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  • Watford sack another one.


  • edited October 2021
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58625601

    Harry Kewell has been sacked by National League Barnet, after just 7 games in charge, which delivered just 2 draws

    A bit of a revolving door there this year!
    So just marginally worse than Adkins.
    ????

    Adkins has had 19 games in charge I believe. Won 7 Drawn 5 Lost 7

    Think he meant this season not total.

    21/22 league season 
    P11W2D3 L6
    But he said "just 7 games in charge"  hence my comparison. Kewell's record was P7 W0 D2 L5

  • Scoham said:
    Miles is a Watford fan. Have they lost games against teams they should be beating?


    mmm .. similar comments have been made about our manager
    Maybe Adkins has been speaking Spanish to the players.
    that is a REAL LOL 10/10  :D
    But yet, you didn’t lol it 😂
  • Ranieri being linked with Watford.
  • That's cruel Scoham..but I like it
  • There are around 8 million reasons Steve Bruce won’t be too upset when he’s sacked! 
  • There are around 8 million reasons Steve Bruce won’t be too upset when he’s sacked! 
    I don't know why some managers like Allardyce, Bruce etc bother after a certain point, especially those at the types of clubs where you won't win anything but could get relegated.

    You're worth millions, why bother with the stress?  Play golf, get paid for a bit of punditry, spend the money on posh holidays, much easier.
    We shouldn't perhaps overlook the fact that he is a Geordie. Hypothetically speaking, personally i couldn't walk away from being sacked from cafc without a massive feeling of hurt and regret, regardless of the size of the pay off. 
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  • There are around 8 million reasons Steve Bruce won’t be too upset when he’s sacked! 
    I don't know why some managers like Allardyce, Bruce etc bother after a certain point, especially those at the types of clubs where you won't win anything but could get relegated.

    You're worth millions, why bother with the stress?  Play golf, get paid for a bit of punditry, spend the money on posh holidays, much easier.
    They love football though, and if you really love being involved in the game, then nothing else comes close to being on the training ground every day.
  • Think I saw that he's on 999 games in management and the game against Spurs next week was going to bring up the big 1000.

    Given the career he has had both playing and in management you'd have to assume he is reasonably well off and I suspect reaching that milestone probably means more to him than any kind of pay off. Be nice if the new owners let him reach it before getting rid but be surprised if they do. 


  • Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football. 

    Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
  • Kips said:
    Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football. 

    Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
    He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.


  • Great stat Scoham. 

    I bet there are not many other managers with similar on their CV, especially in the prem league era.  Peter Taylor perhaps...
  • edited October 2021
    Scoham said:
    Kips said:
    Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football. 

    Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
    He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.


    I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?

    He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either. 

    He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.

    It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
  • Scoham said:
    Kips said:
    Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football. 

    Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
    He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.


    I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?

    He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either. 

    He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.

    It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
    That is the short term nature of managing any football team. The average time of a manager of a pro football team in England is something like 18 months. Back in the 1960s it was four years. The demand for instant success and immediate "reward" for failure has made it the most perilous of jobs.

    Which is why I would like us to give Adkins a little more time. What happens when our next Manager goes half a dozen games without winning? Do we sack him too and start again?
  • Scoham said:
    Kips said:
    Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football. 

    Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
    He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.


    I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?

    He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either. 

    He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.

    It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
    That is the short term nature of managing any football team. The average time of a manager of a pro football team in England is something like 18 months. Back in the 1960s it was four years. The demand for instant success and immediate "reward" for failure has made it the most perilous of jobs.

    Which is why I would like us to give Adkins a little more time. What happens when our next Manager goes half a dozen games without winning? Do we sack him too and start again?
    No because we do not have a history of sacking managers after half a dozen games.

    fans were calling for bowyers head but TS didn’t sack him. Fans have been calling for Adkins head but TS hasn’t sacked him.
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  • And another one....Chris Beech sacked by Carlisle United.

    This has been coming, albeit a case of what might have been. They were top of L2 around Xmas 2020. They then had 9 games postponed in 43 days and barely played in jan 2021. They lost their way trying to play catch up and ended up finishing mid table.

    This season only 2 wins leaves them 22nd.
  • Scoham said:
    Kips said:
    Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football. 

    Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
    He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.


    I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?

    He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either. 

    He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.

    It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
    That is the short term nature of managing any football team. The average time of a manager of a pro football team in England is something like 18 months. Back in the 1960s it was four years. The demand for instant success and immediate "reward" for failure has made it the most perilous of jobs.

    Which is why I would like us to give Adkins a little more time. What happens when our next Manager goes half a dozen games without winning? Do we sack him too and start again?
    No because we do not have a history of sacking managers after half a dozen games.

    fans were calling for bowyers head but TS didn’t sack him. Fans have been calling for Adkins head but TS hasn’t sacked him.
    I didn't say "after half a dozen games" but "goes half as dozen games without winning". Some posters on here definitely started to call for Adkins head, if not before, then following the defeat against Cheltenham which was our 6th League game of the season. 

    In the 86 year period between 1920 and 2006 we had 17 Managers. In the last 15 years we've had 14 permanent appointments. That doesn't smack of a club, in recent times, who have earned a reputation for sticking with their Managers and that stat only serves to support my assertion above - that clubs, us included, pull the trigger far quicker than we once did.

  • Kips said:
    And another one....Chris Beech sacked by Carlisle United.

    This has been coming, albeit a case of what might have been. They were top of L2 around Xmas 2020. They then had 9 games postponed in 43 days and barely played in jan 2021. They lost their way trying to play catch up and ended up finishing mid table.

    This season only 2 wins leaves them 22nd.
    We can't afford Carlisle to go down, we need them back up in L1 asap, so that we can clinch promotion there!

    Cloughie at Mansfield must be under pressure too
  • Quote by the late Bill Shankly from the biographical film 'The Three Kings' .. 'there is only one job more precarious and dangerous than that of a football club manager, that's being employed as a Glasgow debt collector' 
  • It looks like Bruce has survived an immediate sacking and will reach his 1000th game this weekend

    You imagine he'll get presented with a commemorative vase or trophy before the game, and his P45 after it!
  • 6th loss in 7 games for Birmingham. Bowyer could be moving on soon enough 
  • Ooo there has been a sacking somewhere.

    Its shockingly.... at Newcastle - Steve Bruce has been sacked!!
  • Steve Bruce has left Newcastle by mutual consent:
    I was very tempted to start a new "Managerial Departure" thread, but I figured half of you would hunt me down for getting your hopes up.
  • edited October 2021
    Come on the Saudis, pay us £10m compensation and take Adkins  ;)
  • Bruce going was inevitable but I like that they gave him his 1000th game before doing it
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