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  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,256
    Can someone explain, after three loans now, why we didn't sell him. We have sold Pope, JBG and Cousins. There has been an ongoing desperation at the Valley since christmas for TW to be elswhere. So why not raise some cash and sell him?
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    I think they would if clubs (that he would sign for) were offering to buy him but there are still a few question marks over the lad.

    Cardiff liked what they saw but got hit with a transfer embargo, Blackburn I believe had first refusal and Coyle hadn't been overly impressed
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    Can he play for a fourth team in a year?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    guinnessaddick said:

    Can he play for a fourth team in a year?

    He can do - think the rule about a number of clubs is only during the season.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I presume that nobody wants to buy him! He needs a fantastic season and somebody will. But surely we need one or two players who might elevate us in the division we find ourselves. Watt would certainly have been one of those players!
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,867
    I wonder weather we have to pay Standard any more if he makes a certain amount of appearances or goals scored, also could be some kind of selling fee back to them, which would explain why it's always loans.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    Charlton_Stu said:

    I wonder weather we have to pay Standard any more if he makes a certain amount of appearances or goals scored, also could be some kind of selling fee back to them, which would explain why it's always loans.

    Unless they are getting 100% of the fee, the club would be off selling him (not that I want to see him go) as when his contract is finished, he can walk away for free.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,146
    Agreed.... Wasnt interested in us
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,867
    guinnessaddick said:

    Charlton_Stu said:

    I wonder weather we have to pay Standard any more if he makes a certain amount of appearances or goals scored, also could be some kind of selling fee back to them, which would explain why it's always loans.

    Unless they are getting 100% of the fee, the club would be off selling him (not that I want to see him go) as when his contract is finished, he can walk away for free.
    Wouldn't surprise me with these clowns in charge.
  • ateamofcorygibbs
    ateamofcorygibbs Posts: 1,193
    KiwiValley said:

    You're fcking kidding me Hearts are my other team...

    Ha. Mine's Hibs...
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  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503
    ken_shabby said:

    Can someone explain, after three loans now, why we didn't sell him. We have sold Pope, JBG and Cousins. There has been an ongoing desperation at the Valley since christmas for TW to be elswhere. So why not raise some cash and sell him?

    Perhaps nobody was prepared to offer him a lengthy contract on his terms. Given his history, it would be a brave decision to tie him up for say three years on big money (and to pay a fee for him too).

    In my view, TW has been the most exciting player to have played at The Valley since Simonsen or Mortimer but he definitely wasn't up for it last season.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,447
    Tony Watt is incredibly overrated - yes he is capable of brilliance but most of the time is a liability. Will he ever fulfil his potential?
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,867
    Simonsen said:

    ken_shabby said:

    Can someone explain, after three loans now, why we didn't sell him. We have sold Pope, JBG and Cousins. There has been an ongoing desperation at the Valley since christmas for TW to be elswhere. So why not raise some cash and sell him?

    Perhaps nobody was prepared to offer him a lengthy contract on his terms. Given his history, it would be a brave decision to tie him up for say three years on big money (and to pay a fee for him too).

    In my view, TW has been the most exciting player to have played at The Valley since Simonsen or Mortimer but he definitely wasn't up for it last season.
    I would put Ricardo Fuller in that bracket, when he played.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    Out of (a very minor) interest, does anyone know what his girlfriend does? It'd seem very odd for a professional footballer to move clubs to be near his WAG. Don't they usually just follow the footballer?
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    guinnessaddick said:

    Charlton_Stu said:

    I wonder weather we have to pay Standard any more if he makes a certain amount of appearances or goals scored, also could be some kind of selling fee back to them, which would explain why it's always loans.

    Unless they are getting 100% of the fee, the club would be off selling him (not that I want to see him go) as when his contract is finished, he can walk away for free.
    If we're whoring him around to anyone that will pay some, but not all, of his wages then surely allowing him to leave for free would be desirable to us. At least as soon as he 'walks away for free' we won't be subsidising his wages any more or paying him when he's injured, not fit or during the close season.

    Those running out club are so incompetent they couldn't buy a fiver for less than six quid and then they wouldn't be able to sell it for four pounds a year later.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Out of (a very minor) interest, does anyone know what his girlfriend does? It'd seem very odd for a professional footballer to move clubs to be near his WAG. Don't they usually just follow the footballer?

    Still at University maybe...?

    Know what you mean but could be the type who wants to forge a career for themselves in case he ever pisses off
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Out of (a very minor) interest, does anyone know what his girlfriend does? It'd seem very odd for a professional footballer to move clubs to be near his WAG. Don't they usually just follow the footballer?

    I'll ask her later ;-))
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Having his medical as I type and will be unveiled tonight assuming there are no hickups with the medical :smiley:
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    LargeAddick said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Out of (a very minor) interest, does anyone know what his girlfriend does? It'd seem very odd for a professional footballer to move clubs to be near his WAG. Don't they usually just follow the footballer?

    I'll ask her later ;-))
    You're seeing her later? Hooker then?
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Today I learned that Hearts' Twitter handle is @jamtarts
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  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    cafcdave123 said:

    Having his medical as I type and will be unveiled tonight assuming there are no hickups with the medical :smiley:

    :smiley:
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Guardian article
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Chizz said:

    Guardian article

    Interesting article , he's not going to change clearly, he seems to have followed the same pattern where ever he has played. I think with managers should give up on trying to change and just embrace the way he is
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    CH4RLTON said:

    Chizz said:

    Guardian article

    Interesting article , he's not going to change clearly, he seems to have followed the same pattern where ever he has played. I think with managers should give up on trying to change and just embrace the way he is
    But then he isn't good enough for most teams to build their tactics around him, if he just wants to do his trickery in areas of the pitch which cause little damage to the opposition
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    Funny that the quote from a manager claiming to know how to handle him is from Russell Slade. Wonder why he couldn't apply such excellent striker coaching skills to Ajose
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    edited November 2016
    Here's an extract from the article I wrote about Watt for the first issue of Nutmeg Magazine:

    castrust.org/2016/11/614885/

    Print edition of first issue sold out but further info and subscriptions for Issue Two (plus digital download of first) available here:
    https://nutmegmagazine.co.uk/
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Garrymanilow said:

    Funny that the quote from a manager claiming to know how to handle him is from Russell Slade. Wonder why he couldn't apply such excellent striker coaching skills to Ajose

    Slade took Watt to his favourite pie shop, and they got on like a house on fire!
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Garrymanilow said:

    Funny that the quote from a manager claiming to know how to handle him is from Russell Slade. Wonder why he couldn't apply such excellent striker coaching skills to Ajose

    To be fair Ajose is a different person, but I was wondering why he couldn't seemingly get more of Watt himself (though I admit if Watt was struggling to settle there may have been nothing Slade could have done).
  • No.1 in South London
    No.1 in South London Posts: 3,961
    on his way to on his way to Salford City
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    No.1 in South London said:
    on his way to on his way to Salford City
    Eh?!

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