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Karl Robinson Press Conference - Snippets from pg.4
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Says the bloke from the north west.... are you relatedaltrinchamaddick said:Many posters are saying under normal/other circumstances they would be enthused by this appointment. I would say be enthused. I know it is all rhetoric at this time, and Karl has to do the walk, but he did come across as knowledgeable and committed.
Fans need to divorce the manager and team from the regime. We have had poor owners in the past, and I personally would love to be back in the championship, so lets get behind those that will write this new chapter of our history.
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Does he have a badge for turd polishing? Fact is we have only one attacking creative wide player and he's injured 0
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I like him, considering the situation I think he's the best we could probably get right now and today's press conference video (not really a conference, just a chat mind) has given reason to be positive for me, which is a first as I didn't feel it with Slade...
I hope, and it's more of a dream if anything is who he brings in behind the scenes. He speaks of unity, imagine achieving that by bringing in someone like Curbs or Powell in as Director Of Football, hopefully no one would be negative about such a move1 -
I don't view myself as an apologist. I support Charlton, I don't like many of the mistakes that the present owner/ CEO have made. I view myself as a realist, we are where we are and I'm looking for ways to unite the fans to support the team, and hopefully push for promotion.Redskin said:Apologist: Charlton Life's very own Godwin's Law.
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Interview was impressive. What also impressed me was the fact that the reason KR was in Paris was because he had been trolling around European football clubs looking at how things were done. What did he call it "a study tour". This certainly implies that he is a committed and keen student of the game and is looking to learn everything he can. This to me is hugely encouraging. Well done Karl. You have my 100% support.16
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Sounds the same as my 'volunteering' on my cvShootersHillGuru said:Interview was impressive. What also impressed me was the fact that the reason KR was in Paris was because he had been trolling around European football clubs looking at how things were done. What did he call it "a study tour". This certainly implies that he is a committed and keen student of the game and is looking to learn everything he can. This to me is hugely encouraging. Well done Karl. You have my 100% support.
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The thing is though that the majority of people who have this view or say it at the ground just moan or tut loudly.altrinchamaddick said:
Depends how you define supporting the team. Is singing 'We want Roland out' the Katrien Meire song etc, etc, during the match, supporting the team? I've heard the arguements that this has no effect on the results, along with chucking stuff onto the pitch, but I beg to differ.bromleyjohn said:Ok supporting the team and not the regime; is that controversial?
Games are won and lost on small margins, and any negative vibes might affect the result. People who are intelligent enough to compose witty songs ( and I'm not!) should develop songs to applaud the workrate and skill of Josh Maginess, maybe a Karl Robinson song, a song for Dillon Phillips.
All the effort seems to be directed towards poor owners, I don't remember any songs against Slater and Jimenez, in my mind as poor as Duchatelier.
So, when we talk about supporting the team, lets do it properly, support the team, without the diversion of knocking the regime during the game.
If this is the true extent of feeling at The Valley on matchdays then why are these same people not starting the so-called positive chants?
It's all "they should be doing this" and "they should be singing this" on messageboards or to the person sat next to them in the ground without having the courage of conviction to actually do it themselves.
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What about Botaka ?razil said:Does he have a badge for turd polishing? Fact is we have only one attacking creative wide player and he's injured
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Has anyone commented on his comment that RD went to Paris to meet him and that he had 2330 meeting at the Valley with KM.0
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Very impressive interview. Lots to be optimistic about but one thing I really liked was the constant references to communication. Good luck Karl. COYRs
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A god question, and I don't know the answer. I'm getting on a bit, so won't be leading the chants. I think the singing comes from younger supporters, mainly based in the North Stand, I will certainly try to join in from the East, although I do get strange looks when I join in with the traditional chants.WSS said:
The thing is though that the majority of people who have this view or say it at the ground just moan or tut loudly.altrinchamaddick said:
Depends how you define supporting the team. Is singing 'We want Roland out' the Katrien Meire song etc, etc, during the match, supporting the team? I've heard the arguements that this has no effect on the results, along with chucking stuff onto the pitch, but I beg to differ.bromleyjohn said:Ok supporting the team and not the regime; is that controversial?
Games are won and lost on small margins, and any negative vibes might affect the result. People who are intelligent enough to compose witty songs ( and I'm not!) should develop songs to applaud the workrate and skill of Josh Maginess, maybe a Karl Robinson song, a song for Dillon Phillips.
All the effort seems to be directed towards poor owners, I don't remember any songs against Slater and Jimenez, in my mind as poor as Duchatelier.
So, when we talk about supporting the team, lets do it properly, support the team, without the diversion of knocking the regime during the game.
If this is the true extent of feeling at The Valley on matchdays then why are these same people not starting the so-called positive chants?
It's all "they should be doing this" and "they should be singing this" on messageboards or to the person sat next to them in the ground without having the courage of conviction to actually do it themselves.0 -
You just did. I thought it sounded impressive.0
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Great interview. I now wish I was going Saturday.0
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As I said on another thread, he needs to meet up with the hardcore support, if he wants to understand the current situation, not the usual hand-picked Stepford fans It doesn't need to be publicised or has to be one of the fan groups. To overcome the current entrenched position on both sides, he needs to get involved in some diplomacy work and understand how he can improve the situation.Justin20474 said:Wants to learn more about fan protests!! I'm sure Matt Holland would have told him all about them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38144882
He is a former Liverpool season ticket holder. He will remember the Hicks/Gillett ownership and the problems they caused. He will be aware of the work done by the Spirit of Shankley Group, who weren't having their attitude and the way they operated. Liverpool FC is a club steeped in history and embedded into the local community. If he doesn't recognise that this is a similar situation and can't relate to the depth of feeling in the stands at this club, then he is ignoring his own heritage.
If he chooses to ignore the situation, as Brussell did, nothing will change and Congo Chris will be in before his seat goes cold.
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"Matt, the laundry department have been on to me about how much the workload is at the moment, and I hoping you'd be able to show our players how to keep their shorts as clean as you did"ForeverAddickted said:Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial 2h2 hours ago
There was a familiar face at Sparrows Lane yesterday in the form of ex-skipper @mattholland8! #cafc
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial 2h2 hours ago
The former Addicks number eight was invited to the training ground by Karl Robinson to give him the lowdown on all things Charlton. #cafc
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No, the protest fund paid for a big banner saying just that last season.bromleyjohn said:Ok supporting the team and not the regime; is that controversial?
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Fake scarfyValley11 said:Scarfy
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Fuck patience, let's be aggressive, that's the way forward2
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I'm thinking Karl might get to know the network sooner rather than later if he listens to tomorrow's podcast.4
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Good to see so much positivity for KR. Haven't watched the interview yet, will do so later.
But does he remind you of anyone? Late thirties, fairly new to management, northern accent, full of ideas, full of energy? Charlton in the doldrums.
Nah, he never played for England ;-)6 -
Thought they were a bit hasty putting up that sign.jdmotion said:Good to see so much positivity for KR. Haven't watched the interview yet, will do so later.
But doesn't he remind you of anyone? Late thirties, fairly new to management, northern accent, full of ideas, full of energy?
Nah, he never played for England ;-)
The Karl Robinson Stand sounds better than the Jimmy Seed Stand. Let's not live in the past, move on.6 -
Hard not to like him. When we signed Lennie I thought we would go to the dogs. Thought the appointing of Curbs and Gritt was disastrous. Nearly wet myself when we got Pardew. So I know absolutely nothing! It's all about loads of hard work, lots of skill and a huge portion of luck. KR is soon going to find out that the majority of fans (imo) would rather get rid of Duchatelet than win promotion. That is quite a negative! Still, good luck to him.2
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Where are you getting that stat from?thewolfboy said:Hard not to like him. When we signed Lennie I thought we would go to the dogs. Thought the appointing of Curbs and Gritt was disastrous. Nearly wet myself when we got Pardew. So I know absolutely nothing! It's all about loads of hard work, lots of skill and a huge portion of luck. KR is soon going to find out that the majority of fans (imo) would rather get rid of Duchatelet than win promotion. That is quite a negative! Still, good luck to him.
Doubt very much that that is true.3 -
Like what he's saying, but something about the presentation style irritates me. He's a bit too much of a self publicist. Really there is nothing wrong with being like that but it comes across a bit 'American'. I'm reminded a bit of how I felt when Pardew first joined us - the words were right but I didn't trust them. I'm old school and prefer my managers to be be blunt and a but miserable - that's why some of the stuff Slade came out with never really bothered me.
That said, it refreshing for us to have a manager who seems to be thinking somewhat modern and isn't closed minded to new ideas and practices. Given it's resurgence in the Premier League and our surplus of centre backs and lack of wingers - don't be surprised if we're playing 5-3-2 in a couple of weeks time.0 -
Not sure it's the majority of fans in the stadium. Almost certainly not.thewolfboy said:KR is soon going to find out that the majority of fans (imo) would rather get rid of Duchatelet than win promotion. That is quite a negative!
If boycotters were counted? Maybe.0 -
Not sure it's the majority of fans in the stadium. Almost certainly not.thewolfboy said:KR is soon going to find out that the majority of fans (imo) would rather get rid of Duchatelet than win promotion. That is quite a negative!
If boycotters were counted? Maybe.0 -
Point of order: Why can't you 'like' a comment and 'lol' a comment?
Forget that. I guess if you lol, then it's taken for granted you like.
But not the other was round.
So much to learn, so little time.2 -
The sensitivity on here is exceptional.
It reflects, as indeed do many of the comments from the executive, a lack of understanding of a players clubhouse and the industry in general.
In terms of any playing performance the protests are an irrelevance. I believe people have stated the relevant results statistically. People's personal bias is getting in the way. Do you seriously think a player who has spent probably 5 years trying to get to play League football is going to be put off by a few flying objects and a few chants? If he is he should not be on the pitch.
You realise for the preceding 5yrs most will have worked their "nuts off" to get to that level. You do not think they have overcome all sorts of physical & verbal personal abuse from opponents and on occasion their own coaches to get there.
At the bottom of the football pyramid you knew every week someone was goes to test you physically & verbally to find out whether you would compete. More than a few meant you physical harm. That is professional football. You either responded or you would be in for a difficult afternoon/ evening. No matter your talent if you cannot learn to compete you will have no career. Professional football is not an afternoon tea party it is a physically & mentally demanding competitive pursuit.
As for Robinson I understand the hopes invested in this appointment. For those still interested however and everything suggests those numbers continue to dwindle the majority want, and still spend their coin, hoping to see every Manager, Coach and player representing the club succeed.
It is the shared experience. WE SHARE in the buzz, in the pride. It matters. There is no special badge of honour about wanting to be positive. It is engrained in the psyche of the majority of supporters even when their side is heading for relegation.
However come a match day afternoon as per Swindon and such positivity will have drained away to any emotion from compete disinterest to vitriolic anger. It is human nature - no more than that. You may as well complain the sky is blue.
Robinson may indeed be the right appointment at the right time. May be he has lucked out over his predecessors in that just maybe the executive have finally grown up and managed to get up to speed, not just for today but for the duration of his contract.
Yet at this stage only the most supreme optimist will see the appointment of yet another new face, in itself, as the birth of a new era when the primary decision makers remain the same. To criticise those who retain a healthy scepticism is your right but as of now the evidence suggests it is they who retain a stronger hold on the reality of the situation.
The comments from Robinson largely mirror those of 90% of those from new managers since time began. If you cannot be positive on the first day of the job then you took the wrong job.
I have no reason to doubt Robinsons' comments on O' Loughlin. If the latter can make a contribution why would any manager turn that aside especially if it earns a few "brownie" points along the way. Robinsons' own football CV before rising through the ranks at MK Dons is hardly stellar reading.
As we all should recognise by now 2-3 months in SE7 in footballing terms is very long time indeed. Should COL prove to be surplus to requirements over that period then so be it.
At worst I would argue Robinson has put himself in control of this situation. Does it carry risk? Of course. Can Robinson manage such risk? We can but hope he can. Could it undermine his appointment? Possibly, but who is to say COL would not have been kept around in the background anyway. Always better to have your challenges in full sight rather than lurking in the shadows.
I wish Robinson every success. As always however he will need to be empowered to do the job.
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Thread's over. See you all at the next game.0
