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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,938
    When all is considered, I can’t help but think Lewis is a deserving winner though. Tbh - he was clearly the quickest guy out there but I can’t help but think the team are favouring George on every strategy at the moment. He had no choice to roll the dice luck Button sometimes did and whilst he did well, the fact he was underweight highlighted how quick Lewis was.

    1.5kg can be 3 secs in race time. This lost Lewis the race 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited July 2024
    I don't think the team favoured Russell. Hamilton had to cover off his race rivals' strategy and Russell had no chance so could afford to risk the one stop. In terms of the weight issue, I suppose you look at the weight of the tread lost on the tyres. That would be 1.5kg divided by 4 which then doesn't seem so much. Something we often see at the end of races is cars going off on the marbles to pick up weight which suggests this is a marginal thing. Also, you can't do this at the end of a race at Spa because of it's length and the way you have to double back to parc ferme.

    Hamilton was the deserving winner though.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-young-driver-standalone-race-proposal-revealed/

    Suggestions of a standalone mini event for young drivers that is tacked onto the Post season Abu Dhabi test , sounds interesting as long as teams can't just "highest bidder" the seats. 
  • West2003
    West2003 Posts: 386
    edited July 2024
    Sainz has gone to Williams for 2025.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    I'm shocked Sainz has gone to Williams, that's a big coup for James Vowles and the owners. Gives them an excellent lineup for the future with Sainz and Albon. Just need to deliver a car that can show their potential.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,369
    I'm not as it sounded one of the more viable rumours, equally read (unsurprisingly) that he has a get out clause to go and join a big team if one comes calling.

    So sounds a sensible plan of action for Carlos, but imagine that paves the way for Antonelli to join Mercedes, as do they really have any other genuine options now?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,276
    Crazy, I had them down as the rank outsiders for his signature a couple of months ago, suddenly there's a couple of seats at Alpine and Audi that, if they get their act together, can be very good options for someone. Also all but confirms Antonelli will get a chance straight in at Mercedes. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,369
    edited July 2024
    Wonder who'll take the Alpine and Audi seats now... the options look very meh!! for the latter now, might as well either stick with Bottas or give Pourchaire a go.

    Alpine really does seem a shoot out between Schumacher and Doohan
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wonder who'll take the Alpine and Audi seats now... the options look very meh!! for the latter now, might as well either stick with Bottas or give Pourchaire a go.

    Alpine really does seem a shoot out between Schumacher and Doohan

    Think it's Bottas to stay at Audi , Pourchaire will end up in Indycar and Maloney has had a weird second half of the season in F2. 

    Alpine not going Doohan would make their academy look stupid. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,369
    MarcusH26 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wonder who'll take the Alpine and Audi seats now... the options look very meh!! for the latter now, might as well either stick with Bottas or give Pourchaire a go.

    Alpine really does seem a shoot out between Schumacher and Doohan

    Think it's Bottas to stay at Audi , Pourchaire will end up in Indycar and Maloney has had a weird second half of the season in F2. 

    Alpine not going Doohan would make their academy look stupid. 
    They've already achieved that with the Piastri fiasco... But yeah Maloney has really fallen away in F2, so see him taking the FE route
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,276
    All depends on the rumoured Schumi Jr/Mercedes engines double deal
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    ForeverAddickted said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wonder who'll take the Alpine and Audi seats now... the options look very meh!! for the latter now, might as well either stick with Bottas or give Pourchaire a go.

    Alpine really does seem a shoot out between Schumacher and Doohan

    Think it's Bottas to stay at Audi , Pourchaire will end up in Indycar and Maloney has had a weird second half of the season in F2. 

    Alpine not going Doohan would make their academy look stupid. 
    They've already achieved that with the Piastri fiasco... But yeah Maloney has really fallen away in F2, so see him taking the FE route

    FE looks to be in complete flux driver wise so I could easily see that being a route for Maloney. 

    With Alpine they've only really got Mini in the academy who looks to be putting anything good together - the rest of them especially Martins are incredibly inconsistent. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,369
    You equally have to wonder what this news does for the likes of Colapinto  - O'Sullivan - Browning...

    The Williams Academy is pretty decent, however they've probably got a massive roadblock in front of them now (Even for 2026 onwards), as even the Albon options for moving forward are pretty limited.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    https://www.racefans.net/2024/07/29/perez-will-stay-at-red-bull-for-the-rest-of-the-year-horner-tells-team-staff/

    Looks like Red Bull are keeping Perez. WCC advantage McLaren. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,276
    They'll take the WCC still simply because Mercedes and McLaren will keep taking points off eachother
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,170
    sam3110 said:
    Crazy, I had them down as the rank outsiders for his signature a couple of months ago, suddenly there's a couple of seats at Alpine and Audi that, if they get their act together, can be very good options for someone. Also all but confirms Antonelli will get a chance straight in at Mercedes. 
    Maybe not such a crazy decision. I thought the days of non-works teams challenging at the front of F1 were done but McLaren are showing that can still be done. 

    Audi’s entry seems to be in a bit of a mess right now and Binotto was not exactly an unqualified success at Ferrari so there is lots for everyone to prove there. 

    Alpine are going backwards fast, Williams and even Haas are faster right now.

    If he couldn’t get one of the two potentially open top seats (Mercedes or Red Bull then Williams probably are not such a bad choice. Only probably Aston are clearly ahead of them in the midfield runners. The rest of the midfield/lower order seems to change on a race by race by race basis. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,767
    edited July 2024
    Anyone else think that French swimming superstar Leon Marchand looks a bit like Lando Norris?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/doohan-close-to-alpine-f1-2025-race-deal/10640891/

    Looks like Alpine are going for promoting Jack Doohan as opposed to any external options or Mick Schumacher.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    https://x.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1818980328905597313?t=gpQB56xyKmmJIOQpZhTbRg&s=19

    Audi appoint current Red Bull Sporting Director Johnathan Wheatley as Team Principal - will see the season out with Red Bull and then go on Gardening Leave.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,072
    Red Bull falling apart, love to see it. Max to Merc next 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,369
    Bloody hell!!
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    I think Wheatley is probably one like a James Vowles to Williams situation where he knows he's never getting the top job so if he wants to be a TP he needs to get away from Red Bull.

    However that's another long term Horner lieutenant and someone that's been around Red Bull for all of their success both with Vettel and Verstappen leaving the team. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    As the car gets slower (compared to its rivals) Max gets more powerful. Hence I suspect the reason they have kept Perez on for the rest of the season.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    Wonder how much money Carlos Slim via Telmex and his various other companies is paying Red Bull to keep Perez.... Got to be a hefty chunk of change to keep him around. 
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,812
    Newey has allegedly signed for Aston. T'internet reckons Max to follow in 2026.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,072
    edited August 2024
    Boo not a big fan of Aston Martin. But moving to Honda engines and all the ex Red Bull staff already they are on the way to becoming Red Bull mk 2
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    The thing with Aston is how long will Lawrence tolerate Lance being below par? All this investment in facilities and technical staff only for one of the cars to be a constant Q1 exit isn't a good look. If you're hiring Newey you've got to be eyeing up a 2026 title shot 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,276
    Alonso will be another 2 years older too 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,042
    I think Alonso retires end of 2025 from F1 but he'll never stop racing. Would make a very interesting driver market. 
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Strolls aim is to make his boy world champion - don’t think Lance is going anywhere 

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