Pope should be first choice keeper in front of Henderson. Henderson won't command a transfer fee, hence Pope will be sold to help balance the books, Slade will only stay if he gets his way which he will find out come October will not be possible.
we started off well - new British manager followed by three decent signings. Now the worm is turning. Losing JBG and Cousins for frankly pathetic fees and trialling Buxton, Foley and Crofts, none of whom inspire. This will continue with the departure of Tex and Pope and no quality will come in to replace them. We will start the season with Johnson and Konsa at CH, Jacko in midfield and then Slade will come to his senses and realise what a bunch of arseholes he is working for and resign before the end of September. I wouldn't trust this lot to run a bath.
Pope won't be number two to Henderson he will only stay if he number one ..... Is the season starting Saturday given the over reaction on here you would think so .... Slade as said knows who he wants but sometimes you have to wait for clubs to do their business before they release players .... All of a sudden Pope is the best keeper despite fans not long ago saying he was hopeless. Crofts was mentioned on these forums last season as a player we should sign well he not a bad player, and worth a contract at least for 12 months , Buxton would rather had kept Pike but Buxton can play central and Foley blimey only played 45 mins after arriving yesterday morning give him a chance ... Pre season lot of players good players have been released so lot of players turning up at clubs looking for a chance some might stay but most will move around two of three clubs before they get a deal ... People are acting like we are the only team that doing it fact is we been doing it for years .... Cousins and Gudmunnson made it clear they did not want to play in div one there may be one or two others that follow and that's their right, the club will bring in new players players that want to play for Charlton and we will be a better team for it ... Slade here to stay he knows what he wants and who he wants he made a great start,
Made it clear to whom? I've heard that katrien made it clear to the players that both would be off loaded to reduce wages?
A client of mine supports Brighton (season ticket) and said the following about Crofts.
"I didn’t come back to you the other day regarding Crofts – He is a good box to box midfield and should be able to put in a shift in league 1. Was our captain in his first stint and was a fans favourite before moving to Norwich and played in the Prem (which no one could blame him for leaving). Was unlucky when back with us and started to fit in and had a major injury which put him out for a year and couldn’t get back in the team since. Was unlucky not to be in the Welsh team as he played in a lot of their qualifiers. I think would be a good signing for you"
A client of mine supports Brighton (season ticket) and said the following about Crofts.
"I didn’t come back to you the other day regarding Crofts – He is a good box to box midfield and should be able to put in a shift in league 1. Was our captain in his first stint and was a fans favourite before moving to Norwich and played in the Prem (which no one could blame him for leaving). Was unlucky when back with us and started to fit in and had a major injury which put him out for a year and couldn’t get back in the team since. Was unlucky not to be in the Welsh team as he played in a lot of their qualifiers. I think would be a good signing for you"
Sounds fine for league one to me
He was probably the best player in the first half.
Can anybody explain why we appear to be so poor at transfer dealings?
I just can't put my finger on it.
At a guess
Katrien's poor negotiation skills and lack of experience in football Desperation to get higher earners off the wage bill Working towards the target of breaking even - sell a higher earner, use fee and money saved on wages to replace with a free transfer on lower wages Possibly players having low release clauses in contracts but that comes back to Katrien's negotiating
With all the money in football now these are very low fees. Can't really see how anyone can argue that they're fair when you see the sort of figures other clubs bring in.
!.5 million (or even less!) is a disgrace. if he stayed and honoured his contract he would be worth more than 1.5 million in his effect on the team alone. I absolutely support Cousins desire to leave, and think it is good for him, but at that price it isn't good for us. What on earth has Katrien Meire learned? Signing the likes of Sarr on a four year contract, and accepting a pathetic fee for Cousins are typical examples of her uselessness. I really believe I could have negotiated a better deal for Charlton with regard to Jordan Cousins, indeed one where club, player, new club, agents and fans would recognise it as fair and reasonable. And I am a moron.
We should sell pope if we that desperate for money at least we got cover for goalkeeper. We are selling cousins cheap and we have no midfield fucking idiots I'm done was going to go to bury don't think I'll bother any more get the flairs out what a clueless set of fuckers division 4 for the first time ever here we come. It's embarrasing
!.5 million (or even less!) is a disgrace. if he stayed and honoured his contract he would be worth more than 1.5 million in his effect on the team alone. I absolutely support Cousins desire to leave, and think it is good for him, but at that price it isn't good for us. What on earth has Katrien Meire learned? Signing the likes of Sarr on a four year contract, and accepting a pathetic fee for Cousins are typical examples of her uselessness. I really believe I could have negotiated a better deal for Charlton with regard to Jordan Cousins, indeed one where club, player, new club, agents and fans would recognise it as fair and reasonable. And I am a moron.
I disagree Seth. I get your point about the money we paid for Sarr and Bauer etc, and yes you are right KM got taken for a ride on how much we paid them, but I don't believe Cousins is worth more than £1.5m max.
He's just not as good as people think he is. £1.5m is a fair price, and I doubt KM or anyone would get much more for him
El Hadji Ba will do a job in League1.. with jackson and crofts providing passing ability i wouldn't be too upset.
However, the fee for Cousins is a shambles, he is an engine, not great technically but a brilliant championship player! I would want closer to £3m when you consider Lewis Cook from Leeds has gone for 6m + add-ons after 1 season in the championship! Well done Katrien you cucking funt
Ba reminds me me of the football table games you used to find in the amusement arcades at the seaside, smack him on the head and his leg comes out to kick the ball, I won't be losing any sleep if he goes.
I can't believe he wants to go to QPR there shit I could understand burnley in premier league but them in there match box ground it's all bullocks.can we chuck these Belgiums out our country now we are out of Europe. Piss off
We should sell pope if we that desperate for money at least we got cover for goalkeeper. We are selling cousins cheap and we have no midfield fucking idiots I'm done was going to go to bury don't think I'll bother any more get the flairs out what a clueless set of fuckers division 4 for the first time ever here we come. It's embarrasing
I can't believe he wants to go to QPR there shit I could understand burnley in premier league but them in there match box ground it's all bullocks.can we chuck these Belgiums out our country now we are out of Europe. Piss off
I doubt any prem clubs would've come in for him. QPR will be an attractive proposition for him being a London club and recently in the prem
He's young, has a decent record, tons of potential, and he's british. He is nowhere near his peak age group yet either. If they sign him now you could still get 15 years out of him. For a club to have just earned £150m that offer is derisory.
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
Again Katrien will at best be reactive, not proactive, in getting her story out there and so loses again. Her news management is close to non-existent, we have no comms manager and no comms strategy. Did they think the Solly deal would deflect anger over a Cousins sale? They certainly thought that the Ajose, Novak and Holmes deals would bring back lapsed ST holders as they have instructed the company calling those ex-STs to ask the question.
Most of use realised that Cousins, and JBG, would go as soon as we were relegated. They want to go and more importantly the club are desperate to move them on. Their new contracts last summer were very expensive (£25k pw for JBG according to Redhenry who is normally a realiable source).
Katrien had, and presumably still has, targets each season for player sales. So someone has to go.
The question is that what are KMs sales targets? How much does she need to raise? Because if we "only" get £1.5m for Cousins but she budgeted for it being £3m then that extra money has to come from somewhere.
Roland could loan the club he owns some more money. Yes, he could but I don't think it is likely. He's set the budget and that will be that. So it either comes from savings or from sales. KM appears to have told Roland that changing the Belgian deckchairs for some British versions on the Charlton Titanic will stop the ship sinking.
But the good ship Charlton will only survive if it changes direction more substantially. Away from the small, inexperienced, injury prone iceberg that sunk the ship last year and towards the open sea of a balanced squad, with a good blend and an experienced skipper (which in Slade at least we have).
So Meire has to somehow meet Roland's budget AND allow Slade to build a proper squad. Even for an experienced and skilled CEO that would be a big ask, for Katrien it will be next to impossible.
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"I didn’t come back to you the other day regarding Crofts – He is a good box to box midfield and should be able to put in a shift in league 1. Was our captain in his first stint and was a fans favourite before moving to Norwich and played in the Prem (which no one could blame him for leaving). Was unlucky when back with us and started to fit in and had a major injury which put him out for a year and couldn’t get back in the team since. Was unlucky not to be in the Welsh team as he played in a lot of their qualifiers. I think would be a good signing for you"
Sounds fine for league one to me
Paul Taylor?
Shamelessly nicked from elsewhere!
I just can't put my finger on it.
Katrien's poor negotiation skills and lack of experience in football
Desperation to get higher earners off the wage bill
Working towards the target of breaking even - sell a higher earner, use fee and money saved on wages to replace with a free transfer on lower wages
Possibly players having low release clauses in contracts but that comes back to Katrien's negotiating
With all the money in football now these are very low fees. Can't really see how anyone can argue that they're fair when you see the sort of figures other clubs bring in.
I absolutely support Cousins desire to leave, and think it is good for him, but at that price it isn't good for us.
What on earth has Katrien Meire learned? Signing the likes of Sarr on a four year contract, and accepting a pathetic fee for Cousins are typical examples of her uselessness.
I really believe I could have negotiated a better deal for Charlton with regard to Jordan Cousins, indeed one where club, player, new club, agents and fans would recognise it as fair and reasonable.
And I am a moron.
He's just not as good as people think he is. £1.5m is a fair price, and I doubt KM or anyone would get much more for him
However, the fee for Cousins is a shambles, he is an engine, not great technically but a brilliant championship player! I would want closer to £3m when you consider Lewis Cook from Leeds has gone for 6m + add-ons after 1 season in the championship! Well done Katrien you cucking funt
Surprised that Pope is still here.
He's young, has a decent record, tons of potential, and he's british. He is nowhere near his peak age group yet either. If they sign him now you could still get 15 years out of him.
For a club to have just earned £150m that offer is derisory.
I'm not sure I believe the £1.5m figure.
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
Again Katrien will at best be reactive, not proactive, in getting her story out there and so loses again. Her news management is close to non-existent, we have no comms manager and no comms strategy. Did they think the Solly deal would deflect anger over a Cousins sale? They certainly thought that the Ajose, Novak and Holmes deals would bring back lapsed ST holders as they have instructed the company calling those ex-STs to ask the question.
Most of use realised that Cousins, and JBG, would go as soon as we were relegated. They want to go and more importantly the club are desperate to move them on. Their new contracts last summer were very expensive (£25k pw for JBG according to Redhenry who is normally a realiable source).
Katrien had, and presumably still has, targets each season for player sales. So someone has to go.
The question is that what are KMs sales targets? How much does she need to raise? Because if we "only" get £1.5m for Cousins but she budgeted for it being £3m then that extra money has to come from somewhere.
Roland could loan the club he owns some more money. Yes, he could but I don't think it is likely. He's set the budget and that will be that. So it either comes from savings or from sales. KM appears to have told Roland that changing the Belgian deckchairs for some British versions on the Charlton Titanic will stop the ship sinking.
But the good ship Charlton will only survive if it changes direction more substantially. Away from the small, inexperienced, injury prone iceberg that sunk the ship last year and towards the open sea of a balanced squad, with a good blend and an experienced skipper (which in Slade at least we have).
So Meire has to somehow meet Roland's budget AND allow Slade to build a proper squad. Even for an experienced and skilled CEO that would be a big ask, for Katrien it will be next to impossible.