Must be tough having to do Roland's dirty washing for him. So Jose Riga went out of his way to help us out, because of his good relationship with RD. Really! is this how you treat a friend who has gone out of their way to help you out? Sorry Katrien, you're a nice young lady, but we are not stupid. It sounds very much like we are being prepared for another relegation struggle, when we could have been looking forward to a possible playoff spot under Riga.
Hang on, what do you actually want? 'We hired Bob because we feel he's the best man' or 'we hired Riga and not who we felt was the best candidate because he's a mate'? Time will tell if Bob's the right choice but you don't hire a manager just because he's done you a favour
I just like to see people treated decently, I perceive my club as being a decent club. The Powell decision could be justified based on poor results. The same couldn't be said of Riga, and the fact that she states that Riga also went out of his way to help us out, just makes the decision seem even more nasty and mercenary. Had she said "we couldn't agree terms", I would find that far more acceptable. No, you're right of course he shouldn't be given the job because he was RD's mate (He's not anymore according to his son Greg). He should have been given the job because he fitted in perfectly and did a bloody good job, oh and because he went out of his way to help us out.
It's a football club, not a democracy, RD and co. are saying they did at least consider JR (no reason for them to lie about that) but went with another option. The board made a decision many fans aren't happy about. That is pretty much how every single club in the country is run the last I knew... or did United fans vote in Moyes then Van Gaal? Did Levy hand out ballot cards around Spurs fans before appointing Timmy Sherwood or Pochettino? I seem to remember the last Charlton manager appointed to near-universal acclaim was f***ing Pardew for god's sake, and look how that ended.
Another good point, no one wanted Curbs as full time manager when he was appointed, steve gritt was the preffered option from the fans perspective.
Whilst I'm happy the board have come out with something, it all comes across as lip service designed to appease us for the next period of time. Actions speak louder than words and until we do sign some players to create a 'strong team', I don't really believe this. As for the manage, we'll just have to get behind him and wait and see what he can do. Don't buy the reasoning for choosing Peeters over Riga though.
Why would I need that? Basically we're talking about a football club which has sold it's soul over the past few seasons with not even the benefit of a better life in the short term. Although I will mourn the loss of "my" Charlton I will continue to live a happy life until the day I die. I really don't understand what point you are trying to make and frankly if you believe that the fortunes of a Corporation like that headed by Duchatelet could ever be the reason for ending it all then you are in a far worse place than I could ever be and I advise you to check your own contacts for the Samaritans number ASAP.
Just seen this message from Roland for the readers of Charlton Life.......
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I am truly amazed at the level of cynicism, moaning and defeatism of some of you. It is still May, for Christ's sake. The Board decided on Bob P over a guy who did a fine short-term job for us. They are not stupid, they will have their reasons. They have been pretty clear on the need for extensive player recruitment to augment the strong academy graduate cohort. Why can't we at least wait and see what happens on contracts and player acquisitions over the next month or so before being so damned negative. If we sign a few crap players, be forced into playing youngsters before they are ready, have to rely on sub-standard network reserves, it becomes obvious that Bob is being coerced into playing network players for "the greater good" - then moan all you (and I) like, but at this stage it's just crazy.
So what is it about Peeters that makes him such a catch? As noone on here was involved in the selection process we can't know - it's a results business so judge him on the results. Surely this statement was the ideal opportunity for the board to sell the new manager to us? The Club have just bought BP - why do they need to sell him to us? What does he have that Riga doesn't have? See first answer What is his philosophy? Nitzsche? When will he address the fans? When he's got something to say? And where the hell is Richard Murray in all this? On holiday? This statement is nothing more than lip service in an attempt to appease the rumblings of discontent.
So what is it about Peeters that makes him such a catch? As noone on here was involved in the selection process we can't know - it's a results business so judge him on the results. Surely this statement was the ideal opportunity for the board to sell the new manager to us? The Club have just bought BP - why do they need to sell him to us? What does he have that Riga doesn't have? See first answer What is his philosophy? Nitzsche? When will he address the fans? When he's got something to say?
And where the hell is Richard Murray in all this? On holiday? This statement is nothing more than lip service in an attempt to appease the rumblings of discontent.
I don't know why anybody would dig out Katrien personally for making a statement, or such a statement. If there is a personal aspect to this it is about Katrien showing loyalty towards Roland once decisions are finalised, which makes perfect sense. My only advice regarding statements is that in the future there ought to be a bit more forethought. I have a sense that the Jackson contract was a reaction to the response to Chris Powell leaving, the O'Grady leak on the same day as the Dyer interview as if to counteract stuff, this statement about Bob Bob Bobbin because of all the negative tweets on facebook. It (the overt information we do get) appears to be a bit clumsy, but underneath there is a desire to respond to fans urgent thoughts and feelings which signals to me the right kind of intent. The club do not want to alienate us, but they need to be a bit better in how they share stuff with us. A bit more subtlety, a bit more finesse, a bit more style, a bit more planning could go a long way and the communications network bloke ought to be on it more. We have already had the crossbars mix up, the season ticket mis-directions, the ill advised introduction of the sweat the asset concept. But the free programme and sea of red thing was quite a wholesome and innocent attempt to make a contribution together with the fans. There is no conspiracy to dupe us, but a desire to frame stuff in a positive way but I reckon there is room for improvement in how communications happen.
So what is it about Peeters that makes him such a catch? As noone on here was involved in the selection process we can't know - it's a results business so judge him on the results. Surely this statement was the ideal opportunity for the board to sell the new manager to us? The Club have just bought BP - why do they need to sell him to us? What does he have that Riga doesn't have? See first answer What is his philosophy? Nitzsche? When will he address the fans? When he's got something to say? And where the hell is Richard Murray in all this? On holiday? This statement is nothing more than lip service in an attempt to appease the rumblings of discontent.
Some people's attitudes on hear amaze me - is it conceivable (or would it be, in any way, right) for the club to give a long critique of what they perceive to be JR's failings that meant they did not offer him the job???
People wanted a statement, now they have it and the still moan.
Thank you KM for taking the time to communicate - it has been a while since anyone has done so at this club.
Strange comments. No mention of Bob whatsoever and why he was the best man for the job
What ! Read it again.
Perhaps you should also read it again.
BigRedEvil said there is no mention of why Peeters "was the best man for the job" and there isn't.
She says:
“We looked at all aspects and, with a number of strong candidates, we had a difficult decision to make to choose between them,” continued Meire.
“Of course, all decisions come with an element of risk, but we balanced all the pros and cons and, finally, we came to a conclusion that we would go forward with Bob Peeters".
I don't know why anybody would dig out Katrien personally for making a statement, or such a statement. If there is a personal aspect to this it is about Katrien showing loyalty towards Roland once decisions are finalised, which makes perfect sense. My only advice regarding statements is that in the future there ought to be a bit more forethought. I have a sense that the Jackson contract was a reaction to the response to Chris Powell leaving, the O'Grady leak on the same day as the Dyer interview as if to counteract stuff, this statement about Bob Bob Bobbin because of all the negative tweets on facebook. It (the overt information we do get) appears to be a bit clumsy, but underneath there is a desire to respond to fans urgent thoughts and feelings which signals to me the right kind of intent. The club do not want to alienate us, but they need to be a bit better in how they share stuff with us. A bit more subtlety, a bit more finesse, a bit more style, a bit more planning could go a long way and the communications network bloke ought to be on it more. We have already had the crossbars mix up, the season ticket mis-directions, the ill advised introduction of the sweat the asset concept. But the free programme and sea of red thing was quite a wholesome and innocent attempt to make a contribution together with the fans. There is no conspiracy to dupe us, but a desire to frame stuff in a positive way but I reckon there is room for improvement in how communications happen.
Agree with this Seth. It would be useful if the new network communications supremo is at the proposed meeting between Katrien and fans groups. Good, thoughtful, proactive and timely communications could do a lot to dispel some of the negativity being voiced on here and other social media. He should hear that directly.
Thank god we didnt have Charlton Life and general social media in the 70's and early 80's when we really had something to moan about!Some fans will remember we had some really bad times back then and the only moaning was done on the terraces or in the pub perhaps I'm too much of a traditionalist.I accept that we all want a good team challenging for promotion next season god knows we deserve it but I am prepared to just see what players the board bring in this summer and then make my own judgement.They have already acknowledged that our squad was'nt anywhere good enough last season hence releasing,and not offering contracts to,a large number of very average players.
So what is it about Peeters that makes him such a catch? As noone on here was involved in the selection process we can't know - it's a results business so judge him on the results. Surely this statement was the ideal opportunity for the board to sell the new manager to us? The Club have just bought BP - why do they need to sell him to us? What does he have that Riga doesn't have? See first answer What is his philosophy? Nitzsche? When will he address the fans? When he's got something to say? And where the hell is Richard Murray in all this? On holiday? This statement is nothing more than lip service in an attempt to appease the rumblings of discontent.
So the club issue a statement and the moaners still moan and try to read between the lines and continue to knock the club, shameful. How do the moaners deal with everyday life?
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, say something, hey... hey say something, we want you to say something"
[Insert Official Club Statement straight from Director of football club explaining the situation in detail]
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, that's not what we wanted to hear, say something different, hey... hey say something, say we're going to be in the Premier League, say we're going to buy seven world class strikers (..mumbles about going down)"
Thank you for the official statement to the fans, it is appreciated. Onwards and upwards.
Fail to see how that statement explains anything 'in detail', particularly what is going on now and up until the beginning of the season.
Nor do I see people clamoring for Prem League. Or seven strikers. One would be nice though!
Bit of an inaccurate simplification of the situation to be honest.
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Surely this statement was the ideal opportunity for the board to sell the new manager to us?
What does he have that Riga doesn't have?
What is his philosophy?
When will he address the fans?
And where the hell is Richard Murray in all this?
This statement is nothing more than lip service in an attempt to appease the rumblings of discontent.
The negativity on here is incredible sometimes.
Still not happy.
Not looking forward to August or the whole up coming season.
Can those who are criticising those of us in here who are less than impressed about this statement and it's content explain what they like about it?
Get a life FFS.
Plastic Bertrand - Brussels Institute of Needlework - August 1979
Eddy Wally - Antwerp Miner's Shed - December 1975
Jacques Brel - Liege Dog et Duck - March 1976
Frederic Francois - Oostende Sailors Arms - Apr 1973
OneDirection - Wembley Arena - Jan 2014
My only advice regarding statements is that in the future there ought to be a bit more forethought.
I have a sense that the Jackson contract was a reaction to the response to Chris Powell leaving, the O'Grady leak on the same day as the Dyer interview as if to counteract stuff, this statement about Bob Bob Bobbin because of all the negative tweets on facebook.
It (the overt information we do get) appears to be a bit clumsy, but underneath there is a desire to respond to fans urgent thoughts and feelings which signals to me the right kind of intent. The club do not want to alienate us, but they need to be a bit better in how they share stuff with us. A bit more subtlety, a bit more finesse, a bit more style, a bit more planning could go a long way and the communications network bloke ought to be on it more.
We have already had the crossbars mix up, the season ticket mis-directions, the ill advised introduction of the sweat the asset concept. But the free programme and sea of red thing was quite a wholesome and innocent attempt to make a contribution together with the fans.
There is no conspiracy to dupe us, but a desire to frame stuff in a positive way but I reckon there is room for improvement in how communications happen.
People wanted a statement, now they have it and the still moan.
Thank you KM for taking the time to communicate - it has been a while since anyone has done so at this club.
BigRedEvil said there is no mention of why Peeters "was the best man for the job" and there isn't.
She says:
“We looked at all aspects and, with a number of strong candidates, we had a difficult decision to make to choose between them,” continued Meire.
“Of course, all decisions come with an element of risk, but we balanced all the pros and cons and, finally, we came to a conclusion that we would go forward with Bob Peeters".
How do the moaners deal with everyday life?
Its embarrassing on here sometimes, it really is.
Nor do I see people clamoring for Prem League. Or seven strikers. One would be nice though!
Bit of an inaccurate simplification of the situation to be honest.
Just like this:
"Who's picking the team Bob?"