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  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    My vote goes to The Moody Blues. If the Institue of Chartered Accountants had a house band it would be The Moody Blues. Overblown drivel
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,645
    I suspect this will be controversial, but here we go: David Bowie. Not, I stress, early Bowie. Up until 1983 everything was Hunky Dory. In fact it's hard to find the superlatives strong enough for much of his early work. After that though there's a sharp decline which continued to its nadir with Blackstar. It's critically acclaimed, reached number 1 in over twenty countries and is well loved by muzac ponces everywhere. What an absolutely rotten dirge though. If anyone else had written that stuff, it wouldn't get past the most junior of a&r men, let alone find itself onto the international market. That's what you can do when you're overrated.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,209
    Stig said:

    I suspect this will be controversial, but here we go: David Bowie. Not, I stress, early Bowie. Up until 1983 everything was Hunky Dory. In fact it's hard to find the superlatives strong enough for much of his early work. After that though there's a sharp decline which continued to its nadir with Blackstar. It's critically acclaimed, reached number 1 in over twenty countries and is well loved by muzac ponces everywhere. What an absolutely rotten dirge though. If anyone else had written that stuff, it wouldn't get past the most junior of a&r men, let alone find itself onto the international market. That's what you can do when you're overrated.

    Oi Stig, get back to the dump

    Yeh I sort of know where you are coming from with this.
    I suspect in the long-term that Blackstar (the album) will indeed be seen as overrated by comparison with his best work.
    Without meaning to sound glib, it has been said many times that the best thing a rock star can do for his career is die and I do think that Blackstar got the benefit of an outpouring of posthumous deification of it's creator.
    Having said all of that I disagree that it is any sort of nadir.
    It is in fact another pretty game attempt by Bowie to musically reinvent himself and I for one find it quite an enjoyable listen.
    Too early to judge where it stands in comparison to the rest of his catalogue.
    I do agree he went off the boil during the 80's - I am not even a fan of Let's Dance although I get it's mass appeal.
    The nadir came with Tin Machine.
    I thought Hours was a decent "comeback", Heathen even better and Reality a late period stunner - one of my favourites.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,112
    Outside is an excellent album too.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,125
    edited June 2020
    brogib said:
    The Beatles were/are shit Jimmy mate
    Find a Beatles album. Listen to it. Look at the year it was recorded. Come back to me with anything else made at that time that is better than it in originality. This is the reason they were, and still are, so popular.
    Right, just found one; (1964) The Beatles Second Album and I trump it with The Beach Boys Live in Concert
    I think that you're referring to 'A Hard Day's Night' (1964), The Beatles' third album & 'Concert' by The Beach Boys of the same year.

    Tracklisting

    ‘A Hard Day’s Night’
    ‘I Should Have Known Better’
    ‘If I Fell’
    ‘I’m Happy Just To Dance With You’
    ‘And I Love Her’
    ‘Tell Me Why’
    ‘Can’t Buy Me Love’
    ‘Any Time At All’
    ‘I’ll Cry Instead’
    ‘Things We Said Today’
    ‘When I Get Home’
    ‘You Can’t Do That’
    ‘I’ll Be Back’


    Track listing[edit]

    Side one
    1. "Fun, Fun, Fun" (Brian Wilson/Mike Love) – 2:26
    2. "The Little Old Lady from Pasadena" (Don Altfeld/Jan Berry/Roger Christian) – 3:00
    3. "Little Deuce Coupe" (B. Wilson/Christian) – 2:27
    4. "Long, Tall Texan" (Henry Strezlecki) – 2:32
    5. "In My Room" (B. Wilson/Gary Usher) – 2:25
    6. "Monster Mash" (Boris Pickett/Lenny Capizzi) – 2:27
    7. "Let's Go Trippin'" (Dick Dale) – 2:34
    Side two
    1. "Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow" (Carl White/Al Frazier/Sonny Harris/Turner Wilson Jr.) – 2:18
    2. "The Wanderer" (Ernest Maresca) – 2:00
    3. "Hawaii" (B. Wilson/Love) – 1:51
    4. "Graduation Day" (Joe Sherman/Noel Sherman) – 3:29
    5. "I Get Around" (B. Wilson/Love) – 2:42
    6. "Johnny B. Goode" (Chuck Berry) – 1:56

    Personally I think 'Fun Fun Fun' is a fantastic track. There are three or four other tracks I like on that album.

    The first side of 'A Hard Day's Night features two great love songs in 'If I Fell' and 'And I Love Her'. These alone blow the Beach Boys album out of the water. Things we Said Today is  very underrated. There are three or four other songs I really like that are on a par with the three or four good tracks on The Beach Boys album.

    It's all a matter of opinion of course but I don't agree that 'Concert' makes the grade. Besides it's not a studio album.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,169
    edited June 2020
    Stig said:
    I suspect this will be controversial, but here we go: David Bowie. Not, I stress, early Bowie. Up until 1983 everything was Hunky Dory. In fact it's hard to find the superlatives strong enough for much of his early work. After that though there's a sharp decline which continued to its nadir with Blackstar. It's critically acclaimed, reached number 1 in over twenty countries and is well loved by muzac ponces everywhere. What an absolutely rotten dirge though. If anyone else had written that stuff, it wouldn't get past the most junior of a&r men, let alone find itself onto the international market. That's what you can do when you're overrated.
    Blackstar is a native/red Indian term for someone who knows they are dying, ie, they have seen the blackstar, Elvis’ cowboy song/film flamin star was originally called blackstar, there is a version of him singing the original lyrics available.
    IMO opinion that was Bowie’s reasoning for choice of title (not because of Elvis but the wording)
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,125
    cafctom said:
    We should just state which bands would be James Milner if they were footballers. That should simplify things.
    James Milner would be a middle of the road act like Manic Street Preachers. Has been around longer than people realise, always seen critically as 'good' but never been seen as a major player.
    Bloody hell.  If you think The Manic Street Preachers are middle of the road then you quite simply haven’t been listening to the lyrics. Has there ever been a more politically outspoken group ever?  Their songs’ issues range from The Spanish civil war, the holocaust, anti Royalism, anti consumerism, the Cuban missile crisis, capital punishment, anorexia, prostitution and suicide.

    Saying that they are MOR is like saying Hitler was a sweet, friendly hippie.
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 1,994
    I never understood the hype around Beyoncé and Rihanna!
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,276
    Random thread resurrection #8,333
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,174
    jimmymelrose said:
    cafctom said:
    We should just state which bands would be James Milner if they were footballers. That should simplify things.
    James Milner would be a middle of the road act like Manic Street Preachers. Has been around longer than people realise, always seen critically as 'good' but never been seen as a major player.
    Bloody hell.  If you think The Manic Street Preachers are middle of the road then you quite simply haven’t been listening to the lyrics. Has there ever been a more politically outspoken group ever?  Their songs’ issues range from The Spanish civil war, the holocaust, anti Royalism, anti consumerism, the Cuban missile crisis, capital punishment, anorexia, prostitution and suicide.

    Saying that they are MOR is like saying Hitler was a sweet, friendly hippie.
    But they’re not very good though. 

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,645
    jimmymelrose said:
    cafctom said:
    We should just state which bands would be James Milner if they were footballers. That should simplify things.
    James Milner would be a middle of the road act like Manic Street Preachers. Has been around longer than people realise, always seen critically as 'good' but never been seen as a major player.
    Bloody hell.  If you think The Manic Street Preachers are middle of the road then you quite simply haven’t been listening to the lyrics. Has there ever been a more politically outspoken group ever?  Their songs’ issues range from The Spanish civil war, the holocaust, anti Royalism, anti consumerism, the Cuban missile crisis, capital punishment, anorexia, prostitution and suicide.

    Saying that they are MOR is like saying Hitler was a sweet, friendly hippie.
    I bet they'd love the comparison with Hitler 🫣.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,125
    Off_it said:
    Random thread resurrection #8,333
    It wasn’t random. People were writing comments more suitable for this thread on the overrated songs thread.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,797
    edited April 11
    "Fleetwood Mac"...Bloody Bubblegum reincarnation of one of my all time favourites and original, with Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan, all you bloody hear on the radio is "Go your own way" etc etc etc,  drives me mad!!...🤢
  • Afternoon Delight
    Afternoon Delight Posts: 992
    eastterrace6168 said:
    "Fleetwood Mac"...Bloody Bubblegum reincarnation of one of my all time favourites and original, with Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan, all you bloody hear on the radio is "Go your own way" etc etc etc,  drives me mad!!...🤢
    The Chain is a banger though.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,797
    Afternoon Delight said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    "Fleetwood Mac"...Bloody Bubblegum reincarnation of one of my all time favourites and original, with Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan, all you bloody hear on the radio is "Go your own way" etc etc etc,  drives me mad!!...🤢
    The Chain is a banger though.
    Only for flushing the khazi...😉

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