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Simon Church

Salad
Salad Posts: 10,189
in General Charlton
really glad to see his work rate being rewarded with goals.
Is he worth a new contract?
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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,229
    New contract: Heart says one more year, but Head says no. Find a decent Championship/League one club and start afresh.

    If Church had missed that sitter from Eagles he would have been crucified by the home crowd.
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 839
    shirty5 said:

    New contract: Heart says one more year, but Head says no. Find a decent Championship/League one club and start afresh.

    If Church had missed that sitter from Eagles he would have been crucified by the home crowd.

    You're right. But on watt I saw today, I'd give Church a new deal rather than Eagles.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited March 2015
    If Watt or Igor were injured for a couple of months would you be just as confident of winning games if Church started every game?

    Has done well recently but it's still a no for me. There are plenty of players out there, more so with the network scouting watching players across Europe.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,329
    Piss off Eagles is a very very good player, missed a good chance but played well.Don't forget Church missed a good chance from Buyens pull back.
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    I'd like to keep him for another year but would he want to stay? I doubt it. He's hardly had any game time and isn't exactly a favourite but I feel he offers something. So yes for me, but it all depends on who we are bringing in in the summer. If we're only getting in one more striker, I'd definitely keep Church.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Church is playing better under Luzon than he did under Powell, Riga and Peeters
    maybe Luzon is the guy to get the best out of old Churchinio
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    Eagles is the best signing we have made in years. Give him time
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 839
    northstandsteve said:

    Piss off Eagles is a very very good player, missed a good chance but played well.Don't forget Church missed a good chance from Buyens pull back.

    I'll get me coat then. Except, I thought rather than Church missing the chance it was a good block / save. Eagles had the chance to finish off a great move but missed the target.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Difference with Church now is that we now have a creative set of players for him to feed off and make space for. Someone like Churchy coming off the bench pulling defenders all over the place will free up space for those players we now have to take advantage. Yes I would give him one more year. His last couple of appearances seem to support my view even though I've not seem them personally.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,489
    Depends what we do in the summer, if we only sign one more striker then yeah keep him but if we bring in two there's probably not a place for him here.
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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    Eagles is the best signing we have made in years. Give him time

    Better than Watt, Vetokele and Gudmundsson?
  • BeckenhamAddick
    BeckenhamAddick Posts: 69
    Like lots of people have said it all depends on who we bring in over the summer. Church with the right service is a decent option from the bench to hassle a tiring defence but will never be prolific. Watching pogrebnyak lead the line for reading today we could do with a target man like that to compliment our forward options.
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    Talal said:

    Depends what we do in the summer, if we only sign one more striker then yeah keep him but if we bring in two there's probably not a place for him here.

    Unless those strikers happen to be two Tucudeans
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,489
    DamoNorthStand said:

    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    Eagles is the best signing we have made in years. Give him time

    Better than Watt, Vetokele, Thuram and Gudmundsson?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,371
    No. Two good games don't make up for 30-40+ awful ones. He won't progress us, we're better off allowing Karlan Ahearne Grant to come into the squad as a back up if need be.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Really pleased he's doing well. He's finding form just at the right time to earn a new contract in the unforgiving world of a pro footballer.

    I doubt it will be at Charlton but he'd be a useful player for a newly promoted side or a League One title challenger.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,489
    Addick in SW16 said:

    Talal said:

    Depends what we do in the summer, if we only sign one more striker then yeah keep him but if we bring in two there's probably not a place for him here.

    Unless those strikers happen to be two Tucudeans
    The other Tucudean might be better than George, ala Darren to Marcus Bent...
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    Stick with him for another year. He is a different player with Tony Watt next to him and Luzon getting the best out of him.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    cafctom said:

    No. Two good games don't make up for 30-40+ awful ones. He won't progress us, we're better off allowing Karlan Ahearne Grant to come into the squad as a back up if need be.

    I think that Church playing in the team we had earlier in this season and last was ineffective because he's not ever going to lead the line or hold the ball up. Just look at the dip in form Igor suffered when asked to play a role he's not cut out for. Now Church can be effective from the bench because the players around him allow him to do what he is good at which is channel running and pulling players out of position. You have to look at the bigger picture sometimes.

  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Love the way he has kept his head up and nice to see his hard work being rewarded.
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,371
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    cafctom said:

    No. Two good games don't make up for 30-40+ awful ones. He won't progress us, we're better off allowing Karlan Ahearne Grant to come into the squad as a back up if need be.

    I think that Church playing in the team we had earlier in this season and last was ineffective because he's not ever going to lead the line or hold the ball up. Just look at the dip in form Igor suffered when asked to play a role he's not cut out for. Now Church can be effective from the bench because the players around him allow him to do what he is good at which is channel running and pulling players out of position. You have to look at the bigger picture sometimes.

    The bigger picture involves Charlton trying to challenge for the Playoffs next season and win promotion, I'd like to think.

    Simon Church, for all the will in the world, simply won't contribute enough for that in my opinion.
  • PeakieRocket
    PeakieRocket Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2015
    Forwards need to offer an outlet and that's where Church comes up short for me. He tries hard, but as it showed once Watt came off, we struggled to keep the ball up their end of the pitch, even though they had 10 men.
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    Simon Churchinho will be gone come the end of the season, no question about that, what's the point of keeping a player that rarely plays, as much as I admire his spirit and work-rate he surely needs game time and there will be a few clubs coming in for him at the end of the season when his contract runs out, I wish him the best though and I'll give him a clap if he returns to The Valley in any colour shirt except a certain navy blue.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Under Powell we could have had Ibra upfront and we wouldn't had scored. Our team was so rigid, there was no creativity, and therefore church was never going to get chances.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    I'd give him another year, thought personally that eagles has looked shit. Too busy worrying about his tan
  • SHoare93
    SHoare93 Posts: 169
    I'm your greatest fan,
    I'll follow you around the country,
    Super, Super Churchy
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    The thing with Churchy is he did have that one pretty prolific season at Reading - was it 17 goals or something. It's only one season and it was a while ago but it shows it's in him - the way he took his goal vs Blackpool was a quality finish.

    Sounds like we need someone to compete/cover Watt, i.e. Someone else who can at least hold it up if not run at players like Watt can, but as a fourth choice striker we can probably do worse than Churchy. I'm sure he'd score a few in a team which has creativity and is looking to score - he hasn't scored lots for us but the goals he's got have often been good finishes - and his recent form is hinting at that.
  • Steve_cafc
    Steve_cafc Posts: 32
    People have judged church with his performances under powell, with the hoof ball up to Kermorgant. We didn't have the wide players that we have now.
    The style of football we play now is more suited to church. He will get more chances, he'll get more confident. So yes keep him another season. He's done nothing wrong with his last 3 or 4 appearances.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    He has got a couple of goals of late, which He has deserved and I for one am pleased for him. He gets a lot of stick, and I'm the first to admit I'm a culprit.

    But a new contract?? Please. The best thing for all concerned is just to let him go.
  • jackmasterflash
    jackmasterflash Posts: 569
    I would give him another year. Sign another striker too, who is very quick, like danny Haynes. But he hasn't had a load of chances.

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