Standard Liege reportedly being sold (Press conference at 10am)
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Just got this mail from Jacques Seron of the Standard Socios, and thought it might be worth sharing
Well, we had our AGM to-day and the members asked me to remain in touch with you because we had a good relationship with Charlton and maybe we can have valuable informations for you in the future ;-)
And maybe will we meet Charlton in the future in an european cup contest
RD has made a lot of money on behalf of the Standard (the Press talks about 27 millions €) and should be able to strengthen your team ... wait and see.
We wish you a lot of luck, promotion soon to the Premiership and hapiness ... but just be careful with the RD
Well I appreciate that for most of us, it was just a strange short episode in our Charlton Life, but I'm glad that through contact with these guys I learnt a lot about Standard and the city of Liege. We know that in Belgium the other clubs' fans are a bit sniffy about Standard, but the passion of their fans is beyond doubt. It's a club with a soul, and I really hope they do well.14 -
Well said. I'll be keeping an eye on their results. I can't help thinking that some of the profit from Standard went via Staprix towards purchasing CAFC, although he's obviously not short of a bob or two, anyway.PragueAddick said:Just got this mail from Jacques Seron of the Standard Socios, and thought it might be worth sharing
Well, we had our AGM to-day and the members asked me to remain in touch with you because we had a good relationship with Charlton and maybe we can have valuable informations for you in the future ;-)
And maybe will we meet Charlton in the future in an european cup contest
RD has made a lot of money on behalf of the Standard (the Press talks about 27 millions €) and should be able to strengthen your team ... wait and see.
We wish you a lot of luck, promotion soon to the Premiership and hapiness ... but just be careful with the RD
Well I appreciate that for most of us, it was just a strange short episode in our Charlton Life, but I'm glad that through contact with these guys I learnt a lot about Standard and the city of Liege. We know that in Belgium the other clubs' fans are a bit sniffy about Standard, but the passion of their fans is beyond doubt. It's a club with a soul, and I really hope they do well.
How long will RD stay in football? With a nod to oohaah, and bearing in mind RD's age and that he's not passionate about football, I'd guess:
0-1 years: 20%....
2-5 years: 55%...
6-10 years: 20%...
11+ years: 5% (which would depend on CAFC or whatever English club he might then own being in the EPL and having what might by then be an income of £150 million a year, just for turning up).
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It could be argued before that Standard Liege were the biggest club in his network, indeed wasn't one of the worries when the takeover happened that they would steal our best players.
We've benefited overall, as their 'unwanted players' have overall been good enough for us, certainly Buyens and Bulot were. It's unlikely that we will benefit from the remaining network clubs in the same way.
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Haven't we had some good players sent across from Standard Liege, as well as some not very good players that we might normally not had access too.
So in theory we are unlikely to be getting any half decent players in the future from Liege?
I wonder if Roland is looking to add more clubs from other countries to his portfolio, whether he's winding down his business , bit by bit.
Or whether he's finally worked it out on his giant chess board, that we are the likeliest outcome to a pot of gold by being in the Premiership?
I've given up trying to second this fella, at times he baffles me with his logic.2 -
I doubt things will work the same as with Sint Truiden, who have continued to pass players to and fro with the RD network, but I wonder if an unannounced part of the Standard sale might be ongoing co-operation over loans and transfers. We should see over the next couple of months.Mendonca In Asdas said:Haven't we had some good players sent across from Standard Liege, as well as some not very good players that we might normally not had access too.
So in theory we are unlikely to be getting any half decent players in the future from Liege?
I wonder if Roland is looking to add more clubs from other countries to his portfolio, whether he's winding down his business , bit by bit.
Or whether he's finally worked it out on his giant chess board, that we are the likeliest outcome to a pot of gold by being in the Premiership?
I've given up trying to second this fella, at times he baffles me with his logic.0 -
I think that will be the case.MountsfieldPark said:
I doubt things will work the same as with Sint Truiden, who have continued to pass players to and fro with the RD network, but I wonder if an unannounced part of the Standard sale might be ongoing co-operation over loans and transfers. We should see over the next couple of months.Mendonca In Asdas said:Haven't we had some good players sent across from Standard Liege, as well as some not very good players that we might normally not had access too.
So in theory we are unlikely to be getting any half decent players in the future from Liege?
I wonder if Roland is looking to add more clubs from other countries to his portfolio, whether he's winding down his business , bit by bit.
Or whether he's finally worked it out on his giant chess board, that we are the likeliest outcome to a pot of gold by being in the Premiership?
I've given up trying to second this fella, at times he baffles me with his logic.0 -
RD's only passion for football is for Sint Truiden. Also Katrien's girlhood team. Do they have a profitable Academy, I wonder? (I don't think so...) They've just made it to the top division in Belgium, so much closer to the European leagues than little old Charlton. Sell off our assets (maybe why he bought us) and propel ST into the big time? I may be completely wrong here as I have been enjoying a very nice weekend, so don't take this too seriously.3
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@Weegie Addick And Lifers wonder why the Trust find it hard to get Katriene onside!3
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Just a tongue in cheek personal opinion, @ExiledinManchester ;-) Though might be a bit more serious if we do sell Jordan Cousins..0
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Been said many times but its gonna be an interesting summer, I guess we'll see/guess how much of any sales will be reinvested.
I sure dont think it makes sense to have two clubs in the same division for RD, i guess its about moving players up and down until they reach their level.0 - Sponsored links:
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I see the Trust peeps are reporting CAFC top of the pyramid http://castrust.org
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Yeah yeah yeah! Top of the pyramid. We are exactly where we were two weeks ago, minus Gomez. RD has outlined his visión of Charlton as a championship club who live off their youth program, and that's how it will stay.2
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But that vision was when he owned a bigger club. We are now the biggest club he owns and a bit heavier investment might see him get a bigger return if we went up. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks.ken_shabby said:Yeah yeah yeah! Top of the pyramid. We are exactly where we were two weeks ago, minus Gomez. RD has outlined his visión of Charlton as a championship club who live off their youth program, and that's how it will stay.
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Has he? Got a link?ken_shabby said:Yeah yeah yeah! Top of the pyramid. We are exactly where we were two weeks ago, minus Gomez. RD has outlined his visión of Charlton as a championship club who live off their youth program, and that's how it will stay.
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It's Belgian journalist opinion, to be accurate. RD himself denied in the press conference that there ever was a pyramid.razil said:I see the Trust peeps are reporting CAFC top of the pyramid http://castrust.org
We simply have to wait and see, as many people have already said
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What part of "don't take this too seriously" did you not understand?ExiledinManchester said:@Weegie Addick And Lifers wonder why the Trust find it hard to get Katriene onside!
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I wonder if he is now looking to exploit the French player base more, big population, etc0
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Source?ken_shabby said:Yeah yeah yeah! Top of the pyramid. We are exactly where we were two weeks ago, minus Gomez. RD has outlined his visión of Charlton as a championship club who live off their youth program, and that's how it will stay.
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I'm probably being very naive here, having no business acumen whatsoever and little interest in the economic machinations of running a club, but I don't understand why a multi-millionaire business man would buy a Championship football club and not make it his absolute priority to get that club into the Premiership.ken_shabby said:Yeah yeah yeah! Top of the pyramid. We are exactly where we were two weeks ago, minus Gomez. RD has outlined his visión of Charlton as a championship club who live off their youth program, and that's how it will stay.
Of course, he'd have to spend millions in doing so,but wouldn't a season in the all-you can-eat Premiership recoup that outlay and make a bigger profit than simply selling off our talented youngsters?
I genuinely don't know.
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Redskin, this is our best guess, as to his motives.ShootersHillGuru said:I'm stil not totally convinced that RD has a target for Charlton in any way other than to break even yet remain the club they already are. I don't see any evidence that the Premier League is his Holy Grail.
I think that he thinks having a very very good academy means that we can produce a production line of Players like Jenkinson, Shelvey, Poyet and Gomez etc etc which can be sold every season or so in order to fund the club.
If we get lucky with some value punts from overseas as well then that adds some value too.
I don't see a plan to build a squad year on year to attack the playoffs like Curbishley did under Murray. I see a policy of increasing the use of academy players as they come on line, a few shrewd? Signings and gaps filled with the Johnsons, Eagles, Bikeys where necessary. Being able to utilise other network clubs is a useful addition although the sale of Standard Liege means that the network has no clubs where player quality matches that of The Championship which unless that is addressed (Lens) ? Causes RD a problem he hasn't had before.
That I believe is Roland's experiment to prove that clubs can be run to break even.0 - Sponsored links:
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Does RD really want to break even or does he want to make money? I know what I think, but I do not know how he intends to do it0
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That all makes sense CE,but I still don't see why a businessman would simply want to break even and not make a profit of some sort.Unless, of course, he does that by selling the club.Covered End said:
Redskin, this is our best guess, as to his motives.ShootersHillGuru said:I'm stil not totally convinced that RD has a target for Charlton in any way other than to break even yet remain the club they already are. I don't see any evidence that the Premier League is his Holy Grail.
I think that he thinks having a very very good academy means that we can produce a production line of Players like Jenkinson, Shelvey, Poyet and Gomez etc etc which can be sold every season or so in order to fund the club.
If we get lucky with some value punts from overseas as well then that adds some value too.
I don't see a plan to build a squad year on year to attack the playoffs like Curbishley did under Murray. I see a policy of increasing the use of academy players as they come on line, a few shrewd? Signings and gaps filled with the Johnsons, Eagles, Bikeys where necessary. Being able to utilise other network clubs is a useful addition although the sale of Standard Liege means that the network has no clubs where player quality matches that of The Championship which unless that is addressed (Lens) ? Causes RD a problem he hasn't had before.
That I believe is Roland's experiment to prove that clubs can be run to break even.
Aha! that's it isn't it?
By George, I think she's got it!
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There ain't anyone, in the whole wide world, that can work RD out.Redskin said:
That all makes sense CE,but I still don't see why a businessman would simply want to break even and not make a profit of some sort.Unless, of course, he does that by selling the club.Covered End said:
Redskin, this is our best guess, as to his motives.ShootersHillGuru said:I'm stil not totally convinced that RD has a target for Charlton in any way other than to break even yet remain the club they already are. I don't see any evidence that the Premier League is his Holy Grail.
I think that he thinks having a very very good academy means that we can produce a production line of Players like Jenkinson, Shelvey, Poyet and Gomez etc etc which can be sold every season or so in order to fund the club.
If we get lucky with some value punts from overseas as well then that adds some value too.
I don't see a plan to build a squad year on year to attack the playoffs like Curbishley did under Murray. I see a policy of increasing the use of academy players as they come on line, a few shrewd? Signings and gaps filled with the Johnsons, Eagles, Bikeys where necessary. Being able to utilise other network clubs is a useful addition although the sale of Standard Liege means that the network has no clubs where player quality matches that of The Championship which unless that is addressed (Lens) ? Causes RD a problem he hasn't had before.
That I believe is Roland's experiment to prove that clubs can be run to break even.
Aha! that's it isn't it?
By George, I think she's got it!
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True price he sold SL for including players last summer is £48m I think.0
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I really do not think it is possible to break even in The Championship for any meaningful amount of time, let alone turn a profit so unless he bought us for inheritance tax avoidance reasons (ie do your money on a mid range Champ club and leave your family nowt = no tax bill!) the only logical conclusion is he has some desire for promotion to the PL.Redskin said:
I'm probably being very naive here, having no business acumen whatsoever and little interest in the economic machinations of running a club, but I don't understand why a multi-millionaire business man would buy a Championship football club and not make it his absolute priority to get that club into the Premiership.ken_shabby said:Yeah yeah yeah! Top of the pyramid. We are exactly where we were two weeks ago, minus Gomez. RD has outlined his visión of Charlton as a championship club who live off their youth program, and that's how it will stay.
Of course, he'd have to spend millions in doing so,but wouldn't a season in the all-you can-eat Premiership recoup that outlay and make a bigger profit than simply selling off our talented youngsters?
I genuinely don't know.2 -
Link with Standard Liege should continue
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Holy f**ks off, they go and win a trophy.
Won the Belgian cup today beating league leaders Club Brugge 2-16 -
That could be us next season with the Johnstones Paint TrophyChris_from_Sidcup said:Roly f**ks off, they go and win a trophy.
Won the Belgian cup today beating league leaders Club Brugge 2-119 -
NOOOOOOO!BigRedEvil said:
That could be us next season with the Johnstones Paint TrophyChris_from_Sidcup said:Roly fucks off, they go and win a trophy.
Won the Belgian cup today beating league leaders Club Brugge 2-1
Better get our season tickets soon then otherwise NO chance of getting a Wembley ticket !
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