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  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    edited May 2015
    Seeing Adam Boulton fronting Sky's election coverage reminds me of one of my favorite moments of the last election.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZKmWdgiAq0&feature=player_detailpage
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Silly woman, everyone knows Poland Day ain't till November
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,782
    edited May 2015
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  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325

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    Now, now Callum, you should know by now that posting pictures, memes, snapshots etc don't count. We need facts man, FACTS!!!!!!
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

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    Now, now Callum, you should know by now that posting pictures, memes, snapshots etc don't count. We need facts man, FACTS!!!!!!
    No, he's got it into his head that bold shouty words, pictures and tick symbols trump facts every time. I've decided he is actually Ed Balls and I claim my ten pounds.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    cafcfan said:

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    Now, now Callum, you should know by now that posting pictures, memes, snapshots etc don't count. We need facts man, FACTS!!!!!!
    No, he's got it into his head that bold shouty words, pictures and tick symbols trump facts every time. I've decided he is actually Ed Balls and I claim my ten pounds.


    Hey, I can't claim to be any better. I posted a dubious picture yesterday instead of spending twenty minutes Googling some real substance.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    I think that stone was quite a clever gimmick - of course it was a gimmick. What is says to me that breaking a promise that has the party leader standing in front of it in this way would be incredibly damaging. Imagine a picture of Nick Clegg standing in front of a no tuition fees promise carved in stone! So I believe more that the promise will be kept. I think that is the psychology and it is sound.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    I think that stone was quite a clever gimmick - of course it was a gimmick. What is says to me that breaking a promise that has the party leader standing in front of it in this way would be incredibly damaging. Imagine a picture of Nick Clegg standing in front of a no tuition fees promise carved in stone! So I believe more that the promise will be kept. I think that is the psychology and it is sound.

    You dead right it was clever, even more so that the "pledges" were all so bland and without any element at all that could not be easily manipulated. "An NHS that has the time to care." What does that mean,for example, more resources or longer hours for the staff? Who knows?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    Yes, that was clever too. The Tories focused on ridiculing the concept rather than the detail. I think they have run a very lacklustre campaign and that is just one aspect of it. They have relied too much on the fear factor which Miliband has handled well with his ruling out of a deal with the SNP. Also their welfare cut policy has been crazy. They have said the amount but not who they will target. So rather than miff of the ones they actually will target, everybody is worried. Cameron decided he didn't like debates so missed important airtime and gave a perception that he was scared to debate one on one. The truth doesn't matter, you have to play the game, make the right judgements and be willing to get your hands dirty.
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  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,938
    I will be really interested to hear what some on hear say if/when Ed is sitting in Downing St either with an SNP coalition or even more dangerously as a minority government with vote by vote support. I would hope lots will be saying 'yep we trusted him, but he turned out to be a dirty lying git, and now we can't change it'.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited May 2015
    They have also allowed Miliband to set the battleground. People who write him off are missing what an able politician he is. I'll say it now at this late stage where the polling closes in a few minutes, but with the upsurge in the economy and the SNP emergence, there is no way he should have a hope of being prime minister. He didn't have a hope of being Labour leader either btw. He set the battle ground two years ago on the recovery that wasn't for everybody. If it was set at this election it would have had less effect, but a lot of people will look at not seeing the benefit in a couple of years and be more inclined to believe it.

    Whether he will be a great leader is to be seen, but he is a remarkable politician and the fact that his opponents don't realise it is even more credit to him. The meeting with Brand, the pledges in Stone, the debate them anywhere stance, the SNP no deal pledge in the biggest tv debate (if that's the right word for it). To the Tories he is like one of those confidence tricksters who mugs you but you don't realise until the next day.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625

    I will be really interested to hear what some on hear say if/when Ed is sitting in Downing St either with an SNP coalition or even more dangerously as a minority government with vote by vote support. I would hope lots will be saying 'yep we trusted him, but he turned out to be a dirty lying git, and now we can't change it'.

    Replace the word Ed with Dave and I'm with you.

  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325

    I will be really interested to hear what some on hear say if/when Ed is sitting in Downing St either with an SNP coalition or even more dangerously as a minority government with vote by vote support. I would hope lots will be saying 'yep we trusted him, but he turned out to be a dirty lying git, and now we can't change it'.


    I said that about Bliar.
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128

    I will be really interested to hear what some on hear say if/when Ed is sitting in Downing St either with an SNP coalition or even more dangerously as a minority government with vote by vote support. I would hope lots will be saying 'yep we trusted him, but he turned out to be a dirty lying git, and now we can't change it'.


    I said that about Bliar.
    Lionel
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Not sure if this has been posted on here yet (I'm 800 messages behind), but found it very interesting. Its the breakdown of which parties represent those towns for the 92 clubs.

    Incredible Labour presence in the Premier League:

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  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    brogib said:

    I will be really interested to hear what some on hear say if/when Ed is sitting in Downing St either with an SNP coalition or even more dangerously as a minority government with vote by vote support. I would hope lots will be saying 'yep we trusted him, but he turned out to be a dirty lying git, and now we can't change it'.


    I said that about Bliar.
    Lionel

    He'd've been better.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    Exit poll looking good for Cameron
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    Bloody Hell. That Exit Poll.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited May 2015
    Exit polls showing Tories to romp home.

    Tories 316
    Labour 239
    SNP 58
    Others 25
    Lib Dems 10
    UKIP 2
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    What's her name on sky looks a bit saucy though
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    What a collaps for Lib Dems
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128

    What's her name on sky looks a bit saucy though

    Nina Hossain ain't looking to shabby on ITV an all
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341

    Exit polls showing Tories to romp home.

    Tories 316
    Labour 239
    SNP 58
    Others 25
    Lib Dems 10
    UKIP 2

    "Romp home"?

    *chuckles*
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Exit poll I place a fair degree of accuracy on, however it is completely at odds of virtually every poll there has been over the last year
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    brogib said:

    What's her name on sky looks a bit saucy though

    Nina Hossain ain't looking to shabby on ITV an all
    Haha yes didn't realise what channel I was on!
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Incredible exit polls if they're remotely accurate. Tories gain seats and Labour loses them, ringing endorsement for Cameron over Miliband.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,985
    How reliable are exit polls? Is a survey of 20,000 people that accurate??
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    Chizz said:

    Exit polls showing Tories to romp home.

    Tories 316
    Labour 239
    SNP 58
    Others 25
    Lib Dems 10
    UKIP 2

    "Romp home"?

    *chuckles*
    So you are not surprised then? I'm amazed how big the difference is.