April Fans Forum - MINUTES ON PAGE 11
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disgusting behaviour in west stand, stewards attacked with balloons, threatening behaviour, Sue and Mandy upset, etc etc
Murray will nod.
Seen worse behaviour in a McDonalds pre school party for under 5s,....... those balloons really must be dreaded by those stewards.
Rather bored by the indignation and sycophantic sucking up, albeit they are employees.
The bottom line is that they have failed, and failed on every level.
Putting on a veneer of warm word's and platitudes, does not cut it for me, and i feel the vast majority of fans.
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I'm a very misunderstood person at the best of times @eaststandmike
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Sorry, had to change that...seth plum said:Katrien is on record at the last fans forum meeting that there are weekly enquiries to buy the club.
Rolands famous statement says not.
Don't ask for an updated situation report regarding buyers, simply ask Katrien whether we are to believe what she says, or what Roland says when he comes out with the opposite.
Ask why Mel Baroni left after 46 days.
Ask her why decent calm gentle fans like me can't attend football matches at the Valley, without my day beingabsolutely ruinedimproved by disruption and protest.4 -
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.0 -
And most of that home crowd are only turning up to attend the protests.mogodon said:
Given attendances of late (actual not season-ticket inflated), I would say 5000 is over half the home crowd.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"1 -
You're not going to be there after your MoM performance last time?rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.9 -
I'm desperately hoping some one as competent as you were in the last FF will be going in your stead? Was brilliant watching you make Katrien squirm and shake her head when you calmly and respectfully put your points across.rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.7 -
Ask how the serious investigation into resigngate is getting on.9
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Will Mandy be there, can we ask her if she thinks we will stay up?10
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Acknowledge their admission that mistakes had been made, but ask her to list what she thinks have been mistakes and what (if any) have been good decisions this season.
Interesting to see if her list tallys with mine6 - Sponsored links:
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Murray would like to be on top.LargeAddick said:
Katrien in the middle, Dickie on top?Airman Brown said:
Setting up the strategy committee announced in November, talking to British football staff, exciting signings in the summer, Roland here for the long term, all decisions correct, setting light to the fans' sofa in the centre circle at the end of the last match . . .kentred2 said:Expect Miere to come out on front foot this evening after weekend events. Police investigations, bans, disgusting behaviour in west stand, stewards attacked with balloons, threatening behaviour, Sue and Mandy upset, etc etc
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Ask why Katrien's salary is not declared in the club's statutory accounts in contravention of UK Company Law - as a lawyer KM deserves at least one question in her area of expertise.!13
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Ask why Mel Baroni left?7
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Read out Glassfloors comments on management at Melexis (on a previous thread) and then ask if any of these features are common to Charlton - and then watch who smirks among the staff present.2
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Oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :-(rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.0 -
Don't worry, I hear that Sue Parkes will be taking his place and will be honest and frank ;-)Sam lloyd said:
Oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :-(rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.9 -
Rikofold
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space........
No substitutions? I'm sure you'd only get 500 volunteers!
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Seriously who is attending who we can trust to hold her to account or is trust not attending on principle? Either way someone should attend.2
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Question for KM.
How many current sponsors have committed to sponsoring the club next season. Have sponsors been easy to come by after such an abysmal3 -
Can someone ask Meire why the board won't appoint an experienced manager/Why Fraeye was appointed? She never gets asked this, and instead has to listen to middle aged men crying "I want my Charlton back" (which means absolutely nothing).
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I asked this question of the rep that deals with the agenda & minutes and 4 days ago he responded that he had asked but no definitive answer had been given thus far...Leeds_Addick said:Is it being live streamed like the previous one?
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Or as a related party transaction if paid elsewhere. And why much of the interest charged to Baton is not shown as interest in the CAFC Limited accounts.sm said:Ask why Katrien's salary is not declared in the club's statutory accounts in contravention of UK Company Law - as a lawyer KM deserves at least one question in her area of expertise.!
Are these amounts included in the FFP submission to the League or is the club concealing them from the League and if so how can this be justified?
Questions for you, David Joyes, and we'll keep on asking them.19 -
Any chance we can see a copy of the agenda before the meeting?0
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That's disappointing to hear if I'm honest. I was impressed with your performance in the last two recorded meetings, I hope the Trust are sending someone in your stead that will not shy away from giving them a hard time.rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.7 -
Only person posing difficult questions last time who wasn't bullied out of asking them so disappointing indeed!WestCountryAddick said:
That's disappointing to hear if I'm honest. I was impressed with your performance in the last two recorded meetings, I hope the Trust are sending someone in your stead that will not shy away from giving them a hard time.rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.6 -
So disrespectful to Syd ...moutuakilla said:
Only person posing difficult questions last time who wasn't bullied out of asking them so disappointing indeed!WestCountryAddick said:
That's disappointing to hear if I'm honest. I was impressed with your performance in the last two recorded meetings, I hope the Trust are sending someone in your stead that will not shy away from giving them a hard time.rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.14 -
Given the amount of incompetent staff who attend these meetings should it not be re-named April Fools Forum ? #justasuggestion0
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If this is the person that got the hand-dryers sorted then I stand correctedAirman Brown said:
So disrespectful to Syd ...moutuakilla said:
Only person posing difficult questions last time who wasn't bullied out of asking them so disappointing indeed!WestCountryAddick said:
That's disappointing to hear if I'm honest. I was impressed with your performance in the last two recorded meetings, I hope the Trust are sending someone in your stead that will not shy away from giving them a hard time.rikofold said:
Well I won't be there, but the agenda looks interesting so watch this space.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed but i'd like to think @rikofold and the rest go in a bit harder this time.Mackle said:I hope a question about the scale of the numbers involved in protests is asked. 5000 people marching at the last match, that's around a quarter of the home support.
Something like "in light of previous comments by the CEO and non-Executive Chairman, does the club still believe that only 2% of fans are dissatisfied and that its down to Internet message boards?"
It's no longer time to hear what they say, it's time to get rid of them and that message has to be loud and clear.5 -
Airman Brown said:
Or as a related party transaction if paid elsewhere. And why much of the interest charged to Baton is not shown as interest in the CAFC Limited accounts.sm said:Ask why Katrien's salary is not declared in the club's statutory accounts in contravention of UK Company Law - as a lawyer KM deserves at least one question in her area of expertise.!
Are these amounts included in the FFP submission to the League or is the club concealing them from the League and if so how can this be justified?
Questions for you, David Joyes, and we'll keep on asking them.
No even if the emoluments are paid elsewhere and one of the directors (RD/KM) knows the details then it has to be disclosed under the Companies Acts requirements - directors deliberately concealing information would make the offence even worse - I give relevant details below with the more relevant points highlightedAirman Brown said:
Or as a related party transaction if paid elsewhere. And why much of the interest charged to Baton is not shown as interest in the CAFC Limited accounts.sm said:Ask why Katrien's salary is not declared in the club's statutory accounts in contravention of UK Company Law - as a lawyer KM deserves at least one question in her area of expertise.!
Are these amounts included in the FFP submission to the League or is the club concealing them from the League and if so how can this be justified?
Questions for you, David Joyes, and we'll keep on asking them.
From Schedule 5 - The Large and Medium-sized Companies and Groups (Accounts and Reports) Regulations 2008
5.—(1) There must be shown the aggregate amount of any consideration paid to or receivable by third parties for making available the services of any person—
(a)as a director of the company, or
(b)while director of the company—
(i)as director of any of its subsidiary undertakings, or
(ii)otherwise in connection with the management of the affairs of the company or any of its subsidiary undertakings.
(2) In sub-paragraph (1)—
(a)the reference to consideration includes benefits otherwise than in cash, and
(b)in relation to such consideration the reference to its amount is to the estimated money value of the benefit.
The nature of any such consideration must be disclosed.
(3) For the purposes of this paragraph a “third party” means a person other than—
(a)the director himself or a person connected with him or a body corporate controlled by him, or
(b)the company or any of its subsidiary undertakings.
General nature of obligations
6.—(1) This Schedule requires information to be given only so far as it is contained in the company’s books and papers or the company has the right to obtain it from the persons concerned.
(2) For the purposes of this Schedule any information is treated as shown if it is capable of being readily ascertained from other information which is shown.
Provisions as to amounts to be shown
7.—(1) The following provisions apply with respect to the amounts to be shown under this Schedule.
(2) The amount in each case includes all relevant sums, whether paid by or receivable from the company, any of the company’s subsidiary undertakings or any other person.
(3) References to amounts paid to or receivable by a person include amounts paid to or receivable by a person connected with him or a body corporate controlled by him (but not so as to require an amount to be counted twice).
(4) Except as otherwise provided, the amounts to be shown for any financial year are—
(a)the sums receivable in respect of that year (whenever paid), or
(b)in the case of sums not receivable in respect of a period, the sums paid during that year.
(5) Sums paid by way of expenses allowance that are charged to United Kingdom income tax after the end of the relevant financial year must be shown in a note to the first accounts in which it is practicable to show them and must be distinguished from the amounts to be shown apart from this provision.
(6) Where it is necessary to do so for the purpose of making any distinction required in complying with this Schedule, the directors may apportion payments between the matters in respect of which they have been paid or are receivable in such manner as they think appropriate.
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As I have said before it needs someone strong there to insist on actual answers, not waffle. I fear that the same will happen as last time in that when the going gets a little tough for her Mick Everitt will just step in and move on to the next item..... Please don't let her off the hook so easily this time.7
