For clarification: It's not shite because it's football played by women. It's shite because it's just....well....shite football. I don't want to watch Fat Gut United Sunday Team play football on my TV and I dont want to watch this rubbish.
Have a watch of the highlights of the women's FA Cup final:
For clarification: It's not shite because it's football played by women. It's shite because it's just....well....shite football. I don't want to watch Fat Gut United Sunday Team play football on my TV and I dont want to watch this rubbish.
I don't want to watch Eastenders on my TV and have a very simple solution.
I am yet to comment on the Eastenders thread.
Good for you and thanks for the fascinating insight into your day.
If this was only on Statellite Rodders TV, I wouldn't be as peeved about it, however because the Beeb are spending my licence money on crap like this, my comments and opinions are valid. Equality gone mad.
For clarification: It's not shite because it's football played by women. It's shite because it's just....well....shite football. I don't want to watch Fat Gut United Sunday Team play football on my TV and I dont want to watch this rubbish.
I don't want to watch Eastenders on my TV and have a very simple solution.
As someone who has watched women football over 20 years, mainly on TV but went to a couple of finals, as soon as i saw the England team yesterday i knew it was going to be a poor game to watch. Samson picked a team to try to negate the French side by double marking the French Winger.(that part worked) That's the first time i watched The England side with no flair players ? Kelly Smith, Injured, Rachel Yankey Retired, Carney on the bench, Jordon Nobbs on the bench, No support for Aluko. After scoring 52 goals in 10 matches against easier opposition in qualifying, The coach went for damage limitation, which made it a boring match to watch.
I watch about 150 matches a season either live or on TV, and the Nigeria V Sweden 3-3(womens match) would be in my top 10 for Entertainment, with some great skill from the attacking players.(i needed Sweden to win for my accumulator)
This season the worst games for skill,i've seen, have been Scottish or Conference games but trying to spot players who can play at a higher level (maybe CAFC) there's always some good things, even if it's only defenders.
For clarification: It's not shite because it's football played by women. It's shite because it's just....well....shite football. I don't want to watch Fat Gut United Sunday Team play football on my TV and I dont want to watch this rubbish.
I don't want to watch Eastenders on my TV and have a very simple solution.
I am yet to comment on the Eastenders thread.
Yet you bring it up on a thread about women's football, you're clearly obsesed ☺
For clarification: It's not shite because it's football played by women. It's shite because it's just....well....shite football. I don't want to watch Fat Gut United Sunday Team play football on my TV and I dont want to watch this rubbish.
Have a watch of the highlights of the women's FA Cup final:
I have been impressed on previous occasions I have watched the England team. I think they had 3 or 4 that were not up to the mark yesterday. They clearly miss the flair of Kelly Smith and it is pretty clear they won’t win the tournament without her. Defensively, it was difficult to tell as the French didn’t create much either. Think they stand off a bit too much and balls get through sometimes that shouldn't. Having watched some of the other games, they will find it easier breaking through weaker defences so should progress, but suspect they will miss out to the first decent team they meet in the latter stages unless they improve greatly. A bit like the England’s men team then.
I tried for about ten minutes and just couldn't follow it. The quality is so poor/different from the men's game that it kind of feels as though it is a different sport entirely.
Of course I still want England to do well, but I don't think I'll be tuning in much.
I think the quality will improve as the tournament goes on and the rubbish teams are knocked out. Women’s tennis is different to men’s and I can enjoy a good women’s match. There are fewer players with skill and talent, but some very good ones and there are fewer good sides. I don’t think there is anything wrong in criticising the quality as the game has to improve. I watched an England match a couple of years ago with Kelly Smith playing and was impressed with the whole team. I was less impressed yesterday as they were not as good as that side. Also, I don’t like being told a player is a good player by the commentator, when she doesn’t show me any evidence of it.
Goalkeeper is a very technical position and it is clear that the world game hasn’t really cracked identifying talented girls and coaching them. I say without doubt, as an ancient 50 year old, that I would be one of the best keepers in the tournament if I was allowed to play in it. That isn’t boasting about my abilities or an exaggeration. The level is really poor.
Also I see absolutely no reasons why the refs are so bad. Jonathan Pierce bemoaned the ruling that any high arm that contacts an opponent will result in at least a booking, irrespective of circumstances in this tournament. Then a French player wilfully elbows an English defender with the ref facing the incident only a couple of metres away and no action was taken. The English player had a big mark on her cheek and this is poor from the ref. Also an early goal kick that was so obviously a corner- Stevie Wonder would have seen it and a clear penalty from a late and needless tackle by an English defender that wasn’t given!!!!!
I watched the England women play Holland at The Valley with my daughters back in the prem days. Karen Carney put in more decent crosses than Rommedahl managed in his entire time with us.
The women are pretty skilful and play attractive football. The goalkeeping is not all that often and lack of physicality can sometimes leads to glaring errors but the mens game can be error ridden too.
For clarification: It's not shite because it's football played by women. It's shite because it's just....well....shite football. I don't want to watch Fat Gut United Sunday Team play football on my TV and I dont want to watch this rubbish.
Have a watch of the highlights of the women's FA Cup final:
I watched the England women play Holland at The Valley with my daughters back in the prem days. Karen Carney put in more decent crosses than Rommedahl managed in his entire time with us.
The women are pretty skilful and play attractive football. The goalkeeping is not all that often and lack of physicality can sometimes leads to glaring errors but the mens game can be error ridden too.
That'll be the Dennis Rommedahl of over 100 Demnmark caps, a world cup goal and appearances for PSV, Ajax and Olympiakos.
Yes, but can he put in a cross in super slow motion football like Karen Carney I hear you ask!!!!
England Internationals Eni Aluko, Casey Stoney, Katie Chapman, Jo Potter and Fara Williams were all part of the successful squad we had at Charlton back in the early 2,000's when we regularly challenged Arsenal for the game's top honours, winning the Women's FA Cup in our Centenary Year - sadly you know what happened next!
England Internationals Eni Aluko, Casey Stoney, Katie Chapman, Jo Potter and Fara Williams were all part of the successful squad we had at Charlton back in the early 2,000's when we regularly challenged Arsenal for the game's top honours, winning the Women's FA Cup in our Centenary Year - sadly you know what happened next!
Was asked a question this morning and would be interesting to get some comments. Women's football isn't at the same level as men. Same applies to tennis, cricket , golf etc etc. However, why can't women beat men at darts, snooker or chess? Is a very good question.
Was asked a question this morning and would be interesting to get some comments. Women's football isn't at the same level as men. Same applies to tennis, cricket , golf etc etc. However, why can't women beat men at darts, snooker or chess? Is a very good question.
When it comes to sports like Darts & Snooker, its probably simply down to participation numbers. Its like saying why aren't English men as good as American men at American Football....they probably could be if they had more participants concentrating solely on that sport.
However, why can't women beat men at darts, snooker or chess? Is a very good question.
They can....and probably would.
The reason that they don't (to any large degree) will be due to participation levels as previously stated.
It's really about money. If there was the money available to sponsor top women darts or snooker players - this would afford them the time to be true professionals and dedicate the same amount of time to the game that the top men do.
I can see no reason that women could not compete on par with men in darts or snooker given a fully "level playing field".
If the choice is football or a soap, I’d pick football every day. I personally enjoy analysing games/tactics and the women’s game is quite interesting in this respect.
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Lifes not fair, never has been, never will be, and as soon as so called intellectuals understand that fact, then we can all go about our business without the whipped liberals of this world questioning our opinions on equality.
So equality is fine as long as you limit the amount of equality there is on television? Is that your point?
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
No. My point was made in the sentence that you quoted, not how you interpreted it.
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world. What other reason can there be? There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this. Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
Ok so.....
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???
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My opinion remains the same this morning
If this was only on Statellite Rodders TV, I wouldn't be as peeved about it, however because the Beeb are spending my licence money on crap like this, my comments and opinions are valid. Equality gone mad.
That's the first time i watched The England side with no flair players ?
Kelly Smith, Injured, Rachel Yankey Retired, Carney on the bench, Jordon Nobbs on the bench, No support for Aluko.
After scoring 52 goals in 10 matches against easier opposition in qualifying,
The coach went for damage limitation, which made it a boring match to watch.
I watch about 150 matches a season either live or on TV, and the Nigeria V Sweden 3-3(womens match) would be in my top 10 for Entertainment, with some great skill from the attacking players.(i needed Sweden to win for my accumulator)
This season the worst games for skill,i've seen, have been Scottish or Conference games but trying to spot players who can play at a higher level (maybe CAFC) there's always some good things, even if it's only defenders.
Of course I still want England to do well, but I don't think I'll be tuning in much.
Goalkeeper is a very technical position and it is clear that the world game hasn’t really cracked identifying talented girls and coaching them. I say without doubt, as an ancient 50 year old, that I would be one of the best keepers in the tournament if I was allowed to play in it. That isn’t boasting about my abilities or an exaggeration. The level is really poor.
Also I see absolutely no reasons why the refs are so bad. Jonathan Pierce bemoaned the ruling that any high arm that contacts an opponent will result in at least a booking, irrespective of circumstances in this tournament. Then a French player wilfully elbows an English defender with the ref facing the incident only a couple of metres away and no action was taken. The English player had a big mark on her cheek and this is poor from the ref. Also an early goal kick that was so obviously a corner- Stevie Wonder would have seen it and a clear penalty from a late and needless tackle by an English defender that wasn’t given!!!!!
The women are pretty skilful and play attractive football. The goalkeeping is not all that often and lack of physicality can sometimes leads to glaring errors but the mens game can be error ridden too.
Watch Usa, Japan,Germany, Brazil or France when they don't come up against a team who park the bus.
Yes, but can he put in a cross in super slow motion football like Karen Carney I hear you ask!!!!
The reason that they don't (to any large degree) will be due to participation levels as previously stated.
It's really about money. If there was the money available to sponsor top women darts or snooker players - this would afford them the time to be true professionals and dedicate the same amount of time to the game that the top men do.
I can see no reason that women could not compete on par with men in darts or snooker given a fully "level playing field".
Isnt that....promoting inequality?
License payers rage about the BBC promoting equality via sport shocker!
It was this, just so you get it, 'equality gone mad'
Lets be honest the only reason the BEEB are showing it is for equality reasons within the greatest sport in the world.
What other reason can there be?
There are dozens of sports that get very little coverage, British sportsmen/women partake in them who are at the top of their game.....and yet the UKs biggest broadcasting company cover this.
Also, as someone once said, all the while men cannot give birth, men and women can never be equal.
It seems youre arguing that the quality of the football is shit, and the BBC are only showing it because of their equality agenda. Supposedly they are ignoring other sports that have a higher level of quality, but are being ignored. Im guessing you mean handball or hockey or something?
But surely if they showed these others sports as well, you would then argue that this is also pushing an equality agenda? Im not interested in these sports but theyre showing them anyways and wasting my license fee, that bloody equality agenda!
With football being the worlds most popular sport, doesnt it make sense to show this on telly if there are more people who are receptive to the sport, as apposed to showing hockey where the women may be amazing at it, but generally less people are interested in hockey anyways regardless of the gender of the players? Besides, whats actually wrong with an equality agenda? Surely if a society is being progressive and we want equal rights/opportunities for all, isnt it good to push an equality agenda? Pushing an equality agenda helped combat racism and sexism.
Do you have an issue with the Charlton OWS posting stories about our womens team?
How is being able to give birth a measure of gender equality, like Leuth said what if youre infertile or something. Perhaps its a measure of equality in the sense that men cant give birth so they are unequal in that respect? But anyways, what does that have to do with womens football TV coverage???