Don't get the hate for bringing in loans. Assuming they are good enough (I know big assumption) and can play in the positions we need, what's the problem? Many clubs (even us in the past) have benefited from use of the loan system. Don't understand the hate for it.
I think the vast majority of our loans have been unsuccessful and that was borne out by a comprehensive article in VOTV last season. The loanees are usually, in our case, only passing through and the clubs lending them out reportedly often want to attach conditions about playing time etc. It's a different matter if it's a loan with a view to a permanent transfer (e.g. Derek Hales) but we don't seem to go in for them these days. A lot of people also probably shudder when they recall the series of lamentable loan deals arranged by Pardew in 2007 and 2008, as we continued on our downward spiral.
As se9addick says, we want the club to selectively use the loan system, rather than trying to use it to prop up the squad. It is not a panacea for our lack of players. What is needed - and what we're now highly unlikely to get - are permanent signings where there is a reasonable prospect of those players still being at Charlton in three years time. As we all know, that's how you build a successful side - that and being able to hold onto your best young players for more than half a season.
Unfortunately, Duchatelet appears to be committed to a revolving door approach at all levels.
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
I hope the regime don't believe we can rely on our academy to get us out of this division.. However I must say some of the young players we have are more than capable of playing at this level.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
RCC is injured. Lapsie is with the U21 as is Yam Fam.
Thanks DP. Does anyone know how long RCC is out for/what the injury is? Also, how old are Lapsie and YamFam, assume they will not play a partthisseason if they have not made it through to what there is of a first team squad in pre season.
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
I hope the regime don't believe we can rely on our academy to get us out of this division.. However I must say some of the young players we have are more than capable of playing at this level.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
Having seen Hanlan in pre season, I would rate him as a better prospect than KAG or Umerah personally.
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
I hope the regime don't believe we can rely on our academy to get us out of this division.. However I must say some of the young players we have are more than capable of playing at this level.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
Having seen Hanlan in pre season, I would rate him as a better prospect than KAG or Umerah personally.
Hopefully they get game time and the boo boys don't get on their back too early as I can see Lookman being used as a wide player if he stays...
Just watched penalty shot out against Dutch team. Think them hexagon nets are going to be signing of the season for us. Well up to the job.beats last seasons signing of the sofa easy.
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
I hope the regime don't believe we can rely on our academy to get us out of this division.. However I must say some of the young players we have are more than capable of playing at this level.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
Having seen Hanlan in pre season, I would rate him as a better prospect than KAG or Umerah personally.
Hopefully they get game time and the boo boys don't get on their back too early as I can see Lookman being used as a wide player if he stays...
Lookman is wasted on the wing, we need him driving through the centre running at centre backs, all wishful thinking as he'll probably be gone by the end of the month :-(
Last month's CARD announcement "...Therefore we are making it clear at this stage that we do not plan to disrupt any of the club’s League One or League Cup matches in August..." can squarely be blamed for the preposterous Charlton transfer 'activity' this summer. The first hint that Douchebag, nightMeire and Tony big Bollox were gonna be left alone to ponse about with the club allowed them to close the purse and continue with whatever roly's toxic pantomime actually is. Obviously the clueless fucktards, ru(i)nning Charlton at present, didn't read any further about how we'll be making their lives a very public misery soon enough. But getting in a couple of british players and a british 3rd division manager they think was sufficient to appease us and pull the wool over our eyes until the transfer window closes and we're all stuck with the short-handed conference standard bunch of crocks and youngsters. So since the announcement we've seen the 'Out' door continue to swing and the bodies pile up in the hitherto unstaffed treatment room. Slade's 5 or 6 players in by the weekend (before last), may have been what RS had asked for but we've seen how much say he has in the transfer policy. We've all been had for mugs, with a side order of getting crapped on from a great height. If this Charlton squad can keep the goal difference better than -10 by the end of the first home fixture on 13th it will only be because Bury and Northampton are pony. South London Press article headlines to their next couple of Charlton match reports - "Bury-ed" and "Cobblers show Charlton a clean pair of heals" Christ this is gonna be miserable...
Igor was definitely up to it, unfortunately he got a nasty injury and was rushed back every time only causing more damage.
Does 'up to it' for a striker not include the ability to play more than a handful of games each season? Or also the ability to run about and score on even a vaguely regular basis?
I like Igor. In isolation his injuries have been unlucky. But in the wider context of half the squad not being capable of lasting a season, he really is just another failed transfer that has had to be given away for nothing.
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
I hope the regime don't believe we can rely on our academy to get us out of this division.. However I must say some of the young players we have are more than capable of playing at this level.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
Having seen Hanlan in pre season, I would rate him as a better prospect than KAG or Umerah personally.
Hopefully they get game time and the boo boys don't get on their back too early as I can see Lookman being used as a wide player if he stays...
Lookman is wasted on the wing, we need him driving through the centre running at centre backs, all wishful thinking as he'll probably be gone by the end of the month :-(
I agree to an extent but I think he can be very useful from the wing as he has so much pace and skill on the ball. Also can't see him playing up top alongside Ajose because we will lack height
1. How many players have left the squad since the end of the last season. I mean everyone, loans etc. Interesting to compare numbers.
2. Where is RCC?
3. Where is Lapsie
4. Where is the young lad who was our first signing of the summer?
I hope the regime don't believe we can rely on our academy to get us out of this division.. However I must say some of the young players we have are more than capable of playing at this level.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
Having seen Hanlan in pre season, I would rate him as a better prospect than KAG or Umerah personally.
Hopefully they get game time and the boo boys don't get on their back too early as I can see Lookman being used as a wide player if he stays...
Lookman is wasted on the wing, we need him driving through the centre running at centre backs, all wishful thinking as he'll probably be gone by the end of the month :-(
I agree to an extent but I think he can be very useful from the wing as he has so much pace and skill on the ball. Also can't see him playing up top alongside Ajose because we will lack height
Comments
If we take away the U21 players, have we sufficient senior professionals to make a matchday squad of 18?
Henderson
Motta Fanni Teixeira Suk-Young
Gudmundsson Diarra Ba Bergdich
Sanogo Makienok
Now it could read
Phillips
Solly, Johnson, Lennon, Holmes-Dennis
Holmes, Jackson, Crofts, Harriott
Ajose, Novak
That's just crazy how much of a change that is
As se9addick says, we want the club to selectively use the loan system, rather than trying to use it to prop up the squad. It is not a panacea for our lack of players. What is needed - and what we're now highly unlikely to get - are permanent signings where there is a reasonable prospect of those players still being at Charlton in three years time. As we all know, that's how you build a successful side - that and being able to hold onto your best young players for more than half a season.
Unfortunately, Duchatelet appears to be committed to a revolving door approach at all levels.
I do remember before Lookman came on the scene everyone was shouting about Josh Umerah, I think he'd be a great addition to the squad and I'd personally have him over KAG as back up as he looks a lot more physically suited to this division.
Obviously we still need 5-6+ players but some of the youngsters look like they can step up to the plate when needed, we live in hope...
Funny that I should say that...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/burnley-enter-race-celtic-transfer-8534859
"...Therefore we are making it clear at this stage that we do not plan to disrupt any of the club’s League One or League Cup matches in August..."
can squarely be blamed for the preposterous Charlton transfer 'activity' this summer.
The first hint that Douchebag, nightMeire and Tony big Bollox were gonna be left alone to ponse about with the club allowed them to close the purse and continue with whatever roly's toxic pantomime actually is.
Obviously the clueless fucktards, ru(i)nning Charlton at present, didn't read any further about how we'll be making their lives a very public misery soon enough. But getting in a couple of british players and a british 3rd division manager they think was sufficient to appease us and pull the wool over our eyes until the transfer window closes and we're all stuck with the short-handed conference standard bunch of crocks and youngsters.
So since the announcement we've seen the 'Out' door continue to swing and the bodies pile up in the hitherto unstaffed treatment room. Slade's 5 or 6 players in by the weekend (before last), may have been what RS had asked for but we've seen how much say he has in the transfer policy.
We've all been had for mugs, with a side order of getting crapped on from a great height. If this Charlton squad can keep the goal difference better than -10 by the end of the first home fixture on 13th it will only be because Bury and Northampton are pony.
South London Press article headlines to their next couple of Charlton match reports - "Bury-ed" and "Cobblers show Charlton a clean pair of heals"
Christ this is gonna be miserable...
I like Igor. In isolation his injuries have been unlucky. But in the wider context of half the squad not being capable of lasting a season, he really is just another failed transfer that has had to be given away for nothing.