Transfer rumours thread (DEADLINE DAY starts page 300)
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The question was:- How do you know (or anyone else!) we are paying these players wages?soapy_jones said:
Because we are run by an incompetent useless bunch of Belgian twats!limeygent said:How do we know we are paying these players wages? I understand that's most often the case when a youngster is loaned from a Prem club to a lower league, but how do we know who's paying what when we loan our players out? Just speculation?
Answer:- You don't!4 -
I have a horrible feeling that this lack of signings is exactly what some on Twitter are saying. Slade has said he wants particular players, KM offering him only Network players to which Slade is saying no. Ergo they are at a stalemate and no players coming in.
You'd hope that KM wouldn't honestly believe this team as it stands is one to take us back up. If she does then she is more delusional than any of us ever thought. The other theory is that she is not allowing players to come in to stick 2 fingers up the fans who hate her. Or and here is the real unrealistic theory, we are trying to sign players, getting turned down, being priced out or we will actually make signings soon. The last one sounds crazy when you say it out loud :-)
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Ok narky knickers!Essex_Al said:
The question was:- How do you know (or anyone else!) we are paying these players wages?soapy_jones said:
Because we are run by an incompetent useless bunch of Belgian twats!limeygent said:How do we know we are paying these players wages? I understand that's most often the case when a youngster is loaned from a Prem club to a lower league, but how do we know who's paying what when we loan our players out? Just speculation?
Answer:- You don't!5 -
Because no other club would match the contracts they all got from Meire, which is also why they only go on loan.Essex_Al said:
The question was:- How do you know (or anyone else!) we are paying these players wages?soapy_jones said:
Because we are run by an incompetent useless bunch of Belgian twats!limeygent said:How do we know we are paying these players wages? I understand that's most often the case when a youngster is loaned from a Prem club to a lower league, but how do we know who's paying what when we loan our players out? Just speculation?
Answer:- You don't!10 -
I wonder how much money they have waisted in 2 years by buying unsuitable players, not to mention the low or non existant fees received for players transfered our, must be a good few million.1
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Well if he's a part time estate agent as well as a footballer, I'm glad he's moved...Essex_Al said:RS has had Ceballos for all of pre season and hardly played him, so obviously doesn't rate him. Hasn't got the properties for life in L1.
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There could be an element of truth in that, but you're not telling me the loaning club are paying nothing, therefore we are freeing up money for incoming signings!Airman Brown said:
Because no other club would match the contracts they all got from Meire, which is also why they only go on loan.Essex_Al said:
The question was:- How do you know (or anyone else!) we are paying these players wages?soapy_jones said:
Because we are run by an incompetent useless bunch of Belgian twats!limeygent said:How do we know we are paying these players wages? I understand that's most often the case when a youngster is loaned from a Prem club to a lower league, but how do we know who's paying what when we loan our players out? Just speculation?
Answer:- You don't!1 -
Hm, considering we've got rid of Gudmundsson, Pope, Cousins, Watt, Henderson, Dmitrovic and Igor and signed no-one since I think I'm not going to hold my breath on the 'freeing up of wages for incoming signings' being tipped by Ceballos leaving. He's been shuffled off because he's not suited to scrappy lower league football and was a daft signing.Essex_Al said:
I would imagine completely the opposite. Cellabos wages freed up to allow for incoming signings IMHO.cafc_harry said:Our only remotely creative midfielder gone to a network club, who will no doubt be technically be paying absolutely none of his wages.
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Possibly but we are still likely to be paying more than if we had never had them on the books, overall a negative.1
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1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?1 -
I would guess that if/when Teixeira goes, it will also be a loan deal. Other sides unlikely to offer the wages x contract length (4 more years) we have to a player who is 30 in a few weeks.
Season long loan I'd guess, like Vetokele, Watt, Ceballos and Sarr.0 -
If this thread is turning to wages i ask this.
Is it possible that Mr Slade himself was recruited on low wages, but was told he would get an absolutely massive bonus on promotion, and was told there would be plenty of largesse around to build a good squad?0 -
Accepted. Although whether the money is well spent or spent at all we'll have to see. I doubt if Slade wanted Ceballos anyway.Essex_Al said:
There could be an element of truth in that, but you're not telling me the loaning club are paying nothing, therefore we are freeing up money for incoming signings!Airman Brown said:
Because no other club would match the contracts they all got from Meire, which is also why they only go on loan.Essex_Al said:
The question was:- How do you know (or anyone else!) we are paying these players wages?soapy_jones said:
Because we are run by an incompetent useless bunch of Belgian twats!limeygent said:How do we know we are paying these players wages? I understand that's most often the case when a youngster is loaned from a Prem club to a lower league, but how do we know who's paying what when we loan our players out? Just speculation?
Answer:- You don't!1 -
She doesn't care about football, our league position, performance, or even what division we're in. All she cares about is hitting her own personal target set by Duchatelet to break even. If she has to lie to fans, managers and employees to do that then she will.Madz said:I have a horrible feeling that this lack of signings is exactly what some on Twitter are saying. Slade has said he wants particular players, KM offering him only Network players to which Slade is saying no. Ergo they are at a stalemate and no players coming in.
You'd hope that KM wouldn't honestly believe this team as it stands is one to take us back up. If she does then she is more delusional than any of us ever thought. The other theory is that she is not allowing players to come in to stick 2 fingers up the fans who hate her. Or and here is the real unrealistic theory, we are trying to sign players, getting turned down, being priced out or we will actually make signings soon. The last one sounds crazy when you say it out loud :-)3 -
I think all directors/ chairman / owners of football clubs should watch the film "The Damned United" about Brian Clough, Great snippets of how managers choose the players & the owners pay for them.
Simple.
In our sad case I feel that we will not sign anyone until somebody leaves first - only Tex , Lookman and maybe Hariott will command a fee and we are waiting offers to come for them, hence why no new signings over the past week when RS had indicated there were a few in the pipeline.
this coming season is going to be hard to watch.1 -
Right but that was 40 years ago when all you needed to do was turn up at Dave McKay's house and threaten to not leave until he signed. Scouting, sports science, statistics, and the size of the player pool (i.e. across Europe for us) has grown drastically. They kind of model is simply outdated.golfaddick said:I think all directors/ chairman / owners of football clubs should watch the film "The Damned United" about Brian Clough, Great snippets of how managers choose the players & the owners pay for them.
Simple.
In our sad case I feel that we will not sign anyone until somebody leaves first - only Tex , Lookman and maybe Hariott will command a fee and we are waiting offers to come for them, hence why no new signings over the past week when RS had indicated there were a few in the pipeline.
this coming season is going to be hard to watch.2 -
Letting Ceballos go is such a poor decision. Yes he is not a very good player and yes, he was not going to start games but our squad is so thin that we cannot afford to let players go out on loan until we have "5 or 6" through the door.
This club is an absolute joke.1 -
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Latest post from Ketts, few key points.
Teixeira has actually picked up a knock, but it's still looking like he'll leave.
1 or 2 likely to join this week before Bury. Rudd and Pearce the most likely.
Club still not decided on whether to offer a contract to Foley and Gobern.
Also mentions that only it's looking like Ba will be our only foreign player named on Saturday.
If this is accurate, as Ketts always tends to be, the fact that we've reached the first game of the season and will likely start it 4 players short is a disgrace.7 - Sponsored links:
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Quite literally millions.lancashire lad said:I wonder how much money they have waisted in 2 years by buying unsuitable players, not to mention the low or non existant fees received for players transfered our, must be a good few million.
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I posted earlier in the summer that judgement can't be passed on cellabos because we haven't seen him enough. I stand by this. Him going is dog shite because
1. He is the only centre midfielder we have that has an ounce of creativity in his bones
2. Our only centre midfielder who is under 30
3. Get rid of all non British players and we will get the excuse, British players and manager finished 15 in league 1, welcome nobby vinegar
4. We do not have a squad
He will be remembered for that corner and that is understandable but in our current predicament he is surley worth a place on the bench.....unless it's a simple case of Russell slade not fancying him as a player and wants him out to free up wages to sign a 36 year old on a 4 year deal2 -
Just looked at the OS article from when Ceballos first signed. This made me laugh:
"The Spaniard, primarily a midfielder but equally comfortable as a centre forward,"
Classic - I bet these bozos had been told that Ceballos could cover as striker by the network scouts. Can you imagine him playing as a centre forward in the Championship??!!0 -
Surprised Meire didn't sign him as a centre half.daveydanger said:Just looked at the OS article from when Ceballos first signed. This made me laugh:
"The Spaniard, primarily a midfielder but equally comfortable as a centre forward,"
Classic - I bet these bozos had been told that Ceballos could cover as striker by the network scouts. Can you imagine him playing as a centre forward in the Championship??!!2 -
Can he play in goal ?Airman Brown said:
Surprised Meire didn't sign him as a centre half.daveydanger said:Just looked at the OS article from when Ceballos first signed. This made me laugh:
"The Spaniard, primarily a midfielder but equally comfortable as a centre forward,"
Classic - I bet these bozos had been told that Ceballos could cover as striker by the network scouts. Can you imagine him playing as a centre forward in the Championship??!!3 -
Another 'investment' that we cut our losses on. I think he could have done a job for us, but like so many, we just let 'em go. Why isn't anyone being called to account for our terrible transfer policy - it's costing much more than the penny pinching savings of having cheap rubbish in the team.2
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The bit in bold screams out to me (although Mitov needs to be added to Ba)cafc_harry said:http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201608&date=20160801&time=0332
Latest post from Ketts, few key points.
Teixeira has actually picked up a knock, but it's still looking like he'll leave.
1 or 2 likely to join this week before Bury. Rudd and Pearce the most likely.
Club still not decided on whether to offer a contract to Foley and Gobern.
Also mentions that only it's looking like Ba will be our only foreign player named on Saturday.
If this is accurate, as Ketts always tends to be, the fact that we've reached the first game of the season and will likely start it 4 players short is a disgrace.
I know that Bauer, Kashi and Tex are injured, but even if they were fit we would only have 5 foreign players at the club (ignoring those out on loan).
Lessons being learnt, compared to a season or two ago where the only homegrown players were those that had come through the academy and Henderson?
Slade refusing foreign network signings, hence there being such a reliance on young players?
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It's either more money than sense, blind faith by the Douchbag in his 'adopted' daughter, love or a combination of those three, yuk.ken_shabby said:Another 'investment' that we cut our losses on. I think he could have done a job for us, but like so many, we just let 'em go. Why isn't anyone being called to account for our terrible transfer policy - it's costing much more than the penny pinching savings of having cheap rubbish in the team.
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RCC is injured. Lapsie is with the U21 as is Yam Fam.Athletico Charlton said:1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?6 -
To be honest, in this case I think it's less to do with a focused transfer policy and more to do with the fact we're a mess. Sure, the four signings so far have been British, but the main thing that's happened is the foreign chuff has been chucked, the decent foreign players have done one rather than play in L1 and we're left with the loyal core, the new signings and the contents of the academy. Looking at it, we have 18 proper first team players (holy shit you guys..) and five of them are foreign, not counting Mitov as he should still be considered developmental squad. And that doesn't count Bergdych because no-one actually knows where he is; there's been no proper announcement has there?Ross said:
The bit in bold screams out to me (although Mitov needs to be added to Ba)cafc_harry said:http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201608&date=20160801&time=0332
Latest post from Ketts, few key points.
Teixeira has actually picked up a knock, but it's still looking like he'll leave.
1 or 2 likely to join this week before Bury. Rudd and Pearce the most likely.
Club still not decided on whether to offer a contract to Foley and Gobern.
Also mentions that only it's looking like Ba will be our only foreign player named on Saturday.
If this is accurate, as Ketts always tends to be, the fact that we've reached the first game of the season and will likely start it 4 players short is a disgrace.
I know that Bauer, Kashi and Tex are injured, but even if they were fit we would only have 5 foreign players at the club (ignoring those out on loan).
Lessons being learnt, compared to a season or two ago where the only homegrown players were those that had come through the academy and Henderson?
Slade refusing foreign network signings, hence there being such a reliance on young players?
Basically, yeah, we've signed some British players but I'll hold off on claiming lessons have been learned while we can barely put out a full match day squad with senior players. And one of those players is Roger Johnson.4
