As said by Rachel on the beeb, Great tactics by the Norwegian Coach to push the defense forward plus bringing on one of their best players for 2nd Half, the closing down was textbook.
Regardless of the standard of football the games feel very flat. Watching the Germany v Norway game i can hear all the players and absolutely nothing from the crowd.
An anouncement was made, via the tannoy to keep the noise down because the German keeper "Had a headache"
Why though Len? We're in such a minority on here our opinion I don't feel is reflective at all. I keep getting drawn to this thread as I think there might be updates on results or action from the games but sadly it's the same people reiterating their opinions over and over that push it up the page.
I personally have only seen 10 mins of one game so far. I have been looking up the final scores and fixtures so far though and hope to catch a game or at least more of one soon.
cant wait till the 10th anniversary Charlton life pitch hire to witness all the talent spoken about in this thread. Perhaps we should invite the CAFC or even England's women's team along for a friendly for charity......
Regardless of the standard of football the games feel very flat. Watching the Germany v Norway game i can hear all the players and absolutely nothing from the crowd.
Yeah I think there are not that many people who travel this kind of distance for women's football, sadly. That and the fact the early games are on when most people are at work. The 2011 World Cup had large crowds iirc.
Regardless of the standard of football the games feel very flat. Watching the Germany v Norway game i can hear all the players and absolutely nothing from the crowd.
Canadian sports crowds for you to an extent - my experience of the hockey has been much the same. You get a bit more racket at a CFL game but not much in the way of organised chanting. They basically have only one song for all sports "let's go [insert team name]!" and any atmosphere that does get generated gets drowned out by the thousand decibel shit-pop they blast at you at every opportunity.
It was a bit better at the opening game with Canada (was bloody loud when they scored) and there are a hardy few trying to get a singing section going at the NASL games I go to but it is a very different attitude to watching sports live here - a lot of people spend 50% of it in the concourse munching on hot dogs. It treated more like watching at home on a really big telly.
Another shocker for the ref - another ridiculously soft penalty given, this time against Canada and to add insult to injury she booked the wrong player as well.
Great result for the Thai ladies team, known as the War Elephants here, this morning. Lots of interest amongst my Thai friends, many were watching the game this morning.
Blah, Blah...stat...blah...stat.... millions of people eat McDonalds every day, but I will make the assumption that most people understand that its not the greatest food in the world.
Sorry lets not have facts cloud our judgement.
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
Hello, all of a sudden you've turned into a comedy genius....I cant stop laughing.
No judgement clouded, you quoted stats and I quoted a fact. But just so you understand, I don't have a problem with the Womens WC, just that its on our national TV channel and costing US money when more deserving sports would benefit.
This fact about only covering it because of an equality agenda. Any source? And I am also interested in the actual amount the BBC is paying for the coverage, if you could tell us. I also note that you never bothered to respond to my very first reply to you on the subject, when you claimed we were all trying to justify the BBC covering women's football although absolutely nobody had mentioned the BBC at that point except you, Greenie...
And, if there is a promotion of equality, can anyone explain to me why that is wrong?
Just been watching the Canada v China game. The first game of the world cup but i had to switch off. Absolutely Horrendous . 70 minutes gone and one shot on target.
I was at that game. It wasn't great but that was because it was a poor game, not because it was women playing. I've watched many many equally turgid men's games. The following match has been a bit more eventful so far but your post completely overlooks the fact the both China and Canada hit the woodwork with decent strikes so it wasn't like the game had zero attacking.
I simply cannot understand the need for so many people to be so condescending towards the women's game. No one, least of all the women who play it, pretends it's somehow up to the standard of the men's game because its patently nowhere near but that doesn't mean it's completely without skill or passion. Trust me, the Canadian girls were not lacking in passion and excitement after they won today.
Besides all that, even the men's game had to start somewhere - it hasn't always been the slickly produced, hyper competitive world game it is now - the FA Cup used to be regularly won by a public school team and the first World Cup involved hardly any teams outside Europe and South America.
Women have every right to play football and every right to the opportunity to represent their country when doing so. The 53,000 Canadians inside the stadium today show there is an appetite for the women's game and it is not going improve if it isn't given a platform on which to grow.
The women's game is still in its infancy and tournaments like this are about raising its profile and encouraging more girls to play it seriously. If that happens then one day it might be closer to the men's game and you might even find yourself enjoying watching it.
In the meantime, if you don't enjoy it, if it's just not for you, if your shrivel-cock masculinity is so threatened by any hint of gender equality that your only reaction is to try a belittle it, then your choice is simple... don't tune in, don't watch it and go back to whatever it is you do enjoy, something I'm sure you are much better at than any woman could ever be.
Abuse and sarcasm mixed with a reasoned argument. This is the kind of post I like to see.
Womens football is dreadful, although it may improve if they wore tighter shorts...
They should stick to beach volleyball (although this should be only for 7/10 and better).
How does this not have 10 abuse flags yet?
Cos it's clearly a joke and not everyone on here is as busy as you.
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I haven't watched any of it as I'm aware that the quality is pretty poor when compared to the professional ranks of the men's game. Plus, I try to avoid the BBC where possible.
I can see where Greenie is coming from. Had ITV, Channel 4 or any other independent channel decided to screen it then I dare say he'd have no issue with it. The fact that the BBC, a largely public funded organisation, has decided to spend 'x' amount of licence fee payers money on an event with, arguably, a very limited audience will have some people scratching their heads.
Dump the licence fee, let advertisers fight over slots for their adverts and then see if the Beeb is willing to splash the cash on it. I dare say they wouldn't have been so keen to screen it if that were the case.
It can only be a good thing that the WWC is being shown but I do think some people are going overboard with the praise for it as though it's some kind of meteoric breakthrough in the world of sport. Personally, I think we'll be in pretty much the same situation in 20 years time and no amount of exposure is going to change it.
The fact remains that most people would rather pay their money to watch the man's game which, unfortunately for the women's game, is far superior in every aspect. I, as much as the next person, would like to see the women's game flourish but I'm not the type to support it for the sake of supporting it or out of some moral standpoint of false equality.
The men and women's game will never be equal as men are better at football than women are. It's an irrefutable fact that may not sit well with the equality pushers. Reason being is that it has nothing to do with equality and has everything to do with ability, talent and the demand to watch it from the public. And, until these parallels are equal, the game never will be.
However, why can't women beat men at darts, snooker or chess? Is a very good question.
They can....and probably would.
The reason that they don't (to any large degree) will be due to participation levels as previously stated.
It's really about money. If there was the money available to sponsor top women darts or snooker players - this would afford them the time to be true professionals and dedicate the same amount of time to the game that the top men do.
I can see no reason that women could not compete on par with men in darts or snooker given a fully "level playing field".
Judit Polgar has been one of the world's top ten chess players at various times and is still ranked in the top 70 (having taken time off to raise a family). Her two sisters are both world class, too.
However, why can't women beat men at darts, snooker or chess? Is a very good question.
They can....and probably would.
The reason that they don't (to any large degree) will be due to participation levels as previously stated.
It's really about money. If there was the money available to sponsor top women darts or snooker players - this would afford them the time to be true professionals and dedicate the same amount of time to the game that the top men do.
I can see no reason that women could not compete on par with men in darts or snooker given a fully "level playing field".
Judit Polgar has been one of the world's top ten chess players at various times and is still ranked in the top 70 (having taken time off to raise a family). Her two sisters are both world class, too.
I purposely didn't mention chess......as I know bugger all about it
However, why can't women beat men at darts, snooker or chess? Is a very good question.
They can....and probably would.
The reason that they don't (to any large degree) will be due to participation levels as previously stated.
It's really about money. If there was the money available to sponsor top women darts or snooker players - this would afford them the time to be true professionals and dedicate the same amount of time to the game that the top men do.
I can see no reason that women could not compete on par with men in darts or snooker given a fully "level playing field".
Judit Polgar has been one of the world's top ten chess players at various times and is still ranked in the top 70 (having taken time off to raise a family). Her two sisters are both world class, too.
I purposely didn't mention chess......as I know bugger all about it
Chess is like a history Lesson ?
You have Kings and Queens. You have Knights and Castles. You have the foot soldiers; the pawns. You can also bash the Bishops !
Other than Suzi none of our lady fans have commented.
I'd be interested to hear more of the female viewpoint.
I think so many of us female poster might feel a bit too shouted down to comment, when I first picked up this thread all I saw was people against it, and some quite ridiculous views. The fact it is in the non sport related section feels a bit demeaning in the first place.
I have watched a lot of the womens world cup and I enjoy it, its nice to finally see it being given the platform it deserves.
As a 28 year old girl now, who at a young age really wanted to play football and was told by every club that i couldn't play /train because all the teams were boys and no girls teams existed, and there was no money for it, I really hope that other girls who had the same ambition as I when I was a kid will see these women as the role models they are, and celebrate the fact that they can watch womens football and be inspired to achieve as so many of these women have.
A colleague at work sister is Claire Rafferty who is number 3 for England Women and Chelsea Ladies, her story is so inspiring it really shows the passion these women have for the game, She has come back from 3 ACL injury's and also works part time to help fund her career as a footballer. I think this really shows how dedicated women can be to the game and how they deserve every recognition that the men get.
All i really see in this thread is people moaning about the fact its on the BBC. I pay a licence fee there is plenty of programming that I find dull and not very entertaining on there, but what one person may find boring someone else might find highly entertaining. Who is to really dictate what people can see and not see. I truly am not moaning about it, that's life. We all have different personalities. The womens game is so tucked away as it is, watch online or via red button for most games, with more competitive games being billed on BBC 2, it certainly isn't the takeover the the men's international game gets, but it makes it accessible to people who do want to view. It isn't in your face or cancelling high billed broadcasting. Let it have its platform it is just as worthy as any other sport.
I really hope that the next time I open this thread that the comment will be more about the games, than about the BBC!
I am a supporter of football, whatever flavour, men's, women's, youth, disability and I don't have time for old fashioned views and politics. There is enough of that in sport as it is! Let me just enjoy the game. Its not like you need to go out of your way to avoid it, if you don't want to see it.
Well said. I think isms tend to reflect people’s own insecurities. It would be far better if we could discuss/be critical, in the same way as we are with the men’s game. If we were all the purists we claim to be, why do we watch Charlton and not a top Premiership club.
Talking about the football. I hope I am wrong and the team grow into the tournament, but I can’t see England beating Germany or Norway and one of these are our likely next opponents when we qualify for the later stages which is very likely. We really are missing Kelly Smith.
I think there is still room for growth, and I think the ladies will play a very different game against Mexico tomorrow night. They certainly have it in them. If they get out of the group it will certainly be tough. But we keep the faith, and keep behind them, the unpredictable keeps the game exciting.
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Great free kick by Norway.
I personally have only seen 10 mins of one game so far.
I have been looking up the final scores and fixtures so far though and hope to catch a game or at least more of one soon.
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/FFC8EEB8321220892591579959296_30cb7d81f31.4.0.3773023683221773397.mp4?versionId=ou3L15rGRxR4Agg4B._CY8W9Gskagr98
They should get some vuvuzelas in.
It was a bit better at the opening game with Canada (was bloody loud when they scored) and there are a hardy few trying to get a singing section going at the NASL games I go to but it is a very different attitude to watching sports live here - a lot of people spend 50% of it in the concourse munching on hot dogs. It treated more like watching at home on a really big telly.
Incredible pass to end the China - Netherlands epic though
Penalty missed though so justice just about done.
http://www.fifa.com/womensworldcup/matches/round=268020/match=300269461/match-report.html?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_news_top
Greenie the Womens world cup seems to have really got to you.....Did you get nut-megged by a girl in the playground back in the day or something?
Hello, all of a sudden you've turned into a comedy genius....I cant stop laughing.
No judgement clouded, you quoted stats and I quoted a fact.
But just so you understand, I don't have a problem with the Womens WC, just that its on our national TV channel and costing US money when more deserving sports would benefit.
This fact about only covering it because of an equality agenda. Any source? And I am also interested in the actual amount the BBC is paying for the coverage, if you could tell us. I also note that you never bothered to respond to my very first reply to you on the subject, when you claimed we were all trying to justify the BBC covering women's football although absolutely nobody had mentioned the BBC at that point except you, Greenie...
And, if there is a promotion of equality, can anyone explain to me why that is wrong?
; )
It was one player, once. And very funny it was too...
I can see where Greenie is coming from. Had ITV, Channel 4 or any other independent channel decided to screen it then I dare say he'd have no issue with it. The fact that the BBC, a largely public funded organisation, has decided to spend 'x' amount of licence fee payers money on an event with, arguably, a very limited audience will have some people scratching their heads.
Dump the licence fee, let advertisers fight over slots for their adverts and then see if the Beeb is willing to splash the cash on it. I dare say they wouldn't have been so keen to screen it if that were the case.
It can only be a good thing that the WWC is being shown but I do think some people are going overboard with the praise for it as though it's some kind of meteoric breakthrough in the world of sport. Personally, I think we'll be in pretty much the same situation in 20 years time and no amount of exposure is going to change it.
The fact remains that most people would rather pay their money to watch the man's game which, unfortunately for the women's game, is far superior in every aspect. I, as much as the next person, would like to see the women's game flourish but I'm not the type to support it for the sake of supporting it or out of some moral standpoint of false equality.
The men and women's game will never be equal as men are better at football than women are. It's an irrefutable fact that may not sit well with the equality pushers. Reason being is that it has nothing to do with equality and has everything to do with ability, talent and the demand to watch it from the public. And, until these parallels are equal, the game never will be.
You have Kings and Queens.
You have Knights and Castles.
You have the foot soldiers; the pawns.
You can also bash the Bishops !
I have watched a lot of the womens world cup and I enjoy it, its nice to finally see it being given the platform it deserves.
As a 28 year old girl now, who at a young age really wanted to play football and was told by every club that i couldn't play /train because all the teams were boys and no girls teams existed, and there was no money for it, I really hope that other girls who had the same ambition as I when I was a kid will see these women as the role models they are, and celebrate the fact that they can watch womens football and be inspired to achieve as so many of these women have.
A colleague at work sister is Claire Rafferty who is number 3 for England Women and Chelsea Ladies, her story is so inspiring it really shows the passion these women have for the game, She has come back from 3 ACL injury's and also works part time to help fund her career as a footballer. I think this really shows how dedicated women can be to the game and how they deserve every recognition that the men get.
All i really see in this thread is people moaning about the fact its on the BBC. I pay a licence fee there is plenty of programming that I find dull and not very entertaining on there, but what one person may find boring someone else might find highly entertaining. Who is to really dictate what people can see and not see. I truly am not moaning about it, that's life. We all have different personalities. The womens game is so tucked away as it is, watch online or via red button for most games, with more competitive games being billed on BBC 2, it certainly isn't the takeover the the men's international game gets, but it makes it accessible to people who do want to view. It isn't in your face or cancelling high billed broadcasting. Let it have its platform it is just as worthy as any other sport.
I really hope that the next time I open this thread that the comment will be more about the games, than about the BBC!
I am a supporter of football, whatever flavour, men's, women's, youth, disability and I don't have time for old fashioned views and politics. There is enough of that in sport as it is! Let me just enjoy the game. Its not like you need to go out of your way to avoid it, if you don't want to see it.
Talking about the football. I hope I am wrong and the team grow into the tournament, but I can’t see England beating Germany or Norway and one of these are our likely next opponents when we qualify for the later stages which is very likely. We really are missing Kelly Smith.