As I stated in the rumours thread a possible explanation is that Charlton don't have the budget to pay the next instalment of his transfer fee which (possibly?) becomes payable if he plays many more games. As far as Bolton taking on an unfit player I should imagine that the deal would see Charlton continue to pay his wages, or a portion of his wages, until he proves himself fit.
So it is a low risk for Bolton. Charlton avoid the immediate problem of paying a big chunk in the next instalment of his transfer fee. If he proves a success then his transfer value goes back up and they can sell him and pay back all outstanding fees on his transfer.
That's the most plausible explanation so far, I reckon, even if I presume it is completely speculative?
Igor & Luzon aren't huge fans of each other. Luzon appears to have a problem with any player BP signed - look at the treatment meted out to Bikey.
RD's plan is to get to the PL on a sensible budget. Whilst I understand people's concerns, I do wonder why similar questions were never asked of Murray in his latter years at the helm. Playing success is largely down to the ability of the manager at this level. Back to Igor, I expect him to go out on loan in the near future, with a permanent deal in January a distinct possibility. Not sure whether we will move for a replacement.
Igor & Luzon aren't huge fans of each other. Luzon appears to have a problem with any player BP signed - look at the treatment meted out to Bikey.
When we signed Igor wasn't there a rumour/quote from one of the Belgium posters that confirmed Standard Liege wanted to sign him but he wasn't interested? If so then that would have been when Luzon was in charge.
Could well be some truth in that they don't get on.
Igor & Luzon aren't huge fans of each other. Luzon appears to have a problem with any player BP signed - look at the treatment meted out to Bikey.
RD's plan is to get to the PL on a sensible budget. Whilst I understand people's concerns, I do wonder why similar questions were never asked of Murray in his latter years at the helm. Playing success is largely down to the ability of the manager at this level. Back to Igor, I expect him to go out on loan in the near future, with a permanent deal in January a distinct possibility. Not sure whether we will move for a replacement.
What I said a few days ago "Personally I think Igor has had enough of Luzon and Luzon has had enough of Igor so they look to move on a relatively expensive player."
That Ketts just reads what I post on here and copies it : - )
Igor & Luzon aren't huge fans of each other. Luzon appears to have a problem with any player BP signed - look at the treatment meted out to Bikey.
RD's plan is to get to the PL on a sensible budget. Whilst I understand people's concerns, I do wonder why similar questions were never asked of Murray in his latter years at the helm. Playing success is largely down to the ability of the manager at this level. Back to Igor, I expect him to go out on loan in the near future, with a permanent deal in January a distinct possibility. Not sure whether we will move for a replacement.
Was it BP who signed Igor and Bikey though, or RD and his network? Indeed, I've no idea who signs and scouts most of these foreign signings! Who signed JBG and Henderson who also arrived 'under BP'?
Igor & Luzon aren't huge fans of each other. Luzon appears to have a problem with any player BP signed - look at the treatment meted out to Bikey.
Peters did sign Gudmunson (or at least he was signed when Peters was coach which isn't the same thing) but Igor was very much a player that Peters knew and wanted. Is there anyone else left from last summer's signings? Which is telling in itself.
I think with Gudmundsson, if the stories are true, was more the whistleblower on BP's antics than a BP fan so I don't think there is any love loss there so I think Luzon is good with him. If we had the Vetokele of early last year I'd be even more gutted that he is going. But would be gutted in general if he left and we brought no one in as a replacement.
What if selling Vetokele enabled us to buy Mackienok outright come the end of the season?
Would you take it?
And there was me thinking in August, aha, Makienok and either Igor or TW, depending on the oppo, and the state of play, now that looks like a serious striking setup
In my opinion we would be mad to loan out/sell Igor at present, especially without a top notch replacement guaranteed. If we can get him fit and motivated he is the only proven regular goalscorer in our squad. If there is a personality clash between Igor and Luzon they need to have their heads cracked together. Get it sorted Katrien!
If there is any truth in a personality clash then Luzon needs to use his managerial skills here and find a way to resolve and get the best from Vet. Our squad is too small for nonsense fall outs with better players like Wiggins and Vet.
If there is any truth in a personality clash then Luzon needs to use his managerial skills here and find a way to resolve and get the best from Vet. Our squad is too small for nonsense fall outs with better players like Wiggins and Vet.
Exactly.
With the caveat that we don't know the truth.
But if that is the case, then I'd like to observe that Chris Powell wasn't afforded the luxury of falling out with the trash he was made to work with, was he? Either we have the Head Coach model or we don't. If we do, then the Head Coach's job is to get the best out of the resources at his disposal. Personal whims can't come into it.
Luzon can legitimately argue that Igor's unfitness is partly down to the player (carrying timber for all to see) , and that could be frustrating for a Head Coach, but that in turn brings other aspects of our setup under scrutiny.
both Luzon and his processor appear to have questionable man-management skills, yet Riga and Powell seemed to have it in abundance, but another assumption we think they weren't willing to work under RDs scheme
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I did find this
Is it an old international cap of Long John Hewies ??
Seen better days and needs to be restored.
I thought maybe you had seen this thread
http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/69229/appeal-for-funds-to-restore-and-display-items-belonging-to-john-hewie#latest
Igor & Luzon aren't huge fans of each other. Luzon appears to have a problem with any player BP signed - look at the treatment meted out to Bikey.
RD's plan is to get to the PL on a sensible budget. Whilst I understand people's concerns, I do wonder why similar questions were never asked of Murray in his latter years at the helm. Playing success is largely down to the ability of the manager at this level. Back to Igor, I expect him to go out on loan in the near future, with a permanent deal in January a distinct possibility. Not sure whether we will move for a replacement.
will look at it once all the pictures download on my poxy pc
That Ketts just reads what I post on here and copies it : - )
Would you take it?
So old, yet still so gullible, me....
Let's wait and see how the great Dane does over the whole season.
With the caveat that we don't know the truth.
But if that is the case, then I'd like to observe that Chris Powell wasn't afforded the luxury of falling out with the trash he was made to work with, was he? Either we have the Head Coach model or we don't. If we do, then the Head Coach's job is to get the best out of the resources at his disposal. Personal whims can't come into it.
Luzon can legitimately argue that Igor's unfitness is partly down to the player (carrying timber for all to see) , and that could be frustrating for a Head Coach, but that in turn brings other aspects of our setup under scrutiny.
Something here is not right. Not one little bit.
Cos when Luzon first came it, Buyens was playing his worst Football, a few weeks later and he was playing brilliantly