So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So you think being entertained is more important then promoting equality?
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So you think being entertained is more important then promoting equality?
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
No I don't mean those sports.
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
No I wouldn't argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda. Nice try, to put words in my mouth though. Why do people debate like the way you have, make assumptions based on their opinions to try and reinforce their argument? Like I answered above, I didn't mean these sports
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
But if they showed Hockey at the top level, then more people would play it.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
No, not at all, but I don't want to watch it because its not very good, the same reason I dont want to watch a bunch of fat blokes wobble round a pitch on a sunday morning.
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
As I responded to Leuth - Lifes not fair, never has been, never will be, and as soon as so called intellectuals understand that fact, then we can all go about our business without the whipped liberals of this world questioning our opinions on equality. Men are less equal to women in many many ways, but we just get on with it (well most do)
And finally equality should have nothing to do with football, but unfortunately it appears the only reason that the BEEB are spending money on Womens Football must be about trying to equalise the sexes. Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So you think being entertained is more important then promoting equality?
When i watch TV yes!!!!!!!!!!
So a young girl seeing womens football on TV for the first time, and perhaps realizing for the first time ever that football isnt a sport exclusively played by men, and perhaps she could aspire to play in the womens world cup one day is unimportant if it gets in the way of a cracking episode of Eastenders....
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So you think being entertained is more important then promoting equality?
When i watch TV yes!!!!!!!!!!
So a young girl seeing womens football on TV for the first time, and perhaps realizing for the first time ever that football isnt a sport exclusively played by men, and perhaps she could aspire to play in the womens world cup one day is unimportant if it gets in the way of a cracking episode of Eastenders....
Television is for entertainment!
If a girl wants to get into football, there are plenty of clubs that advertise on social media, in schools etc. If a girl thinks that football is exclusively for men then id be more concerned by what their PE Teacher and parents are telling them, not what they are or aren't watching on TV.
Do you say the same for other sports, both female and male, that don't attract the coverage this tournament has? 'How will my son/daughter know if they could become the next Luol Deng when the BBC doesn't show any basketball!!!'
Maybe the BBC decided to invest as they thought people might even be interested in watching it?
From the Guardian:
England’s 1-0 defeat by France in the women’s football World Cup was a ratings hit for BBC2 with a peak audience of more than 2 million viewers, nearly double the highest audience for the women’s Euros two years ago.
Match of the Day Live had an average of 1.5 million viewers, a 9.1% share of the audience from 5.30pm on Tuesday.
It had a five-minute peak of 2.4 million, more than a million ahead of the 1.3 million high for the BBC’s coverage of the European Championships two years ago, for Germany’s 1-0 win over Norway in the final and England’s opening 3-2 defeat by Spain.
The World Cup has also been pulling in more than half a million viewers on BBC3.
The channel’s coverage of Germany’s 10-0 demolition of Ivory Coast on Sunday had 523,000 viewers, a 2.8% share, and a five-minute peak of 693,000.
Canada’s 1-0 win over China in the tournament opener on Saturday had 400,000 viewers (4.8%) from 10.35pm with a peak of 563,000.
And it continues in other markets...
The USA v Australia game got 3.3 million viewers in the US despite being shown only on a cable channel (Fox Sports 1)
1.8 million Canadians tuned in to watch the opener vs China. The estimated audience in China was 2.3 million.
From the Hollywood Reporter: "The Women's World Cup was a wise investment for Fox Sports 1. The fledgling cable sports net, riding a wave of increased stateside interest in soccer, aired America's most-watched Group Stage match ever on Monday night.
The 3.3 million viewers tuning in to see Team U.S. beat Australia tripled the score that the comparable game brought in back in 2011. (And the Central Time Zone of the game's host city, Winnipeg, certainly didn't hurt.) The game topped the previous game one record set back in 1999 when America beat Denmark for a TV crowd of 2.5 million viewers.
All in all, Fox Sports 1's coverage is off to a solid start. The first eight matches have averaged more than 1 million viewers, up from the 600,000 that watched the start of the 2011 Women's World Cup."
Some people are entertained by it. They haven’t spent millions- it is probably pretty cheap TV for them. If you don’t want to watch it, there are lots of other channels. A lot of the matches are on red button or online anyway!
Maybe the BBC decided to invest as they thought people might even be interested in watching it?
From the Guardian:
England’s 1-0 defeat by France in the women’s football World Cup was a ratings hit for BBC2 with a peak audience of more than 2 million viewers, nearly double the highest audience for the women’s Euros two years ago.
Match of the Day Live had an average of 1.5 million viewers, a 9.1% share of the audience from 5.30pm on Tuesday.
It had a five-minute peak of 2.4 million, more than a million ahead of the 1.3 million high for the BBC’s coverage of the European Championships two years ago, for Germany’s 1-0 win over Norway in the final and England’s opening 3-2 defeat by Spain.
The World Cup has also been pulling in more than half a million viewers on BBC3.
The channel’s coverage of Germany’s 10-0 demolition of Ivory Coast on Sunday had 523,000 viewers, a 2.8% share, and a five-minute peak of 693,000.
Canada’s 1-0 win over China in the tournament opener on Saturday had 400,000 viewers (4.8%) from 10.35pm with a peak of 563,000.
And it continues in other markets...
The USA v Australia game got 3.3 million viewers in the US despite being shown only on a cable channel (Fox Sports 1)
1.8 million Canadians tuned in to watch the opener vs China. The estimated audience in China was 2.3 million.
From the Hollywood Reporter: "The Women's World Cup was a wise investment for Fox Sports 1. The fledgling cable sports net, riding a wave of increased stateside interest in soccer, aired America's most-watched Group Stage match ever on Monday night.
The 3.3 million viewers tuning in to see Team U.S. beat Australia tripled the score that the comparable game brought in back in 2011. (And the Central Time Zone of the game's host city, Winnipeg, certainly didn't hurt.) The game topped the previous game one record set back in 1999 when America beat Denmark for a TV crowd of 2.5 million viewers.
All in all, Fox Sports 1's coverage is off to a solid start. The first eight matches have averaged more than 1 million viewers, up from the 600,000 that watched the start of the 2011 Women's World Cup."
Blah, Blah...stat...blah...stat.... millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Some people are entertained by it. They haven’t spent millions- it is probably pretty cheap TV for them. If you don’t want to watch it, there are lots of other channels. A lot of the matches are on red button or online anyway!
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So you think being entertained is more important then promoting equality?
When i watch TV yes!!!!!!!!!!
So a young girl seeing womens football on TV for the first time, and perhaps realizing for the first time ever that football isnt a sport exclusively played by men, and perhaps she could aspire to play in the womens world cup one day is unimportant if it gets in the way of a cracking episode of Eastenders....
Television is for entertainment!
If a girl wants to get into football, there are plenty of clubs that advertise on social media, in schools etc. If a girl thinks that football is exclusively for men then id be more concerned by what their PE Teacher and parents are telling them, not what they are or aren't watching on TV.
Do you say the same for other sports, both female and male, that don't attract the coverage this tournament has? 'How will my son/daughter know if they could become the next Luol Deng when the BBC doesn't show any basketball!!!'
It could be because basketball isnt even in the Top 10 most popular sports in the uk bbc.co.uk/sport/0/22806853
Football on other is, so its it that much of a stretch for them to show women playing it?
Could it be the massive fee the NBA would demand to show NBA on free to air TV, a fee so big even Sky gave up showing it??
Hey they could show the BBL I guess? But the quality of that league is far below that of the NBA so it couldnt be classed as entertainment then, and you wouldnt want that right?
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
Blah, Blah...stat...blah...stat.... millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Sorry lets not have facts cloud our judgement.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
It just says a lot for the BBC now, that they place agenda's like equality, ahead of actual entertainment.
So you think being entertained is more important then promoting equality?
When i watch TV yes!!!!!!!!!!
So a young girl seeing womens football on TV for the first time, and perhaps realizing for the first time ever that football isnt a sport exclusively played by men, and perhaps she could aspire to play in the womens world cup one day is unimportant if it gets in the way of a cracking episode of Eastenders....
Television is for entertainment!
If a girl wants to get into football, there are plenty of clubs that advertise on social media, in schools etc. If a girl thinks that football is exclusively for men then id be more concerned by what their PE Teacher and parents are telling them, not what they are or aren't watching on TV.
Do you say the same for other sports, both female and male, that don't attract the coverage this tournament has? 'How will my son/daughter know if they could become the next Luol Deng when the BBC doesn't show any basketball!!!'
It could be because basketball isnt even in the Top 10 most popular sports in the uk bbc.co.uk/sport/0/22806853
Football on other is, so its it that much of a stretch for them to show women playing it?
Could it be the massive fee the NBA would demand to show NBA on free to air TV, a fee so big even Sky gave up showing it??
Hey they could show the BBL I guess? But the quality of that league is far below that of the NBA so it couldnt be classed as entertainment then, and you wouldnt want that right?
And therefore once again it comes down to the BBC's agenda rather than actual entertainment, which was the original point i made, and why i understand why some people have got the hump.
The average attendance of a women's Premier League game last season. 728. Thats popularity for you!
The second point....you've just answered the question for me!
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
No, the time would of been saved if we agreed that its perfectly reasonable and valid for the womens world cup to shown on telly, and an equality agenda is a good thing. Our own CEO would probably agree.
Blah, Blah...stat...blah...stat.... millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Sorry lets not have facts cloud our judgement.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
Hello, all of a sudden you've turned into a comedy genius....I cant stop laughing.
No judgement clouded, you quoted stats and I quoted a fact. But just so you understand, I don't have a problem with the Womens WC, just that its on our national TV channel and costing US money when more deserving sports would benefit.
Blah, Blah...stat...blah...stat.... millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Sorry lets not have facts cloud our judgement.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
Hello, all of a sudden you've turned into a comedy genius....I cant stop laughing.
No judgement clouded, you quoted stats and I quoted a fact. But just so you understand, I don't have a problem with the Womens WC, just that its on our national TV channel and costing US money when more deserving sports would benefit.
In your opinion what sport is 'more deserving' and should receive more air time on our National TV channel?
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
No, the time would of been saved if we agreed that its perfectly reasonable and valid for the womens world cup to shown on telly, and an equality agenda is a good thing. Our own CEO would probably agree.
Er...but its not and its bloody insulting to women that the only reason its on the BBC is because they are women.
Dan, I think some sports that we did well in London 2012 that seemed to have been dumped by both the BBC and The government are more deserving (so much for the 'Olympic legacy') of the attention and promotion that seems to have gone into this women's world cup.
Events like swimming, cycling (including BMX), martial arts, boxing, rowing, athletics (the diamond league meetings have been on recently, wouldn't have known if I didn't stumble on it by accident)..all sports that while they aren't as strong/quick as the men, the difference is not as major and therefore keeps its entertainment value more (unlike sports such as football and rugby).
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
No, the time would of been saved if we agreed that its perfectly reasonable and valid for the womens world cup to shown on telly, and an equality agenda is a good thing. Our own CEO would probably agree.
Er...but its not and its bloody insulting to women that the only reason its on the BBC is because they are women.
Greenie any chance we can get you to provide commentary on Charlton womens team games? Your insight and deep level of understanding of the world of womens football would make for great listening.
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
No, the time would of been saved if we agreed that its perfectly reasonable and valid for the womens world cup to shown on telly, and an equality agenda is a good thing. Our own CEO would probably agree.
Er...but its not and its bloody insulting to women that the only reason its on the BBC is because they are women.
Greenie any chance we can get you to provide commentary on Charlton womens team games? Your insight and deep level of understanding of the world of womens football would make for great listening.
Dan, I think some sports that we did well in London 2012 that seemed to have been dumped by both the BBC and The government are more deserving (so much for the 'Olympic legacy') of the attention and promotion that seems to have gone into this women's world cup.
Events like swimming, cycling (including BMX), martial arts, boxing, rowing, athletics (the diamond league meetings have been on recently, wouldn't have known if I didn't stumble on it by accident)..all sports that while they aren't as strong/quick as the men, the difference is not as major and therefore keeps its entertainment value more (unlike sports such as football and rugby).
Yes would agree with all of them VG. Would also add Motorcycle Racing, World SuperBikes, MotoGP - We have World Champions in some these sports and no one knows about it. FWIW in Racing women race with the men, and do a bloody good job at national level.
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
No, the time would of been saved if we agreed that its perfectly reasonable and valid for the womens world cup to shown on telly, and an equality agenda is a good thing. Our own CEO would probably agree.
Er...but its not and its bloody insulting to women that the only reason its on the BBC is because they are women.
Greenie any chance we can get you to provide commentary on Charlton womens team games? Your insight and deep level of understanding of the world of womens football would make for great listening.
More comedy gold, you should write for Ricky Gervais. Very Funny.
Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
The Kent metropolitan hangover whatever league isnt the pinnacle of mens football, therefore it isn't shown. The womens world cup on the other hand, is.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
So we could have saved ourselves sometime and you could have agreed with me when I said that the only reason the BEEB sound money on it, is for equality reasons. Brilliant.
No, the time would of been saved if we agreed that its perfectly reasonable and valid for the womens world cup to shown on telly, and an equality agenda is a good thing. Our own CEO would probably agree.
Er...but its not and its bloody insulting to women that the only reason its on the BBC is because they are women.
Greenie any chance we can get you to provide commentary on Charlton womens team games? Your insight and deep level of understanding of the world of womens football would make for great listening.
More comedy gold, you should write for Ricky Gervais. Very Funny.
Maybe Ill write a comedy show that features only women, should be possible with the BBC equality agenda an that.
Dan, I think some sports that we did well in London 2012 that seemed to have been dumped by both the BBC and The government are more deserving (so much for the 'Olympic legacy') of the attention and promotion that seems to have gone into this women's world cup.
Events like swimming, cycling (including BMX), martial arts, boxing, rowing, athletics (the diamond league meetings have been on recently, wouldn't have known if I didn't stumble on it by accident)..all sports that while they aren't as strong/quick as the men, the difference is not as major and therefore keeps its entertainment value more (unlike sports such as football and rugby).
I see what you are saying Gary but they have to strike a balance between 'deserving' and whether or not people would actually watch. I don't believe for a second the World Swimming Championships would pull in anything like half a million viewers on BBC3. BMX would be lucky to get 100k. Who cares if they are the best BMX'ers in the world? Folks in the UK would rather watch football...any football.
You can't deny that Womens Football is growing quickly in popularity. I think the BBC had every right to go bigger on it this time (and remember the majority is tucked away on BBC3 and late night BBC2...its not as though they are cancelling Eastenders and sticking it all over prime time BBC1)
And Womens football also played a big part of London 2012 remember. Over 600,000 people attended the various games.
Theres also a Womens World Cup sticker album. The BBC throw away tens of millions getting this tournament on telly, and now Panini are peddling their own bloody equality agenda too!
BTW when it comes to swapsies, are mens stickers worth 2 womens ones, considering the gulf in class an that??
Actually screw that, collecting womens world cup stickers isnt as entertaining as the mens ones....
Dan, I think some sports that we did well in London 2012 that seemed to have been dumped by both the BBC and The government are more deserving (so much for the 'Olympic legacy') of the attention and promotion that seems to have gone into this women's world cup.
Events like swimming, cycling (including BMX), martial arts, boxing, rowing, athletics (the diamond league meetings have been on recently, wouldn't have known if I didn't stumble on it by accident)..all sports that while they aren't as strong/quick as the men, the difference is not as major and therefore keeps its entertainment value more (unlike sports such as football and rugby).
I see what you are saying Gary but they have to strike a balance between 'deserving' and whether or not people would actually watch. I don't believe for a second the World Swimming Championships would pull in anything like half a million viewers on BBC3. BMX would be lucky to get 100k. Who cares if they are the best BMX'ers in the world? Folks in the UK would rather watch football...any football.
You can't deny that Womens Football is growing quickly in popularity. I think the BBC had every right to go bigger on it this time (and remember the majority is tucked away on BBC3 and late night BBC2...its not as though they are cancelling Eastenders and sticking it all over prime time BBC1)
And Womens football also played a big part of London 2012 remember. Over 600,000 people attended the various games.
You are correct...many people will just watch football because it's football and that's an easy way for the BBC to justify its agenda with viewing figures. When its over, the game will still attract less than 1000 people at its top level in this country. Personally, I'm one of the biggest football fans you will ever meet and I really struggle with watching it. I would genuinely rather watch women's swimming or cycling than women's football. Change that to men and obviously it would be no competition.
As I said, horse racing is a hugely popular sport in this country and one that's heavily influenced by females. The BBC just gave that up pretty easily.
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And finally equality should have nothing to do with football, but unfortunately it appears the only reason that the BEEB are spending money on Womens Football must be about trying to equalise the sexes. Imagine if they had spent the same amount showing the Kent Metropolitan Hangover Sunday League for a whole season, everyone would be going mental.
Ergo, its on the telly to represent the highest level of womens football for people to watch.
Its part of the BBCs equality agenda.
If a girl wants to get into football, there are plenty of clubs that advertise on social media, in schools etc. If a girl thinks that football is exclusively for men then id be more concerned by what their PE Teacher and parents are telling them, not what they are or aren't watching on TV.
Do you say the same for other sports, both female and male, that don't attract the coverage this tournament has? 'How will my son/daughter know if they could become the next Luol Deng when the BBC doesn't show any basketball!!!'
From the Guardian:
England’s 1-0 defeat by France in the women’s football World Cup was a ratings hit for BBC2 with a peak audience of more than 2 million viewers, nearly double the highest audience for the women’s Euros two years ago.
Match of the Day Live had an average of 1.5 million viewers, a 9.1% share of the audience from 5.30pm on Tuesday.
It had a five-minute peak of 2.4 million, more than a million ahead of the 1.3 million high for the BBC’s coverage of the European Championships two years ago, for Germany’s 1-0 win over Norway in the final and England’s opening 3-2 defeat by Spain.
The World Cup has also been pulling in more than half a million viewers on BBC3.
The channel’s coverage of Germany’s 10-0 demolition of Ivory Coast on Sunday had 523,000 viewers, a 2.8% share, and a five-minute peak of 693,000.
Canada’s 1-0 win over China in the tournament opener on Saturday had 400,000 viewers (4.8%) from 10.35pm with a peak of 563,000.
And it continues in other markets...
The USA v Australia game got 3.3 million viewers in the US despite being shown only on a cable channel (Fox Sports 1)
1.8 million Canadians tuned in to watch the opener vs China. The estimated audience in China was 2.3 million.
From the Hollywood Reporter:
"The Women's World Cup was a wise investment for Fox Sports 1. The fledgling cable sports net, riding a wave of increased stateside interest in soccer, aired America's most-watched Group Stage match ever on Monday night.
The 3.3 million viewers tuning in to see Team U.S. beat Australia tripled the score that the comparable game brought in back in 2011. (And the Central Time Zone of the game's host city, Winnipeg, certainly didn't hurt.) The game topped the previous game one record set back in 1999 when America beat Denmark for a TV crowd of 2.5 million viewers.
All in all, Fox Sports 1's coverage is off to a solid start. The first eight matches have averaged more than 1 million viewers, up from the 600,000 that watched the start of the 2011 Women's World Cup."
millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Football on other is, so its it that much of a stretch for them to show women playing it?
Could it be the massive fee the NBA would demand to show NBA on free to air TV, a fee so big even Sky gave up showing it??
Hey they could show the BBL I guess? But the quality of that league is far below that of the NBA so it couldnt be classed as entertainment then, and you wouldnt want that right?
Blah, Blah...stat...blah...stat....
millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Sorry lets not have facts cloud our judgement.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
The average attendance of a women's Premier League game last season. 728. Thats popularity for you!
The second point....you've just answered the question for me!
millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Sorry lets not have facts cloud our judgement.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
Hello, all of a sudden you've turned into a comedy genius....I cant stop laughing.
No judgement clouded, you quoted stats and I quoted a fact.
But just so you understand, I don't have a problem with the Womens WC, just that its on our national TV channel and costing US money when more deserving sports would benefit.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
Hello, all of a sudden you've turned into a comedy genius....I cant stop laughing.
No judgement clouded, you quoted stats and I quoted a fact.
But just so you understand, I don't have a problem with the Womens WC, just that its on our national TV channel and costing US money when more deserving sports would benefit.
In your opinion what sport is 'more deserving' and should receive more air time on our National TV channel?
Events like swimming, cycling (including BMX), martial arts, boxing, rowing, athletics (the diamond league meetings have been on recently, wouldn't have known if I didn't stumble on it by accident)..all sports that while they aren't as strong/quick as the men, the difference is not as major and therefore keeps its entertainment value more (unlike sports such as football and rugby).
Would also add Motorcycle Racing, World SuperBikes, MotoGP - We have World Champions in some these sports and no one knows about it. FWIW in Racing women race with the men, and do a bloody good job at national level.
Ill try and make it entertaining.
You can't deny that Womens Football is growing quickly in popularity. I think the BBC had every right to go bigger on it this time (and remember the majority is tucked away on BBC3 and late night BBC2...its not as though they are cancelling Eastenders and sticking it all over prime time BBC1)
And Womens football also played a big part of London 2012 remember. Over 600,000 people attended the various games.
BTW when it comes to swapsies, are mens stickers worth 2 womens ones, considering the gulf in class an that??
Actually screw that, collecting womens world cup stickers isnt as entertaining as the mens ones....
As I said, horse racing is a hugely popular sport in this country and one that's heavily influenced by females. The BBC just gave that up pretty easily.