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  • Coyotejohn1947
    Coyotejohn1947 Posts: 1,163
    The Red Robin said:

    HarryLime said:

    Ask why they feel it is necessary to lock the gates of the Valley, whenever RD visits.

    Ask her if she understands the historic connotations that action alone carries.
    She doesn't care about the history of the club so she would never ever come close to understanding this or seemingly anything else connected with Charlton other than a stubborn willingness to continue on her own misguided path oblivious to the enormous damage she has inflicted across all areas of the Club.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,055
    Airman Brown said:

    sm said:

    A serious breach of the Companies Act 2006 would mean failure of the fit and proper test if the Football League were to follow its own rules

    http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/appendix3.aspx

    Remember they got Al Capone for tax evasion.

    I'm happy to defer to anyone with professional knowledge on this, and I have been working with others with that background. That was the source of the related party transaction comment.

    There are also questions about potential benefits being received by Meire such as accommodation costs and whether these are being declared for tax purposes. I don't really care what she is being paid, but I want to discover if what is being done to remunerate her is lawful and whether it complies with FFP rules.
    Something for Mark Kleinman & the guys at CityAM to have a look at?
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    sm said:

    Airman Brown said:

    sm said:

    Ask why Katrien's salary is not declared in the club's statutory accounts in contravention of UK Company Law - as a lawyer KM deserves at least one question in her area of expertise.!

    Or as a related party transaction if paid elsewhere. And why much of the interest charged to Baton is not shown as interest in the CAFC Limited accounts.

    Are these amounts included in the FFP submission to the League or is the club concealing them from the League and if so how can this be justified?

    Questions for you, David Joyes, and we'll keep on asking them.
    Airman Brown said:

    sm said:

    Ask why Katrien's salary is not declared in the club's statutory accounts in contravention of UK Company Law - as a lawyer KM deserves at least one question in her area of expertise.!

    Or as a related party transaction if paid elsewhere. And why much of the interest charged to Baton is not shown as interest in the CAFC Limited accounts.

    Are these amounts included in the FFP submission to the League or is the club concealing them from the League and if so how can this be justified?

    Questions for you, David Joyes, and we'll keep on asking them.
    No even if the emoluments are paid elsewhere and one of the directors (RD/KM) knows the details then it has to be disclosed under the Companies Acts requirements - directors deliberately concealing information would make the offence even worse - I give relevant details below with the more relevant points highlighted

    From Schedule 5 - The Large and Medium-sized Companies and Groups (Accounts and Reports) Regulations 2008

    5.—(1) There must be shown the aggregate amount of any consideration paid to or receivable by third parties for making available the services of any person—
    (a)as a director of the company, or
    (b)while director of the company—
    (i)as director of any of its subsidiary undertakings, or
    (ii)otherwise in connection with the management of the affairs of the company or any of its subsidiary undertakings.
    (2) In sub-paragraph (1)—
    (a)the reference to consideration includes benefits otherwise than in cash, and
    (b)in relation to such consideration the reference to its amount is to the estimated money value of the benefit.
    The nature of any such consideration must be disclosed.
    (3) For the purposes of this paragraph a “third party” means a person other than—
    (a)the director himself or a person connected with him or a body corporate controlled by him, or
    (b)the company or any of its subsidiary undertakings.

    General nature of obligations
    6.—(1) This Schedule requires information to be given only so far as it is contained in the company’s books and papers or the company has the right to obtain it from the persons concerned.
    (2) For the purposes of this Schedule any information is treated as shown if it is capable of being readily ascertained from other information which is shown.
    Provisions as to amounts to be shown
    7.—(1) The following provisions apply with respect to the amounts to be shown under this Schedule.
    (2) The amount in each case includes all relevant sums, whether paid by or receivable from the company, any of the company’s subsidiary undertakings or any other person.
    (3) References to amounts paid to or receivable by a person include amounts paid to or receivable by a person connected with him or a body corporate controlled by him (but not so as to require an amount to be counted twice).
    (4) Except as otherwise provided, the amounts to be shown for any financial year are—
    (a)the sums receivable in respect of that year (whenever paid), or
    (b)in the case of sums not receivable in respect of a period, the sums paid during that year.
    (5) Sums paid by way of expenses allowance that are charged to United Kingdom income tax after the end of the relevant financial year must be shown in a note to the first accounts in which it is practicable to show them and must be distinguished from the amounts to be shown apart from this provision.
    (6) Where it is necessary to do so for the purpose of making any distinction required in complying with this Schedule, the directors may apportion payments between the matters in respect of which they have been paid or are receivable in such manner as they think appropriate.

    Shouldn't someone be told?
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    My understanding is remuneration for the work she does, regardless as to which company or who's bank account that remuneration comes from MUST be disclosed;

    Note: The Act requires all remuneration paid to
    or receivable by directors and prescribed officers to be disclosed. It does not only account for remuneration paid by the company, or another company in the group. Rather, it focuses on the amounts a director or prescribed officer earns for services as a director or prescribed officer (to the company or any other company within the group), or for the carrying on the affairs of the company (or any other company within the group).
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    Katrien, Katrien
    Pay your tax
    Katrien
    Pay your tax

  • Sam lloyd
    Sam lloyd Posts: 1,083
    They're coming for you
    They're coming for you
    HMRC are coming for you
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    Rob7Lee said:

    My understanding is remuneration for the work she does, regardless as to which company or who's bank account that remuneration comes from MUST be disclosed;

    Note: The Act requires all remuneration paid to
    or receivable by directors and prescribed officers to be disclosed. It does not only account for remuneration paid by the company, or another company in the group. Rather, it focuses on the amounts a director or prescribed officer earns for services as a director or prescribed officer (to the company or any other company within the group), or for the carrying on the affairs of the company (or any other company within the group).

    There's our problem straight away.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Sam lloyd said:

    They're coming for you
    They're coming for you
    HMRC are coming for you

    Yeah. Like they did for Google.

    But a good one.

  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    I'm guessing this didn't happen?
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,926
    The Red Robin said:

    HarryLime said:

    Ask why they feel it is necessary to lock the gates of the Valley, whenever RD visits.

    Ask her if she understands the historic connotations that action alone carries.
    This!
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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    How difficult are u-locks to get off? Or heavy chains used to lock up motorbikes with a decent padlock?

    Surely you need industrial cutting gear?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    cafc_harry said:

    I'm guessing this didn't happen?

    It's all a bit strange. The Trust statement suggested that, as far as they knew, it was happening until yesterday afternoon.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Classy.

    Are they still chatting?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Alwaysneil said:

    How difficult are u-locks to get off? Or heavy chains used to lock up motorbikes with a decent padlock?

    Surely you need industrial cutting gear?

    Not sure why you are asking, but most padlocks can be opened with a coke can. (See YouTube video for a demonstration.)
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Any ideas if it was videoed, I could do with a laugh!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    JohnnyH2 said:



    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Any ideas if it was videoed, I could do with a laugh!
    Don't know as, as said, wasn't there.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    Be surprised if it wasn't filmed, I'm sure someone who attended will be along soon.
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Have they outnumbered the fans with staff by so many, that no fans were actually invited?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Who was there from the fans, Ben?

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    edited April 2016
    Weegie Addick said:

    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Who was there from the fans, Ben?

    Seriously Red for the Trust


    : - )
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Henry Irving said:

    Weegie Addick said:

    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Who was there from the fans, Ben?

    Seriously Red for the Trust
    Ha, ha, ha very funny

  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,230
    JohnnyH2 said:



    Henry Irving said:

    It did happen.

    Wasn't there as not a part of it but it did happen and KM was there.

    Any ideas if it was videoed, I could do with a laugh!
    If Syd was there it will be like a scene from On the Buses.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Whys it called "The fans forum" when no fans were present and hardly anyone knows anything about it and no one will ever speak of it again. Fans...

    May as well rename it at least.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,230
    Dave2l said:

    Whys it called "The fans forum" when no fans were present and hardly anyone knows anything about it and no one will ever speak of it again. Fans...

    May as well rename it at least.

    The Katrien Meire Appreciation Society. New members are smirked at.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,926
    Anyone?! Any updates at all? Nope
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    cafcfan said:

    Alwaysneil said:

    How difficult are u-locks to get off? Or heavy chains used to lock up motorbikes with a decent padlock?

    Surely you need industrial cutting gear?

    Not sure why you are asking, but most padlocks can be opened with a coke can. (See YouTube video for a demonstration.)
    I've seen the you tube video of how you can fold a fitted sheet flat and tidy. Buggered if I can do it myself though... :smile:
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    This would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic. A Fans Forum meeting that the fans have no clue about.

    So, just WHO was there?
  • LeaburnForEngland
    LeaburnForEngland Posts: 2,291
    I emailed the club last night asking when the video of the meeting would be released... I'll post my reply as soon as I get it. Not holding my breath though.

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