I wouldnt care if he took the Millwall job as they are a second rival to me.
BUT he wouldnt take that job as it would be anti his West Ham connections, and Charlton to a lesser extent, plus they are a scumbag club as we all know
If he does get it I am looking forward to the games against them next season already
Would palace fans even want curbs? I doubt it for a few reasons.
Pulis will get the job...which I think is a pretty good thing for them they will have a chance at least of staying up.
Relegation is the only way for palace whoever they bring in though, It's probably a good challenge for a manager as they are not expected to stay in the league regardless.
I for my part have followed Charlton for many years been season ticket holder since'96. But if a head hunter phoned me and said palace wanted a Marketing Director I'd have no qualms about having my cv put forward or working for them.
Hmm. Well I wouldn't do it.
It isn't entirely rational. It would be stretching it to equate this with my old agency's refusal to work on tobacco, BAE or the Tory party, or our current quiet refusal to work on recruitment for tobacco companies out here. But there is a connection. If everything else is equal a marketing person who is really enthusiastic about the 'product' will do a better job than one who is indifferent, or even worse, finds it distasteful
I'd find the idea of marketing Palace stomach-churningly nauseous. They have no heritage, too many of their fans are Johnny-come-lately types, they have nothing in their history, on or off the field, that makes them exceptional.
It's absurd, but I hate the *****, and I'd rather spend a year on the dole than work to help them.
I hope Curbs feels the same way, but I understand it is different for football pros.
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You're opinion is interesting and a bit puzzling to me. To be honest i dont see that many differences between both clubs or their fans. Similar in size, fanbase etc. There are not many clubs around for which you can categorically say 'they have no history'. Maybe MK Dons but not Palace. Ours is just a different history. As for Curbs, i cant see him coming to us, but if he does, it changes nothing about his history with you - and what a good job he did. Nothing can take those memories from you. Particularly May 2005... ;>) - for which btw i'm totally 'over' .. honest.
Ha ha ha, you are avin a bubble 'Ours is a different history'. It sure is, you sad sad bunch, how many more times are you going to try to reinvent yourselves? You are a laughing stock. Strikingly different kit every other year when your true colours were claret and blue stripes in the 60's. Rivals 50 miles away on the coast, black clad Ninja Ultras! do me a favour...... Better still do one and have a nice life, oh and hope you get relegated with a record low points total in the Prem you one season wonders :-)
jeez........the guy has been out of management for about 2 years and if he doesn't get a gig soon will be an outcast along with Hoddle, Southgate etc etc. Who are we to stop him from earning a crust for Christ sake !!
Reverse psychology as I never, or rarely anyway, win bets.
Pulis is 11-8 ON!
Blimey , you can get shorter odds on Man United to win the league!
Next Manager markets are always a bit mental, the bookies are always twitchy about people having insider knowledge. A few more tenners on Curbs, or one person with more money than sense putting a big lump on him and he'll be odds-on in know time.
He's now 16s on Paddy Power (Pulis is 10/11).
Personally, I don't believe Curbishley will manage again. I am very grateful for the effort he put in while here and proud of what he and his teams achieved.
That said, whilst I hold him in high regard, I don't think he held the club or the fans in the same affection as Chris Powell. For that reason, I will hope that Chris goes on to greater success, albeit without the boardroom backing that Curbs had.
Would I be fussed if Curbs went to Palace? I honestly couldn't care less, but I certainly wouldn't wish him well.
I'm sure fishead has seen his club finish 3rd in the top flight and his team reach the FA cup final, numerous promotions and relegations and I can't remember the last time they were in the 3rd tier , so let's not talk shit, it only makes us look stupid And even though he's a palace fan he's not taking the piss out of us Save your angst and anger for the scum they're our real rivals
Noted but disregarded which is my perogative but feel free to keep offering up your pearls of wisdom especially on our crap away support and final position predictions which I shall also disregard if you don't mind.
The question is this: If the job of managing Hell came up, would Jesus be on a cable TV network airing his CV? I think not. Yet, you can see that Jesus might have an interest in that vacancy. Could he turn the place around? Improve it? Yes he could, but, like Curbs, his CV is too good to spoil. Whoever does take that job is going to have a relegation on his or her CV - unless Jesus himself steps forward that is.
I think Curbs position is more complex than people see. He has unfinished business but that is European football and winning things. He is sure he can do it but has never had a proper chance to prove it. He will be no closer to that at Palace. There it is all downside risk and the stress of not being loved by your own supporters. He doesn't need that. He is proud of his record and does not want a major blemish on it. He does not seem to want to uproot the family (understandable) and you can't appoint yourself to a job - you have to be asked. He said (last year I think) that its only the media that hype this up he had actually had no offers in the six or so years he'd been out. (Wolves offer was an insult rather than an offer). He said that in a somewhat baffled way, as I recall, believing with some justification that his track record is better than plenty of upstarts who have been landing PL management contracts.
I don't think he will lower his sights or compromise on his terms and consequently I'll be surprised if he manages again.
I think is a total non-starter. If the palice board have any sense they would realise that he will get no slack from the clowns that support them. Come xmas and they are still getting hammered they will be screaming for his head. However, how enjoyable it would be if Curbs took them over and relegated them, now there is a thought.
jeez........the guy has been out of management for about 2 years and if he doesn't get a gig soon will be an outcast along with Hoddle, Southgate etc etc. Who are we to stop him from earning a crust for Christ sake !!
I despair for some on here.............
Dito
Would this be the same Southgate that is now managing the England U21s?
I for my part have followed Charlton for many years been season ticket holder since'96. But if a head hunter phoned me and said palace wanted a Marketing Director I'd have no qualms about having my cv put forward or working for them.
Hmm. Well I wouldn't do it.
It isn't entirely rational. It would be stretching it to equate this with my old agency's refusal to work on tobacco, BAE or the Tory party, or our current quiet refusal to work on recruitment for tobacco companies out here. But there is a connection. If everything else is equal a marketing person who is really enthusiastic about the 'product' will do a better job than one who is indifferent, or even worse, finds it distasteful
I'd find the idea of marketing Palace stomach-churningly nauseous. They have no heritage, too many of their fans are Johnny-come-lately types, they have nothing in their history, on or off the field, that makes them exceptional.
It's absurd, but I hate the *****, and I'd rather spend a year on the dole than work to help them.
I hope Curbs feels the same way, but I understand it is different for football pros.
PMSL
OK Kap, let me put it differently. You've worked in marketing for Unilever. That's premier League marketing. In marketing terms a Premier League club is League One. Tiny budget, no strategic vision, arguably more of a sales than a marketing job. You could afford to pass it over, because another job would come along, which does not involve potentially harming Charlton. I believe you are not a marketing whore :-)
Noted but disregarded which is my perogative but feel free to keep offering up your pearls of wisdom especially on our crap away support and final position predictions which I shall also disregard if you don't mind.
Ha sorry oohahh but he/she really has your number! This post has made me chuckle.
I understand the truth hurts Redchaser and good luck
The truth has never bothered me but you seriously need to get over your obsession with a drunken encounter with Curbishley, it really is not healthy.
I was obsessed with Curbs well before our one might stand and he never let me down, they say never meet your idols , I say poppycock , although I have since moved on to a new lover, SCP, is the current man of my dreams and long may our blossoming relationship continue #stalker
I understand the truth hurts Redchaser and good luck
The truth has never bothered me but you seriously need to get over your obsession with a drunken encounter with Curbishley, it really is not healthy.
I was obsessed with Curbs well before our one might stand and he never let me down, they say never meet your idols , I say poppycock , although I have since moved on to a new lover, SCP, is the current man of my dreams and long may our blossoming relationship continue #stalker
All's well that ends well. Enjoy the game Sunday :-)
I think it's especially sensitive because of where we were compared to Palace when curbs was in charge and where the two clubs are these days.
I actually do think it would leave a slightly tarnished taste in the mouth, mainly because the most recent events are those most noted. If he were appointed and were to save Palace with the position they are in now, his most momentous achievement to the outside world would be saving them and not the wonders he worked with us. Which would negate our own achievements to those not ingrained in Charlton culture. 'Curbishley? He's the man who raised palace from the dead aint he?'
For him, this is probably his best way back into football management. Get this job and he's back in the consciousness of chairmen. Do I begrudge him? No. Would it disappointment me? Yes.
Luckily I don't think it matters much either way as I can't see him getting it.
To those who wonder how the game has changed since he left - I went to see a carling cup game between Everton and Chelsea a couple of years ago now - it was like watching a different sport to the one we watched in his day. The pace, the skill and the quality on display was something else. Not saying he would be unable to adapt, but the game has moved on since he was involved - which is exactly why Parish is unlikely to give him the job.
Curbishley did a good job and even enjoyed it for a while I think. However he really wasn't ever interested in the supporters. The club was his personal fiefdom and he had the charm and winning smile of a scud on the railways asking for your ticket. There may be those on here who remember him getting the a'ole with us for using club balls and kit when we were playing at Sparrow's Lane. He'll not get a job again certainly not in the prem, poor man's George Graham.
Curbishley did a good job and even enjoyed it for a while I think. However he really wasn't ever interested in the supporters. The club was his personal fiefdom and he had the charm and winning smile of a scud on the railways asking for your ticket. There may be those on here who remember him getting the a'ole with us for using club balls and kit when we were playing at Sparrow's Lane. He'll not get a job again certainly not in the prem, poor man's George Graham.
Whoring, Paul Sturgess says is to "compromise one's principles". Are they Curbs' principles? It seems that Curbs is only compromising the misguided principles of PaulS. Anyways, enough of this thread for me; off to The Maldives for a break.
I think it's especially sensitive because of where we were compared to Palace when curbs was in charge and where the two clubs are these days.
I actually do think it would leave a slightly tarnished taste in the mouth, mainly because the most recent events are those most noted. If he were appointed and were to save Palace with the position they are in now, his most momentous achievement to the outside world would be saving them and not the wonders he worked with us. Which would negate our own achievements to those not ingrained in Charlton culture. 'Curbishley? He's the man who raised palace from the dead aint he?'
For him, this is probably his best way back into football management. Get this job and he's back in the consciousness of chairmen. Do I begrudge him? No. Would it disappointment me? Yes.
Luckily I don't think it matters much either way as I can't see him getting it.
To those who wonder how the game has changed since he left - I went to see a carling cup game between Everton and Chelsea a couple of years ago now - it was like watching a different sport to the one we watched in his day. The pace, the skill and the quality on display was something else. Not saying he would be unable to adapt, but the game has moved on since he was involved - which is exactly why Parish is unlikely to give him the job.
Fair enough but if people would only remember him for (theoretically) keeping Palace up then presumably he's only now remembered for doing the same with WHU and not for his time with us?
Speaking of which he had Tevez in that side playing against the likes of Henry, RVP, Scholes, Cole, Torres, etc, etc so I'd still argue that fundamentally the game's NOT moved on quite as much as you're suggesting in the intervening years. 1998 - probably agree with you, 1988 - almost unrecognisable...
Curbishley did a good job and even enjoyed it for a while I think. However he really wasn't ever interested in the supporters. The club was his personal fiefdom and he had the charm and winning smile of a scud on the railways asking for your ticket. There may be those on here who remember him getting the a'ole with us for using club balls and kit when we were playing at Sparrow's Lane. He'll not get a job again certainly not in the prem, poor man's George Graham.
What a load of poop, granted he wasn't mister personality but he was an excellent Manager who got us to the Premiership, twice, and kept us there for many years. He also did all this on one of the smallest budgets in the Premiership. We can only dream of those days.
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BUT he wouldnt take that job as it would be anti his West Ham connections, and Charlton to a lesser extent, plus they are a scumbag club as we all know
If he does get it I am looking forward to the games against them next season already
Would palace fans even want curbs? I doubt it for a few reasons.
Pulis will get the job...which I think is a pretty good thing for them they will have a chance at least of staying up.
Relegation is the only way for palace whoever they bring in though, It's probably a good challenge for a manager as they are not expected to stay in the league regardless.
No history of ever having a set of bollox in your whole fan base.
maybe he meant that Nige boy
He's now 16s on Paddy Power (Pulis is 10/11).
Personally, I don't believe Curbishley will manage again. I am very grateful for the effort he put in while here and proud of what he and his teams achieved.
That said, whilst I hold him in high regard, I don't think he held the club or the fans in the same affection as Chris Powell. For that reason, I will hope that Chris goes on to greater success, albeit without the boardroom backing that Curbs had.
Would I be fussed if Curbs went to Palace? I honestly couldn't care less, but I certainly wouldn't wish him well.
And even though he's a palace fan he's not taking the piss out of us
Save your angst and anger for the scum they're our real rivals
The question is this: If the job of managing Hell came up, would Jesus be on a cable TV network airing his CV? I think not. Yet, you can see that Jesus might have an interest in that vacancy. Could he turn the place around? Improve it? Yes he could, but, like Curbs, his CV is too good to spoil. Whoever does take that job is going to have a relegation on his or her CV - unless Jesus himself steps forward that is.
I think Curbs position is more complex than people see. He has unfinished business but that is European football and winning things. He is sure he can do it but has never had a proper chance to prove it. He will be no closer to that at Palace. There it is all downside risk and the stress of not being loved by your own supporters. He doesn't need that. He is proud of his record and does not want a major blemish on it. He does not seem to want to uproot the family (understandable) and you can't appoint yourself to a job - you have to be asked. He said (last year I think) that its only the media that hype this up he had actually had no offers in the six or so years he'd been out. (Wolves offer was an insult rather than an offer). He said that in a somewhat baffled way, as I recall, believing with some justification that his track record is better than plenty of upstarts who have been landing PL management contracts.
I don't think he will lower his sights or compromise on his terms and consequently I'll be surprised if he manages again.
Now let me nip down to Paddy Power....
However, how enjoyable it would be if Curbs took them over and relegated them, now there is a thought.
How frustrating are the use of all those stereotypical and cliched abbreviations? Yuk, truly just yuk!
although I have since moved on to a new lover, SCP, is the current man of my dreams and long may our blossoming relationship continue #stalker
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I actually do think it would leave a slightly tarnished taste in the mouth, mainly because the most recent events are those most noted. If he were appointed and were to save Palace with the position they are in now, his most momentous achievement to the outside world would be saving them and not the wonders he worked with us. Which would negate our own achievements to those not ingrained in Charlton culture. 'Curbishley? He's the man who raised palace from the dead aint he?'
For him, this is probably his best way back into football management. Get this job and he's back in the consciousness of chairmen. Do I begrudge him? No. Would it disappointment me? Yes.
Luckily I don't think it matters much either way as I can't see him getting it.
To those who wonder how the game has changed since he left - I went to see a carling cup game between Everton and Chelsea a couple of years ago now - it was like watching a different sport to the one we watched in his day. The pace, the skill and the quality on display was something else. Not saying he would be unable to adapt, but the game has moved on since he was involved - which is exactly why Parish is unlikely to give him the job.
would really rather he didn't
tarnish
There may be those on here who remember him getting the a'ole with us for using club balls and kit when we were playing at Sparrow's Lane. He'll not get a job again certainly not in the prem, poor man's George Graham.
Speaking of which he had Tevez in that side playing against the likes of Henry, RVP, Scholes, Cole, Torres, etc, etc so I'd still argue that fundamentally the game's NOT moved on quite as much as you're suggesting in the intervening years. 1998 - probably agree with you, 1988 - almost unrecognisable...