loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
the team that season was weaker than the team that got promoted out of league one. That's an undeniable fact with the likes of wagstaff, haynes etc having left on a free transfer. So we were always going to struggle, add to the fact we had something like 4 games in hand on everyone else, that's easily at least 4 or 5 points in itself that season.
I know you think you're clever by being a contrarian but you really are being the opposite now.
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
the team that season was weaker than the team that got promoted out of league one. That's an undeniable fact with the likes of wagstaff, haynes etc having left on a free transfer. So we were always going to struggle, add to the fact we had something like 4 games in hand on everyone else, that's easily at least 4 or 5 points in itself that season.
I know you think you're clever by being a contrarian but you really are being the opposite now.
@colin1961, hope you and RD/KM enjoy holding hands in the Directors box next season in front of a team of kids, journeymen, and has-beens playing in front of 2000 customers, and those watching from their flats above the paltry JS stand. Enjoy mate!
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
the team that season was weaker than the team that got promoted out of league one. That's an undeniable fact with the likes of wagstaff, haynes etc having left on a free transfer. So we were always going to struggle, add to the fact we had something like 4 games in hand on everyone else, that's easily at least 4 or 5 points in itself that season.
I know you think you're clever by being a contrarian but you really are being the opposite now.
Do not feed the troll!!!!!!!!
i probably have even less to do than colin today so i really don't mind having fun by poking an idiot.
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
Remind me of the forward options alongside Kermorgant through the autumn again - Church, Sordell and 17-year-old Ahearne Grant, wasn't it? And Yann had been injured and missing for two months. We went bottom the day before the FA Cup quarter final only because the spivs had already undermined the squad and Powell had still managed a cup run. It's unlikely we would ever have been bottom but for the postponed matches. We went into Riga's first match with five games in hand on the teams in 20th and 21st place, one of which - Doncaster - was eventually relegated. But whatever his merits as a manager, your hatred of Powell is absurd.
For me, Powell's limitations might have been about being a bit too cautious in game, and I accept I could be wrong on that – it is all about opinions. But that he was an excellent manager in terms of his team building, planning and general relationship with players and fans is beyond doubt IMHO. What he did, in changing a whole team to get us promoted was exceptional and he didn’t do it with the largest budget in the division as some claim. A large part of it was done using money from the Jenkinson deal too.
The bloke is a bona fide Charlton legend and a Curbishley./Powell dream team (Director of Football/Manager) would be paradise for me. Both understand the club better than anyone.
What he said about the owner identifying our weakest players says it all really. The idiot Duchatelet could have at least tried to work out what Powell could do with a modicum of backing, instead of undermining him from the beginning. It is amazing how such a fool could be so rich, although because you are good at making money, it doesn’t mean the rest of you is up to scratch. Look at Donald Trump!
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
I think that's a fare enough statement for a new owner of a club, which finished the previous season just a few points off the play offs, to make. Onwards and upwards and all that. I'm absolutely sure there are and were better players than we had in those positions. Unfortunately we all know this didn't pan out quite the way any of us liked.
I know same about brain surgery as RD knows about football. The real difference between us is, money. People with money sometimes think they are all knowing because they have been successful in one field but fail to realise that their success in life were not all down to their own perceived level of intelligence and their skills do not transfer into others business and jobs. Its also, to my mind, a very arrogant opinion to hold. Whether they like it or not, luck, chance and whatever play a huge role in success. Thurman, (more than most), and other signings proves this point.
Of course there were/are better players but Solly and Yann were our best two players in the League One title winning season and the following year in the Championship. They were the last players we needed to improve on.
If the squad was strengthened in the right way they could have been part of a Championship promotion winning team. Yann of course went on to prove that at Bournemouth.
For me, Powell's limitations might have been about being a bit too cautious in game, and I accept I could be wrong on that – it is all about opinions. But that he was an excellent manager in terms of his team building, planning and general relationship with players and fans is beyond doubt IMHO. What he did, in changing a whole team to get us promoted was exceptional and he didn’t do it with the largest budget in the division as some claim. A large part of it was done using money from the Jenkinson deal too.
The bloke is a bona fide Charlton legend and a Curbishley./Powell dream team (Director of Football/Manager) would be paradise for me. Both understand the club better than anyone.
What he said about the owner identifying our weakest players says it all really. The idiot Duchatelet could have at least tried to work out what Powell could do with a modicum of backing, instead of undermining him from the beginning. It is amazing how such a fool could be so rich, although because you are good at making money, it doesn’t mean the rest of you is up to scratch. Look at Donald Trump!
Trump is worth around $billion, so you'd think that was because he's good at making money. However, he inherited $7billion from mummy and daddy and has been bankrupt a number of times. So his one claim to an sort of success (rich businessman) is despite what he's done, not because of it.
Yes, when you have money, it is easier to make money. Although, I don't know Duchatelet's story. To be honest, I don't care. I know he knows nothing about football - that is pretty clear to all of us.
There has to be a place in football for the likes of Chris Powell. dignity--- honesty--- integrity sorry Chris those three personality traits arnt wanted in today's game.
For me, Powell's limitations might have been about being a bit too cautious in game, and I accept I could be wrong on that – it is all about opinions. But that he was an excellent manager in terms of his team building, planning and general relationship with players and fans is beyond doubt IMHO. What he did, in changing a whole team to get us promoted was exceptional and he didn’t do it with the largest budget in the division as some claim. A large part of it was done using money from the Jenkinson deal too.
The bloke is a bona fide Charlton legend and a Curbishley./Powell dream team (Director of Football/Manager) would be paradise for me. Both understand the club better than anyone.
What he said about the owner identifying our weakest players says it all really. The idiot Duchatelet could have at least tried to work out what Powell could do with a modicum of backing, instead of undermining him from the beginning. It is amazing how such a fool could be so rich, although because you are good at making money, it doesn’t mean the rest of you is up to scratch. Look at Donald Trump!
Cautious yes but he built a team to win promotion from League One and compete in the Championship. He never got the chance to build on that.
You don't play exciting attacking football in the Championship when your wingers are the likes of Green/Wagstaff, Stephens is the closest you have to a playmaker and Yann is your only higher end Championship striker.
Think what he might have done with that squad plus players like JBG, Bulot and Watt. Hopefully within a few years he might get that chance.
There has to be a place in football for the likes of Chris Powell. dignity--- honesty--- integrity sorry Chris those three personality traits arnt wanted in today's game.
Fantastic chat with the guys, and the Charlton talk just confirmed what we knew, but we heard it from Chris and not Alex Dyer or through a third party. Not sure about the we would of stayed up because we had games in hand ? We have been quite good had losing 3 games in a week, or 1 point from 9 at best. and that was such a weak squad as was highlighted by the United QF defeat.
As shocking as this regime is, in telling a Manager about who they should pick, when the TJ and Slater lost their cash man, CP was already on the ropes with no money left. To then have that compounded by the nonsense of Duchatelet thinking he knew more about Football than Powell, is surrealism that Samuel Beckett would've be proud of.
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
Chris Powell was sacked on 11 March 2014... Going by the above link where does it say we were bottom of the table, the lowest we were with Chris Powell was 22nd in the table... the following match (which was Jose Riga's first in charge) was a 0-0 result which put us bottom of the table for the sole game that season!!
Now look at the above link... this is the League table after the Leicester City match (Chris Powell's last league game in charge), you'll notice that we were in the relegation zone by a single point with THREE games in hand (thats nine points). Had we crashed straight out of the FA Cup and if we not had our issues with the pitch, Chris Powell would have left us no where near the relegation zone.
The fact we'd just beaten Queens Park Rangers at home, followed by losing to Leicester City (the eventual winners of the League) is ludicrous to say that Powell wouldn't have got us out of the mess we found ourselves in, for those with ANY doubt should look at the highlights from that QPR match!!
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
Your heads so far up Roland's ass that you're confusing his colon with a brain.
I could go over everything everyone has said to you on this thread, on the transfer thread or any other number of threads but it wouldn't make a bit of difference because you. You clearly lack the capacity for individual thought away from the Roland mothership.
Powell was never perfect, but he's better than any of the "interims" we had. I'm not confusing the man and the manager, his first management gig went pretty well until this regime turned up/the others ran out of Cash though.
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to block this twat?
For me, Powell's limitations might have been about being a bit too cautious in game, and I accept I could be wrong on that – it is all about opinions. But that he was an excellent manager in terms of his team building, planning and general relationship with players and fans is beyond doubt IMHO. What he did, in changing a whole team to get us promoted was exceptional and he didn’t do it with the largest budget in the division as some claim. A large part of it was done using money from the Jenkinson deal too.
The bloke is a bona fide Charlton legend and a Curbishley./Powell dream team (Director of Football/Manager) would be paradise for me. Both understand the club better than anyone.
What he said about the owner identifying our weakest players says it all really. The idiot Duchatelet could have at least tried to work out what Powell could do with a modicum of backing, instead of undermining him from the beginning. It is amazing how such a fool could be so rich, although because you are good at making money, it doesn’t mean the rest of you is up to scratch. Look at Donald Trump!
Trump is worth around $billion, so you'd think that was because he's good at making money. However, he inherited $7billion from mummy and daddy and has been bankrupt a number of times. So his one claim to an sort of success (rich businessman) is despite what he's done, not because of it.
not to get too sidetracked but trump structured his business dealings in such a way that when it went tits up and his businesses went bankrupt, it was some one else who picked up the tab, not him (watch the recent trump documentary on All 4 if you can). Duchatelet is doing the same by putting all the debt on charlton to staprix or him personally, with interest. It's not in duchatelet's interest to run the club down, but it is in his interest to own the club for a few years, then sell it and get his loans back with added interest. That's the real way he wants to make money, if the club becomes economically self sufficient in the medium term then that's fine, preferable, even; he's still earning interest on his loans.
loved listening to it last night but it really annoys me, I honestly think if the spivs had not of run out of money Powell would have taken us places, we had such a good feeling around the place and with a couple of signings like who was being mentioned it would of really been a top 6 challenger I am sure.
I cant move on.
Yeah div one
You know what colin, for once can you just shut the hell up?
Powell had us 9th in the championship the one season he had funding in this league. His merits and limitations have been discussed to death so I'm not going to re-hash them here.
Now look at ALL the managers your beloved Roland and Katrien have brought in, has a single one of them come close to finishing 9th?
And div one is the championship you moron. Maybe you meant LEAGUE ONE but the only people taking us in that direction are Roland and Katrien.
Powell clearly still loves this club, I want to think you do as well but you seem to be clouded by your love of everything RD and KM do.
Take off the rose tinted glasses and take a proper look at the club. Things are falling apart and the Roland personality cult you've bought into is not going to fix things. They just want to sweep the problems under the rug.
Wake up or shut up.
He had the likes of Solly , Stephens , Kermit , Hamer for 5 months that season and we were still bottom ...? So let's not be taken in by the poor Powell act .. He knew Stephens and Kermit was leaving in Jan because the previous owners said they could not afford to offer them new deals the previous summer..... So you need to wake up , nd don't get Powell the man mixed up with Powell the manager
Your heads so far up Roland's ass that you're confusing his colon with a brain.
I could go over everything everyone has said to you on this thread, on the transfer thread or any other number of threads but it wouldn't make a bit of difference because you. You clearly lack the capacity for individual thought away from the Roland mothership.
Powell was never perfect, but he's better than any of the "interims" we had. I'm not confusing the man and the manager, his first management gig went pretty well until this regime turned up/the others ran out of Cash though.
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to block this twat?
Yeah we protest against the Mods for not giving him a ban...
Does anyone know where @AFKABartram and @LoOkOuT live so we can go stand outside for a few hours chanting?
I think that's a fare enough statement for a new owner of a club, which finished the previous season just a few points off the play offs, to make. Onwards and upwards and all that. I'm absolutely sure there are and were better players than we had in those positions. Unfortunately we all know this didn't pan out quite the way any of us liked.
I know same about brain surgery as RD knows about football. The real difference between us is, money. People with money sometimes think they are all knowing because they have been successful in one field but fail to realise that their success in life were not all down to their own perceived level of intelligence and their skills do not transfer into others business and jobs. Its also, to my mind, a very arrogant opinion to hold. Whether they like it or not, luck, chance and whatever play a huge role in success. Thurman, (more than most), and other signings proves this point.
Of course there were/are better players but Solly and Yann were our best two players in the League One title winning season and the following year in the Championship. They were the last players we needed to improve on.
If the squad was strengthened in the right way they could have been part of a Championship promotion winning team. Yann of course went on to prove that at Bournemouth.
This is, for me, one of the biggest "WTF"s about that whole situation.
Defensively you have to give Powell some credit - he valued the importance of a rock solid defence and that is why we had a defence that was better than our attack; we were toothless. Yann was a great player, but he's not a traditional striker - he's a skillful player who uses his physicalities to battle for the ball and supply other strikers; think of his partnership with BWP. He is not an out-and-out goalscoring striker though.
So who does Roland focus on? Our 3 best players, two key ones from our defence (Solly and Wiggins) and Kermorgant. No mention of getting in proper wingers or a decent partner for Yann - no singling out of Church, Sordell or Green? Three players of the top of my head who were around the starting 11 that season, and coincidentally, 2 of which are now in L1/L2.
I can't really believe he would've bought a football club for £20,000,000 and not had the team assessed properly prior to purchase. Then again, I can't believe that he would pick our 3 strongest players as the ones that need replacing.
Surely things couldn't have been that utterly nonsensical at the time? There's absolutely no logic to it.
I think that's a fare enough statement for a new owner of a club, which finished the previous season just a few points off the play offs, to make. Onwards and upwards and all that. I'm absolutely sure there are and were better players than we had in those positions. Unfortunately we all know this didn't pan out quite the way any of us liked.
I know same about brain surgery as RD knows about football. The real difference between us is, money. People with money sometimes think they are all knowing because they have been successful in one field but fail to realise that their success in life were not all down to their own perceived level of intelligence and their skills do not transfer into others business and jobs. Its also, to my mind, a very arrogant opinion to hold. Whether they like it or not, luck, chance and whatever play a huge role in success. Thurman, (more than most), and other signings proves this point.
Of course there were/are better players but Solly and Yann were our best two players in the League One title winning season and the following year in the Championship. They were the last players we needed to improve on.
If the squad was strengthened in the right way they could have been part of a Championship promotion winning team. Yann of course went on to prove that at Bournemouth.
This is, for me, one of the biggest "WTF"s about that whole situation.
Defensively you have to give Powell some credit - he valued the importance of a rock solid defence and that is why we had a defence that was better than our attack; we were toothless. Yann was a great player, but he's not a traditional striker - he's a skillful player who uses his physicalities to battle for the ball and supply other strikers; think of his partnership with BWP. He is not an out-and-out goalscoring striker though.
So who does Roland focus on? Our 3 best players, two key ones from our defence (Solly and Wiggins) and Kermorgant. No mention of getting in proper wingers or a decent partner for Yann - no singling out of Church, Sordell or Green? Three players of the top of my head who were around the starting 11 that season, and coincidentally, 2 of which are now in L1/L2.
I can't really believe he would've bought a football club for £20,000,000 and not had the team assessed properly prior to purchase. Then again, I can't believe that he would pick our 3 strongest players as the ones that need replacing.
Surely things couldn't have been that utterly nonsensical at the time? There's absolutely no logic to it.
Good point... Especially when you look at other players in the squad at the time, and who they joined...
For me, Powell's limitations might have been about being a bit too cautious in game, and I accept I could be wrong on that – it is all about opinions. But that he was an excellent manager in terms of his team building, planning and general relationship with players and fans is beyond doubt IMHO. What he did, in changing a whole team to get us promoted was exceptional and he didn’t do it with the largest budget in the division as some claim. A large part of it was done using money from the Jenkinson deal too.
The bloke is a bona fide Charlton legend and a Curbishley./Powell dream team (Director of Football/Manager) would be paradise for me. Both understand the club better than anyone.
What he said about the owner identifying our weakest players says it all really. The idiot Duchatelet could have at least tried to work out what Powell could do with a modicum of backing, instead of undermining him from the beginning. It is amazing how such a fool could be so rich, although because you are good at making money, it doesn’t mean the rest of you is up to scratch. Look at Donald Trump!
Trump is worth around $billion, so you'd think that was because he's good at making money. However, he inherited $7billion from mummy and daddy and has been bankrupt a number of times. So his one claim to an sort of success (rich businessman) is despite what he's done, not because of it.
not to get too sidetracked but trump structured his business dealings in such a way that when it went tits up and his businesses went bankrupt, it was some one else who picked up the tab, not him (watch the recent trump documentary on All 4 if you can). Duchatelet is doing the same by putting all the debt on charlton to staprix or him personally, with interest. It's not in duchatelet's interest to run the club down, but it is in his interest to own the club for a few years, then sell it and get his loans back with added interest. That's the real way he wants to make money, if the club becomes economically self sufficient in the medium term then that's fine, preferable, even; he's still earning interest on his loans.
This is the thing that gets my goat. We constantly hear from the regime about his "investment" in the club, and it is investment, like in stocks and shares. We're part of his pension plan, he's loading debt on the club, with interest, that he will expect to be repaid by whoever takes over the shambles....
If it was me, having won the Euromillions, I'd keep Katrien on the payroll and make her work in catering outlets.
So who does Roland focus on? Our 3 best players, two key ones from our defence (Solly and Wiggins) and Kermorgant. No mention of getting in proper wingers or a decent partner for Yann - no singling out of Church, Sordell or Green? Three players of the top of my head who were around the starting 11 that season, and coincidentally, 2 of which are now in L1/L2.
I can't really believe he would've bought a football club for £20,000,000 and not had the team assessed properly prior to purchase. Then again, I can't believe that he would pick our 3 strongest players as the ones that need replacing.
Surely things couldn't have been that utterly nonsensical at the time? There's absolutely no logic to it.
Because you are applying "normal" logic. But Roland is rich and eccentric and has some kind of ego-complex. It made total logical sense to him to stamp his authority on the club from the off. He's wasn't interested in Charlton whatsoever, just an available club in a desperate situation. He didn't value anything to do with the club from the off. In fact, in order to get off on the right foot, what better way than to call the manager in and tell him you're going to replace his best players with players of your own?
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I know you think you're clever by being a contrarian but you really are being the opposite now.
The bloke is a bona fide Charlton legend and a Curbishley./Powell dream team (Director of Football/Manager) would be paradise for me. Both understand the club better than anyone.
What he said about the owner identifying our weakest players says it all really. The idiot Duchatelet could have at least tried to work out what Powell could do with a modicum of backing, instead of undermining him from the beginning. It is amazing how such a fool could be so rich, although because you are good at making money, it doesn’t mean the rest of you is up to scratch. Look at Donald Trump!
If the squad was strengthened in the right way they could have been part of a Championship promotion winning team. Yann of course went on to prove that at Bournemouth.
dignity--- honesty--- integrity sorry Chris those three personality traits arnt wanted in today's game.
You don't play exciting attacking football in the Championship when your wingers are the likes of Green/Wagstaff, Stephens is the closest you have to a playmaker and Yann is your only higher end Championship striker.
Think what he might have done with that squad plus players like JBG, Bulot and Watt. Hopefully within a few years he might get that chance.
Not sure about the we would of stayed up because we had games in hand ?
We have been quite good had losing 3 games in a week, or 1 point from 9 at best. and that was such a weak squad as was highlighted by the United QF defeat.
As shocking as this regime is, in telling a Manager about who they should pick, when the TJ and Slater lost their cash man, CP was already on the ropes with no money left. To then have that compounded by the nonsense of Duchatelet thinking he knew more about Football than Powell, is surrealism that Samuel Beckett would've be proud of.
Chris Powell was sacked on 11 March 2014... Going by the above link where does it say we were bottom of the table, the lowest we were with Chris Powell was 22nd in the table... the following match (which was Jose Riga's first in charge) was a 0-0 result which put us bottom of the table for the sole game that season!!
http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2013-2014/table/2014-03-01
Now look at the above link... this is the League table after the Leicester City match (Chris Powell's last league game in charge), you'll notice that we were in the relegation zone by a single point with THREE games in hand (thats nine points). Had we crashed straight out of the FA Cup and if we not had our issues with the pitch, Chris Powell would have left us no where near the relegation zone.
The fact we'd just beaten Queens Park Rangers at home, followed by losing to Leicester City (the eventual winners of the League) is ludicrous to say that Powell wouldn't have got us out of the mess we found ourselves in, for those with ANY doubt should look at the highlights from that QPR match!!
I could go over everything everyone has said to you on this thread, on the transfer thread or any other number of threads but it wouldn't make a bit of difference because you. You clearly lack the capacity for individual thought away from the Roland mothership.
Powell was never perfect, but he's better than any of the "interims" we had. I'm not confusing the man and the manager, his first management gig went pretty well until this regime turned up/the others ran out of Cash though.
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to block this twat?
Does anyone know where @AFKABartram and @LoOkOuT live so we can go stand outside for a few hours chanting?
This is, for me, one of the biggest "WTF"s about that whole situation.
Defensively you have to give Powell some credit - he valued the importance of a rock solid defence and that is why we had a defence that was better than our attack; we were toothless. Yann was a great player, but he's not a traditional striker - he's a skillful player who uses his physicalities to battle for the ball and supply other strikers; think of his partnership with BWP. He is not an out-and-out goalscoring striker though.
So who does Roland focus on? Our 3 best players, two key ones from our defence (Solly and Wiggins) and Kermorgant. No mention of getting in proper wingers or a decent partner for Yann - no singling out of Church, Sordell or Green? Three players of the top of my head who were around the starting 11 that season, and coincidentally, 2 of which are now in L1/L2.
I can't really believe he would've bought a football club for £20,000,000 and not had the team assessed properly prior to purchase. Then again, I can't believe that he would pick our 3 strongest players as the ones that need replacing.
Surely things couldn't have been that utterly nonsensical at the time? There's absolutely no logic to it.
Evina (Doncaster) .. Green (Luton) .. Sordell (Colchester) .. Obika (Swindon) .. Pritchard (Leyton Orient) .. Wood (Chesterfield) .. Wilson (Peterborough)
From the list of players that werent good enough, we made strange choices in getting rid of which ones!!
If it was me, having won the Euromillions, I'd keep Katrien on the payroll and make her work in catering outlets.