It will be interesting to see if the prospective newcomers will be announced (though of course NOT officially signed- not open yet, etc etc) once the Gomez deal is done and dusted. One of our top prospects has gone... but hey, we did just sign this German guy you've probably never heard of, so... that's okay, right?
I reckon so. I seem to remember hearing KM said Bulot's wages were a stumbling block. I'm confused as to what happens if we do sign him. Has he basically agreed to take a wage cut to fit our financial parameters, or does he stay on the same wages given it's RD's money anyway and he was paying him at SL
I reckon so. I seem to remember hearing KM said Bulot's wages were a stumbling block. I'm confused as to what happens if we do sign him. Has he basically agreed to take a wage cut to fit our financial parameters, or does he stay on the same wages given it's RD's money anyway and he was paying him at SL
Maybe the Gomez money might loosen the wage budget a bit more to allow the likes of Bulot and other incoming players to sign permanently.
This is what (some) people need to remember when they get angsty about selling the likes of Gomez... it gives us the kind of money we need to offer better contracts to other players and balances the books. It was not that long ago that we'd need to be selling Gomez AND Cousins (probably for less money due to a weaker bargaining position) for the sake of financial survival. RD has made some mistakes for sure but is not an idiot.
Of course, if JC, JG and JBG were all sold for a good price, then I am sure RD will use the money to buy some very good players, and not keep the money or invest it in any of his other clubs. I am sure we can relax and depend on this, can't we? please agree with me, or it is very worrying.
The short answer is that we can't yet be sure. RD will decide how the money is to be allocated across his network of clubs. There's no reason to believe that all player sales income will be ring-fenced to the selling club, nor does it make sense to sell decent Charlton players and replace them with cheap donkeys. But then not everything RD does is logical....Kerm, Polish Pete, Morrison, No Point etc.
I was always told not to worry about things you can't control or influence, so I'm not worrying. Nor am I rushing to renew my ST- I'll wait and see whether we have a competitive squad.
Gentlemen, if one mentions Vetokele to the average football enthusiast in Belgium, chances are that you'll see question marks in their eyes. However, just mention Lepoint, and probably everyone will say "good player". It's clear he didn't add much to the game for you guys, but what was the reason ? So, probably good for everybody that he left Charlton, but please ... give the guy some slack.
Of course, if JC, JG and JBG were all sold for a good price, then I am sure RD will use the money to buy some very good players, and not keep the money or invest it in any of his other clubs. I am sure we can relax and depend on this, can't we? please agree with me, or it is very worrying.
The short answer is that we can't yet be sure. RD will decide how the money is to be allocated across his network of clubs. There's no reason to believe that all player sales income will be ring-fenced to the selling club, nor does it make sense to sell decent Charlton players and replace them with cheap donkeys. But then not everything RD does is logical....Kerm, Polish Pete, Morrison, No Point etc.
I was always told not to worry about things you can't control or influence, so I'm not worrying. Nor am I rushing to renew my ST- I'll wait and see whether we have a competitive squad.
Gentlemen, if one mentions Vetokele to the average football enthusiast in Belgium, chances are that you'll see question marks in their eyes. However, just mention Lepoint, and probably everyone will say "good player". It's clear he didn't add much to the game for you guys, but what was the reason ? So, probably good for everybody that he left Charlton, but please ... give the guy some slack.
It's not true that he didn't add much to our game. He added a comedic value.
The reason people are so concerned is because Joe Gomez is so good, and a player who comes round once in a generation. I have watched a lot of youth football over the years, ours and other players, and remember seeing a young Sol Campbell for Tottenham. Campbell was so outstandingly good in those days, at 17 he looked a certainty, as it proved to be. Our equivalent, Richard Rufus had a similar presence, and from what I have seen of Joe Gomez it is the same. It is an aching shame that we will lose him, but if we have to then it ought to be for a fee that reflects his rare worth. I am confused by the release clause aspect of things, but anyway I want him to stay, however the deal ought to be our best ever transfer out, certainly more than the money for Parker.
The reason people are so concerned is because Joe Gomez is so good, and a player who comes round once in a generation. I have watched a lot of youth football over the years, ours and other players, and remember seeing a young Sol Campbell for Tottenham. Campbell was so outstandingly good in those days, at 17 he looked a certainty, as it proved to be. Our equivalent, Richard Rufus had a similar presence, and from what I have seen of Joe Gomez it is the same. It is an aching shame that we will lose him, but if we have to then it ought to be for a fee that reflects his rare worth. I am confused by the release clause aspect of things, but anyway I want him to stay, however the deal ought to be our best ever transfer out, certainly more than the money for Parker.
Won't be more than Parker or Bent not until he's sold and we get a percentage of that, assuming there is a sell on fee.
- Enjoy Gomez for one more year but be forced to sell next summer (1 year left on his contract) - for virtually sod all
- Sell him now while he has 2 years left on his deal, loads of clubs are keen and we get the best part of £10 million.
For the people moaning that we 'always let our young players go' - newsflash - players like Gomez will always leave at some point. It's how you manage that for your best interests that is key. The club protected their asset with a contract, and sold at the right time for maximum return - job done.
Of course, if JC, JG and JBG were all sold for a good price, then I am sure RD will use the money to buy some very good players, and not keep the money or invest it in any of his other clubs. I am sure we can relax and depend on this, can't we? please agree with me, or it is very worrying.
The short answer is that we can't yet be sure. RD will decide how the money is to be allocated across his network of clubs. There's no reason to believe that all player sales income will be ring-fenced to the selling club, nor does it make sense to sell decent Charlton players and replace them with cheap donkeys. But then not everything RD does is logical....Kerm, Polish Pete, Morrison, No Point etc.
I was always told not to worry about things you can't control or influence, so I'm not worrying. Nor am I rushing to renew my ST- I'll wait and see whether we have a competitive squad.
Gentlemen, if one mentions Vetokele to the average football enthusiast in Belgium, chances are that you'll see question marks in their eyes. However, just mention Lepoint, and probably everyone will say "good player". It's clear he didn't add much to the game for you guys, but what was the reason ? So, probably good for everybody that he left Charlton, but please ... give the guy some slack.
No touch, no mobility, no positional sense, no passing ability. What do you suggest are the reasons for him not succeeding?
FYI, I don't recall anyone getting on his back (although I didn't go to Cardiff away). Most of us question why he was brought in in the first place.
I'm not some Saturdays I have to piss about swapping shifts at work or losing money so I don't really fancy doing that to watch us get rolled over every week
Of course, if JC, JG and JBG were all sold for a good price, then I am sure RD will use the money to buy some very good players, and not keep the money or invest it in any of his other clubs. I am sure we can relax and depend on this, can't we? please agree with me, or it is very worrying.
The short answer is that we can't yet be sure. RD will decide how the money is to be allocated across his network of clubs. There's no reason to believe that all player sales income will be ring-fenced to the selling club, nor does it make sense to sell decent Charlton players and replace them with cheap donkeys. But then not everything RD does is logical....Kerm, Polish Pete, Morrison, No Point etc.
I was always told not to worry about things you can't control or influence, so I'm not worrying. Nor am I rushing to renew my ST- I'll wait and see whether we have a competitive squad.
Gentlemen, if one mentions Vetokele to the average football enthusiast in Belgium, chances are that you'll see question marks in their eyes. However, just mention Lepoint, and probably everyone will say "good player". It's clear he didn't add much to the game for you guys, but what was the reason ? So, probably good for everybody that he left Charlton, but please ... give the guy some slack.
It seems his main strengths are his physical prowess and athleticism... but most decent players at this level have those but also greater technique than Lepoint ever demonstrated on these shores. I don't want to generalise about the relative levels of the two leagues but Lepoint just never showed the kind of finesse and skill that it takes to really stand out, more of a bruiser than anything and there's plenty of those around, he never stood out.
In fairness it may at least in part be to his ending up being played up front quite a lot due to our total lack of target man forwards, which probably doesn't suit his strengths.
Random rumour, was out with a spurs pal last night and he seemed pretty sure we were going to get Dele Alli on a season long loan. Would be a cracking signing if any truth.
Not a rumour for us but something that made me laugh. Palace looking at Iker Casillas. Palace friend of mine said "we don't need him we have Wayne Hennessey"......... Really?????
Give it a rest now with the whole Gomez thing the boy wants to play in the premier league and we need the money to invest in New players . All you people moaning about rd and him selling our young players need to remember before he come we was in financial ruin and the youth team was a mess he has come in and invested a huge amount in both the team and youth team and for that we are seeing kids like Gomez come through .One thing we don't know and Weird someone is trying to compare joe Gomez to sol Campbell the boy has not played one game of premiership football he will struggle to get in Liverpools team but it's what he wants so why shouldn't rd sell him.
There is a saying that you can’t miss what you haven’t had. Well we haven’t had the best of Gomez so in a footballing sense we won’t miss him as much as we would Cousins or JBG. But it is a shame we can’t see a top top player grow over a couple of seasons before he goes. The reason big clubs were so keen to get him is that it is pretty clear he is going to be some player. As long as we get a decent price and improve the squad, it could be a good thing. I see Doctor Kish is suggesting that we might purposely want to play down the extent of the deal, as might Liverpool. It may just be his personal theory, but I hope it is the case. Another way at looking at it is £10m in Roland’s back pocket isn’t as good as £3.5m spent on improving the team. What we do to strengthen is going to be the thing that keeps us happy or tips us over the edge.
We showed pretty clearly last season that there is an edge. Hopefully, we won’t be sailing too close to it in future. The coming day/weeks will tell us a lot.
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He keeps improving. I really hope he stays and when he does eventually play in the PL it is with us.
It's almost as if CAFC are using the SLP to get some positive news on transfer and the Gomez fee out there : - )
It is an aching shame that we will lose him, but if we have to then it ought to be for a fee that reflects his rare worth.
I am confused by the release clause aspect of things, but anyway I want him to stay, however the deal ought to be our best ever transfer out, certainly more than the money for Parker.
Maybe worth a punt in that forward looking Midfield type role us fans are looking for?
Seems to release clause story was false anyway.
- Enjoy Gomez for one more year but be forced to sell next summer (1 year left on his contract) - for virtually sod all
- Sell him now while he has 2 years left on his deal, loads of clubs are keen and we get the best part of £10 million.
For the people moaning that we 'always let our young players go' - newsflash - players like Gomez will always leave at some point. It's how you manage that for your best interests that is key. The club protected their asset with a contract, and sold at the right time for maximum return - job done.
FYI, I don't recall anyone getting on his back (although I didn't go to Cardiff away). Most of us question why he was brought in in the first place.
In fairness it may at least in part be to his ending up being played up front quite a lot due to our total lack of target man forwards, which probably doesn't suit his strengths.
We showed pretty clearly last season that there is an edge. Hopefully, we won’t be sailing too close to it in future. The coming day/weeks will tell us a lot.