Well EA I am not sure the statistics really support your assertions on Wagstaff.
2011/12 - 34 League One appearances 2012/13 - 7 League One and 9 Championship appearances 2013/14 - 37 League One appearances 2014/15 - 26 League One appearances 2015/16 - 9 Championship appearances
I have left off his FA Cup appearances. I have no idea of any injuries he has had during these seasons to limit his availability but I strongly suggest the guy is proven at a L1 standard.
You are entitled to your opinion but you do not get to make nearly 200 senior appearances by the age of 26 if you are not making some contribution to the clubs concerned.
I do not suggest he is a world beater and as I recall his biggest problem was as a "bits and pieces" player finding any settled position within the team. Unfortunately he never quite excelled at any one particular role.
However over a full League One season such players are valuable. I have no idea whether he has progressed or not but I would be happy to see the guy in the squad if for no other reason than others will always be looking over their shoulder knowing there is a guy who will run through brick walls for the shirt and the club.
Equally you know he will be up for it on the proverbial "freezing November night in Grimsby or wherever"
Squad spirit is built on such players. Sometimes you really do just need the right type of guy.
Why do some people want to keep signing ex-players ?? They had their time here & moved on....as so you should do too !!!!
Simply because we know there ability and not going on someone who claims to have watched Burton 36 times despite being a season ticket holder at Charlton. I'd have Waggy back if only as back up/keeping first choice on their toes. I think I people who wouldn't have him back don't have a realistic view of what sort of squad we or any 3rd tier club will have.
I think there are a lot of people that are going to be very disapointed if they think that we are going to have a squad of 22 players IN LEAGUE 1 where Waggy wouldn't be an asset.
Some people probably think our transfer dealings will be so successful, he'll be playing second fiddle to Ronaldo,
At the local whist drive? One doing the washing up, the other the drying up? Explain yourself.
I think you'll find Dick was having some fun with Henry!
I'll let you off of a whoosh this time
That just sounds wrong. Wagstaff was a real 100 per cent trier. I would like to think we have moved on since Waggy's days, but I feel we haven't. But if we are serious about getting out of League one we need better players.
Fair enough we all see it differently, but personally I would much prefer us to be signing up and coming young talent such as the winger from Crawley that we have been linked with, rather than an old has been such as Waggy!
You're calling a 26 year old player who has been promoted from League One twice an old has been? You do come out with the weirdest stuff. This 'up and coming young talent' from Crawley, what exactly do you know about him? Because it seems like you can't even remember his name, so what are you basing your claim that he's better than Wagstaff on? Incidentally he's only three years younger than Wagstaff at 23, he's hardly a teenager breaking onto the scene.
Don't think it's weird at all, he wasn't very good the first time he was here, hardly made the Bristol City team over the past three years, so why on earth would we want him back now?
The weirdest thing is how many of you live in the past!
You don't think it's weird to call a 26 year old an old has been? OK, never mind then.
You haven't answered my question though. What do you know about this up and coming Crawley player whose name you don't know that makes him better?
I've got to own up and thought Waggy was older than 26, so 'has been' is probably unfair, but he is L2 at best!
All I know about the lad Edwards at Crawley is he is highly thought of and scores some cracking goals. If he came to us I would certainly give him a chance to prove his worth and I would rather this scenario than going back in time to watch a lad who as Large said is undoubtedly Charlton and works his socks off, but for me that is not enough, it wasn't then and wont be now!
Waggy, who has been promoted from League One twice and who played an important role in our first Championship season when we were really struggling, playing out of position as well, is L2 as best? I'm not a huge Waggy fan and I'm not bothered about having him back, but that's just nonsense I'm afraid.
We need to buy players who can get us out of division 3, who are then able to hold their own in the Championship.
All the people saying he's a league two player are talking out their backside. I'm throwing facts out here, his lat 3 seasons in league one he finished 1st, 12th, 1st playing over 100 games and scoring 18 goals. He didn't feature much in the championship but then that isn't the debate. Surely if he was a league 2 player Bristol Rovers wouldn't be coming in for him. He's a decent solid League 1 player who has immense fitness and work rate and will always give the full back great protection. He also chips in with a goal or two from being in the right place. His brief cameo at the Valley where he helped see out the game told me not much has changed with his Fitness or work rate either.
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2011/12 - 34 League One appearances
2012/13 - 7 League One and 9 Championship appearances
2013/14 - 37 League One appearances
2014/15 - 26 League One appearances
2015/16 - 9 Championship appearances
I have left off his FA Cup appearances. I have no idea of any injuries he has had during these seasons to limit his availability but I strongly suggest the guy is proven at a L1 standard.
You are entitled to your opinion but you do not get to make nearly 200 senior appearances by the age of 26 if you are not making some contribution to the clubs concerned.
I do not suggest he is a world beater and as I recall his biggest problem was as a "bits and pieces" player finding any settled position within the team. Unfortunately he never quite excelled at any one particular role.
However over a full League One season such players are valuable. I have no idea whether he has progressed or not but I would be happy to see the guy in the squad if for no other reason than others will always be looking over their shoulder knowing there is a guy who will run through brick walls for the shirt and the club.
Equally you know he will be up for it on the proverbial "freezing November night in Grimsby or wherever"
Squad spirit is built on such players. Sometimes you really do just need the right type of guy.
I can only think of Roger Johnson, and there's a reason not to do it!
I'll let you off of a whoosh this time
Powell
Wagstaff fits the bill perfectly.
I'll never forgive him for choosing his boyhood and local club ahead of working for Roly and Kitty.