What's weird about supporting your team through good and bad times?
Can you remind some of us on here when the club last had its good time?
Were you hiding under a rock in 2011/12?
No. I just didn't class being relegated to the third tier of English football and then getting promotion as our greatest season. It was a relief if anything.
we didn't just get promotion we got the clubs record points tally (IIRC) and won the league comfortably.
On the day we got relegated from the Prem, if someone said to me "dont worry, we could be league one champions soon!" I wouldn't have been consoled.
What's weird about supporting your team through good and bad times?
Can you remind some of us on here when the club last had its good time?
Were you hiding under a rock in 2011/12?
No. I just didn't class being relegated to the third tier of English football and then getting promotion as our greatest season. It was a relief if anything.
we didn't just get promotion we got the clubs record points tally (IIRC) and won the league comfortably.
On the day we got relegated from the Prem, if someone said to me "dont worry, we could be league one champions soon!" I wouldn't have been consoled.
Ah well must suck to be so negative.
Every cloud has it's silver lining, the way I had looked at it was on relegation 'At least we'll see more wins in the championship'
I was correct for the first season
When we were relegated to League 1 I said the same, and you know what... I was correct.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
Will they be the 'quality' additions Slade will have been hoping for, or Simon Church/Marvin Sordell style late transfer window panic signings? I'm not sure, but right now, in my mind, it leans towards the latter.
I still don't particularly feel like this is a consequence of the club being unwilling to spend money - if anything it is the opposite, they overspent on poor and mediocre players in the Championship and the wage bill was completely unsustainable in League 1, hence the fire sale.
What has caused this is the lack of a coherent policy for identifying and recruiting players that was allowed to go unaddressed for 2 and a bit years. I suspect things are now, finally, being done to rectify this, or at least I am sure Head and Slade are trying, but waiting until after the season to appoint a chief scout was always going to leave us unprepared for replacing the inevitable large number of departures that were going to happen this summer. The revolving door likely wouldn't have been spinning much slower even if we had stayed up, but relegation has only exacerbated the problem.
My worry is we won't get it all done before the transfer window closes and with the loan system no longer available we will be forced to supplement the squad with unattached players without a pre-season behind them. Basically, although not the exact same mistake as before, certainly a variation on the theme.
At best I think we can expect a slow start and we must hope things gel as the season progress and we can come on strong in the second half of the season. At worst, the start will be bad, Slade will carry the can and be fired in November and replaced with the bloke from Ujpest.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
I hadn't heard that... which one?
Holmes
That lad has a serious head on his shoulders. Comes across really well in interviews, in the firendlies he seems a bit of a leader on the pitch too. I think we've got a good'un there.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
Except Moncur
Didnt we go after and get rejected by moncur before Slade arrived?
Moncur signed for Barnsley on 21 June, Slade joined Charlton on 6 June. As I said we'd already spoken to him before Slade joined. What first attracted him to Championship Barnsley i don't know but we may not have been willing to match their fee.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
I hadn't heard that... which one?
Holmes
That lad has a serious head on his shoulders. Comes across really well in interviews, in the firendlies he seems a bit of a leader on the pitch too. I think we've got a good'un there.
I agree with this based on what I've seen. Holmes and Novak both seem keen to sustain a personal level of performance, and leave it to others to judge whether it is good enough or not. Their overall footballing ability and impact remains to be seen, but both seem to have pride in what they try to do.
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
I hadn't heard that... which one?
Holmes
That lad has a serious head on his shoulders. Comes across really well in interviews, in the firendlies he seems a bit of a leader on the pitch too. I think we've got a good'un there.
Fair old set of biceps on him too.
I like the cut of his jib so far - seems a mature personality and appears to look after himself physically. Hi highlights reel is impressive too, which makes me wonder what the catch is? We did sign him from League 2 after all. Players with skills, physical conditioning and a good attitude aren't usually still festering at that level when 28.
Loans are the devils work on a larger scale (rather than supplementing a steady team). Been through it all before. We need a signed up squad, and a big one at that. 30-35 players will be used over the season.
Loans are the devils work on a larger scale (rather than supplementing a steady team). Been through it all before. We need a signed up squad, and a big one at that. 30-35 players will be used over the season.
Tend to agree - but it's different this year as loans must be for the season - not just short term to get a player fit. So you would hope that anyone incoming wants to learn, improve and prove himself to his parent team. Well you'd hope so anyway...
My understanding is the signings we have made were all Slade's choices. In addition to that he hasn't failed to acquire one of his targets yet.
That may be but a least one has said they were approached by Katrien Meire before Slade was in the frame and declined until he could speak to the manager.
I hadn't heard that... which one?
Holmes
That lad has a serious head on his shoulders. Comes across really well in interviews, in the firendlies he seems a bit of a leader on the pitch too. I think we've got a good'un there.
Friend of mine is a Pompey season ticket holder,Holmes was there a couple of years ago,he didnt appear to settle there but my pal raved about him,said we'd signed a good'un and is "quality"
Bloody hell, I have resisted looking at twitter today convinced that we might have signed one or two new players. With GREAT anticipation I turned on the laptop, hit the Charlton Life thingy and saw three unread transfer-rumours pages......YES......................................NO, nothing,, zilch, fuck all!! God it is really hard (I actually think it is getting harder) to support the mighty reds. Oh well there's always tomorrow!?!? COYR.............
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Every cloud has it's silver lining, the way I had looked at it was on relegation 'At least we'll see more wins in the championship'
I was correct for the first season
When we were relegated to League 1 I said the same, and you know what... I was correct.
Will they be the 'quality' additions Slade will have been hoping for, or Simon Church/Marvin Sordell style late transfer window panic signings? I'm not sure, but right now, in my mind, it leans towards the latter.
I still don't particularly feel like this is a consequence of the club being unwilling to spend money - if anything it is the opposite, they overspent on poor and mediocre players in the Championship and the wage bill was completely unsustainable in League 1, hence the fire sale.
What has caused this is the lack of a coherent policy for identifying and recruiting players that was allowed to go unaddressed for 2 and a bit years. I suspect things are now, finally, being done to rectify this, or at least I am sure Head and Slade are trying, but waiting until after the season to appoint a chief scout was always going to leave us unprepared for replacing the inevitable large number of departures that were going to happen this summer. The revolving door likely wouldn't have been spinning much slower even if we had stayed up, but relegation has only exacerbated the problem.
My worry is we won't get it all done before the transfer window closes and with the loan system no longer available we will be forced to supplement the squad with unattached players without a pre-season behind them. Basically, although not the exact same mistake as before, certainly a variation on the theme.
At best I think we can expect a slow start and we must hope things gel as the season progress and we can come on strong in the second half of the season. At worst, the start will be bad, Slade will carry the can and be fired in November and replaced with the bloke from Ujpest.
We'd already spoken to Moncur and R Holmes before Slade was appointed.
Moncur signed for Barnsley on 21 June, Slade joined Charlton on 6 June. As I said we'd already spoken to him before Slade joined. What first attracted him to Championship Barnsley i don't know but we may not have been willing to match their fee.
Sounds like the way Russell Slade said it here, he was never interested in the player
Their overall footballing ability and impact remains to be seen, but both seem to have pride in what they try to do.
It starts by saying that we'd made two bids but then been outbid.
It then goes on to quote Slade from his first press conference, a week before, when he's talking about players in general.
I like the cut of his jib so far - seems a mature personality and appears to look after himself physically. Hi highlights reel is impressive too, which makes me wonder what the catch is? We did sign him from League 2 after all. Players with skills, physical conditioning and a good attitude aren't usually still festering at that level when 28.
God it is really hard (I actually think it is getting harder) to support the mighty reds. Oh well there's always tomorrow!?!?
COYR.............