Colin, unless you are RD or KM how do you know the QPR figure is incorrect? You normally post after the SLP has revealed something so you are not in the know so how do you know this figure is wrong?
Don't really rate cousins but I think we should of tried to milk a bit more out of them.
If you don't rate cousins, I dread to think how you rate the rest of the squad. We are an embarrassment, but the plus side is... Every fuck up this club makes I'm less likely to ever bother going back, Saving me £100 every other week of the season
Colin, unless you are RD or KM how do you know the QPR figure is incorrect? You normally post after the SLP has revealed something so you are not in the know so how do you know this figure is wrong?
Why don't you ask Henry, he insinuated it originally, no point in asking the 35th hand source of Colin
The figure seems to be going down according to West London Times (I think that was the paper) it is 1.2 million rising to 1.4 with add ons. Their supporters on Twitter are really pleased calling it a steal and he will be worth 10 million in a few years. I think they have got the best end of the deal!
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).
Keep up the Valley Gold clearly a great return.
I had planned to renew mine at the end of the month, but think I'll pass now.
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).</blockquote
I though Shelvey was less than that or is that including add ons
El Hadji Ba will do a job in League1.. with jackson and crofts providing passing ability i wouldn't be too upset.
However, the fee for Cousins is a shambles, he is an engine, not great technically but a brilliant championship player! I would want closer to £3m when you consider Lewis Cook from Leeds has gone for 6m + add-ons after 1 season in the championship! Well done Katrien you cucking funt
Did cook ask to leave ? Is Cook a div one player .... Look at it another way we signed the div one leading goal scorer for below 1 mill pounds if Ajose was in the championship and scored over 20 goals how much would he gone for then Get some perspective ....
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).
already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct
You can go back in time and list players that have been released , look at Man U and Progba even they do it
The question should be why didnt we realise their potential?
So of out oldish trialists, Crofts has played 80 ganes in two seasons, Foley two dozen in two seasons and Buxton 20 games last season and we are connected with Paul Taylor who barely kicked a ball for a year. Nice to know previous mistakes have been recognised and acted on. Meanwhile we have two fit CHs one of them being RoJo.
Bit harsh on Crofts. 80 games in two seasons is pretty decent. Even Buxtons 20 isn't completely dreadful.
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).
already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct
You can go back in time and list players that have been released , look at Man U and Progba even they do it
So now @colin1961 is quoting me as his source. This is like reading Alice in Wonderland on acid.
But since I'm Colin's sources I can catorgrically say he's talking a load of fecking bollocks as per usual.
What I said is "I'm not sure I believe the £1.5m figure.
In typical Colin way he mangles that into "Already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct"
Just so so far from what I said but in Colin's mind it makes sense.
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).
already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct
You can go back in time and list players that have been released , look at Man U and Progba even they do it
So now @colin1961 is quoting me as his source. This is like reading Alice in Wonderland on Alice.
But since I'm Colin's sources I can catorgrically say he's talking a load of fecking bollocks as per usual.
What I said is "I'm not sure I believe the £1.5m figure.
In typical Colin way he mangles that into "Already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct"
Just so so far from what I said but in Colin's mind it makes sense.
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).
already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct
You can go back in time and list players that have been released , look at Man U and Progba even they do it
So now @colin1961 is quoting me as his source. This is like reading Alice in Wonderland on acid.
But since I'm Colin's sources I can catorgrically say he's talking a load of fecking bollocks as per usual.
What I said is "I'm not sure I believe the £1.5m figure.
In typical Colin way he mangles that into "Already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct"
Just so so far from what I said but in Colin's mind it makes sense.
Not only is he a WUM he is just unable to process information in his tiny mind. Opinion becomes fact, a possibility a sure thing.
Weird meaning weird.
Why drag me into this?
Read my posts! Do I agree with Colin? No! Do I question his stupid comments? Yes! Colin talks a lot of rubbish but he is entitled to his options and views. The treatment he gets on here is bullying by pathetic key board warriors who probably wouldn't have the balls to tell him to his face. I don't like pathetic bullies and will stick up for anyone on here who is being unnecessarily bullied.
If you don't like it then don't read it or respond to it. It's your choice! Stop acting like a shit stirring 15 year old girl
Get a life pal and don't involve me in your pathetic little attention seeking posts
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
So we've lost Jordan Cousins (1.5m), Jonjo Shelvey (2.5m), Joe Gomez (3.5m), Carl Jenkinson (1m), Diego Poyet (free) and Darren Randolph (free) and Harry Arter (free) for about the price of Tyrone Mings (8m).
already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct
You can go back in time and list players that have been released , look at Man U and Progba even they do it
So now @colin1961 is quoting me as his source. This is like reading Alice in Wonderland on acid.
But since I'm Colin's sources I can catorgrically say he's talking a load of fecking bollocks as per usual.
What I said is "I'm not sure I believe the £1.5m figure.
In typical Colin way he mangles that into "Already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct"
Just so so far from what I said but in Colin's mind it makes sense.
Not only is he a WUM he is just unable to process information in his tiny mind. Opinion becomes fact, a possibility a sure thing.
Weird meaning weird.
Why drag me into this?
Read my posts! Do I agree with Colin? No! Do I question his stupid comments? Yes! Colin talks a lot of rubbish but he is entitled to his options and views. The treatment he gets on here is bullying by pathetic key board warriors who probably wouldn't have the balls to tell him to his face. I don't like pathetic bullies and will stick up for anyone on here who is being unnecessarily bullied.
If you don't like it then don't read it or respond to it. It's your choice! Stop acting like a shit stirring 15 year old girl
Get a life pal and don't involve me in your pathetic little attention seeking posts
And that is why I "drag" you into this. He's not being bullied, he's being called out for being a WUM but you just don't get it.
You constantly stick up for him, defend him, say he's not a WUM and now when your shown up you start getting upset and start throwing around insults
Laughably you also go on about keyboard warriors with no balls to say it to the person's face. Pot and kettle.
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
Again Katrien will at best be reactive, not proactive, in getting her story out there and so loses again. Her news management is close to non-existent, we have no comms manager and no comms strategy. Did they think the Solly deal would deflect anger over a Cousins sale? They certainly thought that the Ajose, Novak and Holmes deals would bring back lapsed ST holders as they have instructed the company calling those ex-STs to ask the question.
Most of use realised that Cousins, and JBG, would go as soon as we were relegated. They want to go and more importantly the club are desperate to move them on. Their new contracts last summer were very expensive (£25k pw for JBG according to Redhenry who is normally a realiable source).
Katrien had, and presumably still has, targets each season for player sales. So someone has to go.
The question is that what are KMs sales targets? How much does she need to raise? Because if we "only" get £1.5m for Cousins but she budgeted for it being £3m then that extra money has to come from somewhere.
Roland could loan the club he owns some more money. Yes, he could but I don't think it is likely. He's set the budget and that will be that. So it either comes from savings or from sales. KM appears to have told Roland that changing the Belgian deckchairs for some British versions on the Charlton Titanic will stop the ship sinking.
But the good ship Charlton will only survive if it changes direction more substantially. Away from the small, inexperienced, injury prone iceberg that sunk the ship last year and towards the open sea of a balanced squad, with a good blend and an experienced skipper (which in Slade at least we have).
So Meire has to somehow meet Roland's budget AND allow Slade to build a proper squad. Even for an experienced and skilled CEO that would be a big ask, for Katrien it will be next to impossible.
My understanding is this figure represents over twice their initial offer and more than a ⅓ greater than there 2nd offer and more than any other interested club
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
Again Katrien will at best be reactive, not proactive, in getting her story out there and so loses again. Her news management is close to non-existent, we have no comms manager and no comms strategy. Did they think the Solly deal would deflect anger over a Cousins sale? They certainly thought that the Ajose, Novak and Holmes deals would bring back lapsed ST holders as they have instructed the company calling those ex-STs to ask the question.
Most of use realised that Cousins, and JBG, would go as soon as we were relegated. They want to go and more importantly the club are desperate to move them on. Their new contracts last summer were very expensive (£25k pw for JBG according to Redhenry who is normally a realiable source).
Katrien had, and presumably still has, targets each season for player sales. So someone has to go.
The question is that what are KMs sales targets? How much does she need to raise? Because if we "only" get £1.5m for Cousins but she budgeted for it being £3m then that extra money has to come from somewhere.
Roland could loan the club he owns some more money. Yes, he could but I don't think it is likely. He's set the budget and that will be that. So it either comes from savings or from sales. KM appears to have told Roland that changing the Belgian deckchairs for some British versions on the Charlton Titanic will stop the ship sinking.
But the good ship Charlton will only survive if it changes direction more substantially. Away from the small, inexperienced, injury prone iceberg that sunk the ship last year and towards the open sea of a balanced squad, with a good blend and an experienced skipper (which in Slade at least we have).
So Meire has to somehow meet Roland's budget AND allow Slade to build a proper squad. Even for an experienced and skilled CEO that would be a big ask, for Katrien it will be next to impossible.
My understanding is this figure represents over twice their initial offer and more than a ⅓ greater than there 2nd offer and more than any other interested club
It might be the way we negotiate.
A club: "Katrien we'll give you £10 for Lookman" Katrien: "No way" A club: "OK Katrien we'll give you £100 for Lookman, that's ten times our original offer you tough negotiating woman in football you." Katrien: "Deal".
@seth plum just added a line which I think may be a little closer to the 'mark'
It might be the way we negotiate.
A club: "Katrien we'll give you £10 for Lookman" Katrien: "No way" A club: "OK Katrien we'll give you £100 for Lookman, that's ten times our original offer you tough negotiating woman in football you." Katrien: Under her breath "Sucker"!! RD will be happy".
It appears to come from the QPR end. A lower figure in the public domain would suit them as it looks to their fans as if they have a bargain and are shrewd negotiators. Having been a basket case for years in the way they recruited players they need that.
But even if it isn't true it has been repeated so often now it will be accepted as fact.
Why didn't Charlton get a figure out there in advance? They will no doubt try and get a different (and possibly true) figure out there but it will be too little and too late.
Again Katrien will at best be reactive, not proactive, in getting her story out there and so loses again. Her news management is close to non-existent, we have no comms manager and no comms strategy. Did they think the Solly deal would deflect anger over a Cousins sale? They certainly thought that the Ajose, Novak and Holmes deals would bring back lapsed ST holders as they have instructed the company calling those ex-STs to ask the question.
Most of use realised that Cousins, and JBG, would go as soon as we were relegated. They want to go and more importantly the club are desperate to move them on. Their new contracts last summer were very expensive (£25k pw for JBG according to Redhenry who is normally a realiable source).
Katrien had, and presumably still has, targets each season for player sales. So someone has to go.
The question is that what are KMs sales targets? How much does she need to raise? Because if we "only" get £1.5m for Cousins but she budgeted for it being £3m then that extra money has to come from somewhere.
Roland could loan the club he owns some more money. Yes, he could but I don't think it is likely. He's set the budget and that will be that. So it either comes from savings or from sales. KM appears to have told Roland that changing the Belgian deckchairs for some British versions on the Charlton Titanic will stop the ship sinking.
But the good ship Charlton will only survive if it changes direction more substantially. Away from the small, inexperienced, injury prone iceberg that sunk the ship last year and towards the open sea of a balanced squad, with a good blend and an experienced skipper (which in Slade at least we have).
So Meire has to somehow meet Roland's budget AND allow Slade to build a proper squad. Even for an experienced and skilled CEO that would be a big ask, for Katrien it will be next to impossible.
My understanding is this figure represents over twice their initial offer and more than a ⅓ greater than there 2nd offer and more than any other interested club
It might be the way we negotiate.
A club: "Katrien we'll give you £10 for Lookman" Katrien: "No way" A club: "OK Katrien we'll give you £100 for Lookman, that's ten times our original offer you tough negotiating woman in football you." Katrien: "Deal".
I will probably look stupid believing this... but hey that must be the truth!
Cousins 'I want to leave' KM 'You can't you are under contract and we don't have any decent offers' Cousins 'if you don't let me go I'm talking to Louis about what a shit show you are and how all the players hate you' KM 'first offer it is then'
All this crap about the club having to sell.. RD is worth £1bn we are Nader no financial pressure to sell. He may chose to set a budget that forces us to sell (and that is his right), but we certainly do not HAVE to.
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already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correctYou can go back in time and list players that have been released , look at Man U and Progba even they do it
The question should be why didnt we realise their potential?
So now @colin1961 is quoting me as his source. This is like reading Alice in Wonderland on acid.
But since I'm Colin's sources I can catorgrically say he's talking a load of fecking bollocks as per usual.
What I said is "I'm not sure I believe the £1.5m figure.
In typical Colin way he mangles that into "Already been said on the forum that the figure QPR released is not correct"
Just so so far from what I said but in Colin's mind it makes sense.
This is what he always does @Todds_right_hook @DamoNorthStand et al.
Not only is he a WUM he is just unable to process information in his tiny mind. Opinion becomes fact, a possibility a sure thing.
Weird meaning weird.
Bear in mind in future arguments he will be saying it was £1.5m initial payment raising to £5m with add on.
Read my posts! Do I agree with Colin? No! Do I question his stupid comments? Yes! Colin talks a lot of rubbish but he is entitled to his options and views. The treatment he gets on here is bullying by pathetic key board warriors who probably wouldn't have the balls to tell him to his face. I don't like pathetic bullies and will stick up for anyone on here who is being unnecessarily bullied.
If you don't like it then don't read it or respond to it. It's your choice! Stop acting like a shit stirring 15 year old girl
Get a life pal and don't involve me in your pathetic little attention seeking posts
You constantly stick up for him, defend him, say he's not a WUM and now when your shown up you start getting upset and start throwing around insults
Laughably you also go on about keyboard warriors with no balls to say it to the person's face. Pot and kettle.
A club: "Katrien we'll give you £10 for Lookman"
Katrien: "No way"
A club: "OK Katrien we'll give you £100 for Lookman, that's ten times our original offer you tough negotiating woman in football you."
Katrien: "Deal".
It might be the way we negotiate.
A club: "Katrien we'll give you £10 for Lookman"
Katrien: "No way"
A club: "OK Katrien we'll give you £100 for Lookman, that's ten times our original offer you tough negotiating woman in football you."
Katrien: Under her breath "Sucker"!! RD will be happy".
Cousins 'I want to leave'
KM 'You can't you are under contract and we don't have any decent offers'
Cousins 'if you don't let me go I'm talking to Louis about what a shit show you are and how all the players hate you'
KM 'first offer it is then'
Great trier but shirked responsibility always pointing to others