I know we cant claim credit for them all but I'd love to know what it is about Charlton that creates such good Goalkeepers:
Bartram / Kiely / Carson / Anderson / Elliot / Randolph / Hamer / Button / Pope have all had really successful years after joining us and am sure I've missed a load of that list (Especially between Bartram / Kiely as my knowledge of Charlton in that era)
Then you've got Phillips / Mitov / Beeney who are all highly rated and could be our First-Team 'keeper
As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.
Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).
Wasn't it the same with Pygott, we were told he was going to be brilliant and the coaching staff rated him
As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.
Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).
As usual good observations. Phillips is a good steady Eddie type of keeper who will get better with experience. However we need credible cover or better still a good properly signed goalkeeper so there is competition for the first team squad. We will be desperate if Phillips gets injured.
Player of the year winners since 1971 (when it started)
Goalkeepers in bold
Year Winner 1971 Paul Went 1972 Keith Peacock 1973 Arthur Horsfield 1974 John Dunn 1975 Richie Bowman 1976 Derek Hales 1977 Mike Flanagan 1978 Keith Peacock 1979 Keith Peacock 1980 Les Berry
Year Winner 1981 Nicky Johns 1982 Terry Naylor 1983 Nicky Johns 1984 Nicky Johns 1985 Mark Aizlewood 1986 Mark Aizlewood 1987 Bob Bolder 1988 John Humphrey 1989 John Humphrey 1990 John Humphrey
Year Winner 1991 Robert Lee 1992 Simon Webster 1993 Stuart Balmer 1994 Carl Leaburn 1995 Richard Rufus 1996 John Robinson 1997 Andy Petterson 1998 Mark Kinsella 1999 Mark Kinsella 2000 Richard Rufus
Year Winner 2001 Richard Rufus 2002 Dean Kiely 2003 Scott Parker 2004 Dean Kiely 2005 Luke Young 2006 Darren Bent 2007 Scott Carson 2008 Matt Holland 2009 Nicky Bailey 2010 Christian Dailly
Year Winner 2011 José Semedo 2012 Chris Solly 2013 Chris Solly 2014 Diego Poyet 2015 Jordan Cousins 2016 Jordan Cousins
Rob Elliot somewhat unlucky not to get the 2011 award
As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.
Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).
Theirs a rumour ? I thought this was an interesting discussion on Charlton goal keepers past and present.
Thread should be retitled transfers rumours and other topics (discussed whilst Charlton supporters pass the time, waiting for rumour / incoming transfer activity
Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".
Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1
I was once told Fulham released an 11 year old goalkeeper because his bone analysis indicated he would only get to 6ft tall and that wasn't tall enough to play top level football.
Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".
Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1
I was once told Fulham released an 11 year old goalkeeper because his bone analysis indicated he would only get to 6ft tall and that wasn't tall enough to play top level football.
Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
At the end of last season he was 4th or maybe 5th choice, now he's possibly 1st choice. Might change his thinking.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.
Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
Good to hear but he's just coming back from injury and has never played a league game.
Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.
Hopefully we've just had the issue of three Goalkeepers (Henderson / Pope / Phillips) who have all experienced First-Team Football and none of them want to run the risk of being the one stuck on the bench (Especially as the emergency loan market is not longer available)
Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
makes you wonder why Burnley didn't sign Phillips then
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.
Hopefully we've just had the issue of three Goalkeepers (Henderson / Pope / Phillips) who have all experienced First-Team Football and none of them want to run the risk of being the one stuck on the bench (Especially as the emergency loan market is not longer available)
more that Hendo pissed off the establishment so was moved on, Pope offered a PL opportunity and took it so we are stuck with Phillips who has never played in the Football League and would see sitting on the bench in League One as a natural progression although he's likely to be sold anyway to Cheltenahm once we have signed two replacements.
PS - the emergency loan market is still available for keepers
Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
Good to hear but he's just coming back from injury and has never played a league game.
Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.
I don't think that is particularly risky. What is risky is having an even younger and less experienced no. 2. If we signed an older player as competition with Phillips then I don't have a problem with him starting as number 1.
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated from league 1
Saw him a lot at the Toulon Tournament and was far from impressed. He looked so awkward on the ball I thought he was a left footer playing at right center back, but he's not.
I do think there's this weird thing where a promising player can play "too much" before a big move, allowing some of his weaknesses to be exposed. It seems that sometimes the transfer fee is the highest right after a player "bursts on to the scene." I cannot make any sense of it, but it felt like that was the case with the Ade rumors in January.
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
The point may be that for a rich premiership club £2 million is an easily affordable punt. Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
The point may be that for a rich premiership club £2 million is an easily affordable punt. Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.
Bad move for him though. Arsenal's track record on signing young English defenders and developing them is poor. Did Upson, Jenkinson or Chambers improve under Wenger? Has one of their own, Kieran Gibbs, developed to reach the potential he had?
People will lynch me for this but was also unsure about adding Sasa Ilic to the list.
He kept a record number of Clean-Sheets joining us (Which should mean he's straight on there) but from the Sunderland performance (i.e. conceding four times) on wards he didnt reach the same heights again, although that might have just been on the basis he wasnt quite good enough for the Premier League
As most of my memories after Wembley are of him running out of his goal at an Everton (or Chelsea) player and doing a star jump to try and stop one of their goals
He was never the same after getting knocked out at Chelsea (colliding with Richard Rufus's kneecap iirc)
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My record for post numbers and no imminent signings
We will be desperate if Phillips gets injured.
Thread should be retitled transfers rumours and other topics (discussed whilst Charlton supporters pass the time, waiting for rumour / incoming transfer activity
Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
At the end of last season he was 4th or maybe 5th choice, now he's possibly 1st choice. Might change his thinking.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.
Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.
PS - the emergency loan market is still available for keepers
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
I do think there's this weird thing where a promising player can play "too much" before a big move, allowing some of his weaknesses to be exposed. It seems that sometimes the transfer fee is the highest right after a player "bursts on to the scene." I cannot make any sense of it, but it felt like that was the case with the Ade rumors in January.
Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.