Let's take away ownership, and lack of funds, a few days before a mass protest in Belgium, let's take all Blame away from Roland, and whilst we're at it shift Blame away from me, This clown might luck his way to the end of the season, then no money will come in, no players will come in and this circus carries on, this whole fucking lot need to go, I doubt any of them "thank there lucky stars" to play for a club rotten to the core owned by some crusty Belgian prat.
Given his allusions to things happening before the game allied to his raging about players not sticking to what had been practised on the training ground, I wonder if the player in effect rebelled over his tactics/selection/existence in the dressing room pre-match and this rant is actually more about him defending himself to Meire/Duchatalet rather than an honest assessment of the situation.
The comments about the players - allied to the aside about the ones he brought in getting injured - also suggest that this is a swipe at those his predecessors have signed, again something which suggests he is preparing his defence.
Surely he'd have known about the issues he alludes to before or during January ? Why not deal with it then and ship them out ? Magennis didn't seem to be a problem pre-Tarbuck or even in the early days of his "reign". This isn't the first time he's hinted at players faults - so why the eff pick them ?
That dressing room, if it wasn't before, is lost. We won't win another game this season unless he goes.
Liked Robinson when he came and was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the guy is simply not up to the task, and in just over 3 months he's seemingly alienated the entire squad. We've picked up 3 points from Fleetwood, Wimbledon, oldham, Rochdale, Oxford, Bury and Shrewsbury. Absolutely fucking pathetic. What players are going to want to play for him after that interview? Training will be fun tomorrow.
Added to that, MK Dons have picked up massively since he left them and are now above us, whilst we're in freefall.
If it wasn't for Nugent, we'd be in the relegation zone.
The bloke was probably still in shock that his coaching manual was wrong all along. Score 2 and we win, score 2 and we win, score 2 and we win. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh feck like
This is not the first time he's mentioned rebuilding like Chris Powell did after are a poor previous half season getting to know the players etc. But the first time he's named SCP bet that goes down well with RD & KM
Meire referenced Powell's rebuilding herself last summer.
We were going to do the same last summer.
Has she said anything about "we underestimated League 1" yet?
How can Robinson assert that it is nothing to do with ownership when he says "40% of the squad don't care enough"?
The squad has been assembled by four or five separate managers, two different head scouts and a stats nerd in Belgium. It is full of short term contracts and loans.
That is so clearly a recipe for a squad that lacks cohesion and spirit.
How can Robinson assert that it is nothing to do with ownership when he says "40% of the squad don't care enough"? The squad has been assembled by four or five separate managers, two different head scouts and a stats nerd in Belgium. It is full of short term contracts and loans. That is so clearly a recipe for a squad that lacks cohesion and spirit.
Not too sure that Robinson's rant last night will do too much to bring them all together into one happy, cohesive unit. Would take time out to watch a live stream of today's pre-training chat between players and manager ...
Went into it on the back of a decent run, the piece in The Times about 'healing the club' being more important than the promotion push that seemed to be in the offing and having cleared out the 'dead wood' in the transfer window....now he seems to have found some more!
Either he is being used as a patsy by Roland/KM etc, or he has willingly taken on that role, because otherwise someone would be telling him to keep some of his thoughts to himself in front of the media. And it's not as if the club hasn't bought in a lot of PR help in the last few months.
What he says is of little interest to most outside the club, but is going to being picked over word by word by fans and he is digging himself deeper into a hole.
Main question is at what point Roland will decide he is no longer useful and pay him off.
I'm making this up - I'm not in the know - but I'd fully expect any appointment like this to have, say, a six-month break clause in the contract with a fairly minimal pay-off. (A bit like a probationary period in a regular permanent staff contract.) My guess, therefore is that Duchatelet regularly gets rid of managers before he gets to the stage of actually having to shell out for the full 2 and half year payout, loyalty bonus or whatever. Have any of his appointments lasted more than six months?
Anyway, in my view, if Robinson hasn't gone by the end of the season, then he's here for the duration.
In that case, Roland's comms people will be along soon with a roll of duct tape to wrap round his gob.
I never got to bed until 2.00 so only just caught up with the after match blame game.
You have final say on the team and tactics(within the Douchbags parameters) Karl and by mouthing off so much since you've been here you've dug your own grave and now you are pulling up the rope ladder.
All chat, nowhere near enough substance and what little team spirit you had has completely evaporated now. You've been sussed by the players who will now shaft you following that outburst. Should've kept the basics like defending as a unit to the fore never mind all this 4-2-3-1 shit!
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 7m7 minutes ago Johnnie Jackson has echoed Charlton boss Karl Robinson - saying some of the players at the club are "not giving their all".
I'm not one for kicking out managers. We need to build again which means backing a manager through the bad times. Exactly what we needed to do with Parkinson and didn't. However, this bloke needs to go and go today. He is starting to look like a complete disaster and we simply cannot get relegated. Robinson simply has to go so that relegation can be avoided. Give Rowett a 5 year deal on top money.
That is simply not going to happen is it?
The problems at this club are caused by the ownership. Robinson was sacked by a club that was near the bottom of this league and Slade has never been promoted in 20 years of management and when he left us he went to the only club that that is more mis-managed than we are. No half decent manager is going to work under Duchatelet and Maire.
The idea that Rowett or someone like him would manage at Charlton is risible.
Oh to have a manager that could bring a dressing room together, generate camaraderie, have everyone fighting for the cause. A man you could trust, a man you could believe in, a man who says it like it is.
He seems to care and he talks with passion, but how he can say its nothing to do with the owner is beyond me. The business starts from the top. He complains that he has no defenders and Fox gets mentioned, well who the hell made the decision to sell him if we didn't have proper cover. My bet RD cashing in and if it was a problem why didn't KR dig his heels in and stop it, probably the same reason all our previous managers suffered Roland over ruled it, yet it has nothing to do with the owner.
You could go on and question the whole interview content of contradictions.
This is the second interview he has intimated things are drastically wrong at the club yet he can't do anything about it. Why not! Come clean Karl and if it is just a player problem pick the youth players and drop the ones 'dogging a bullet' because we are looking buggered anyway, so it isn't going to matter.
I believe Ulvestad is one of them too, he mentioned coming from Premier League clubs, just because he didn't start doesn't mean he may not be a problem of not caring enough.
I think maybe Botaka and possibly Watt as unfortunately his name always comes up in discussions like this. But since he's come back he has always gave the impression he really cares and wants to be here.
Would someone like Crofts be part of this, would be surprising but can't rule it out surely?
Guess we will find out in time, but for the time being, we are screwed and relegation is a real possibility...
I believe Ulvestad is one of them too, he mentioned coming from Premier League clubs, just because he didn't start doesn't mean he may not be a problem of not caring enough.
I think maybe Botaka and possibly Watt as unfortunately his name always comes up in discussions like this. But since he's come back he has always gave the impression he really cares and wants to be here.
Would someone like Crofts be part of this, would be surprising but can't rule it out surely?
Guess we will find out in time, but for the time being, we are screwed and relegation is a real possibility...
Relegation looks a strong possibility.
Desperate interview with KR who looks on the verge of tears - wtf is going on in the dressing room?
Club is in an even bigger mess than I realised. How the f*** can we compete without any team spirit? We've got a crap owner, crap manager and players that don't want to be here.
KR should have been a bit wiser in his words - how can he realistically manage a side where's he slagged off most of the players available to him. Roll on Saturday....
Most of our players played under Slade. We were nowhere near as poor or close to the bottom 4 then. That was followed by a superb caretaker spell by Nugent. KR takes over and suddenly we're beset by player issues AFTER a transfer window where he could have done what he likes with the squad.
It's smoke and mirrors. Deflects from the fact that he only plays a formation which doesn't suit us and deflects from the way the club is run.
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The comments about the players - allied to the aside about the ones he brought in getting injured - also suggest that this is a swipe at those his predecessors have signed, again something which suggests he is preparing his defence.
Magennis didn't seem to be a problem pre-Tarbuck or even in the early days of his "reign".
This isn't the first time he's hinted at players faults - so why the eff pick them ?
That dressing room, if it wasn't before, is lost. We won't win another game this season unless he goes.
Added to that, MK Dons have picked up massively since he left them and are now above us, whilst we're in freefall.
If it wasn't for Nugent, we'd be in the relegation zone.
We were going to do the same last summer.
Has she said anything about "we underestimated League 1" yet?
The squad has been assembled by four or five separate managers, two different head scouts and a stats nerd in Belgium. It is full of short term contracts and loans.
That is so clearly a recipe for a squad that lacks cohesion and spirit.
Get your cases ready Mrs Vinegar.
Went into it on the back of a decent run, the piece in The Times about 'healing the club' being more important than the promotion push that seemed to be in the offing and having cleared out the 'dead wood' in the transfer window....now he seems to have found some more!
Either he is being used as a patsy by Roland/KM etc, or he has willingly taken on that role, because otherwise someone would be telling him to keep some of his thoughts to himself in front of the media. And it's not as if the club hasn't bought in a lot of PR help in the last few months.
What he says is of little interest to most outside the club, but is going to being picked over word by word by fans and he is digging himself deeper into a hole.
Main question is at what point Roland will decide he is no longer useful and pay him off.
Anyway, in my view, if Robinson hasn't gone by the end of the season, then he's here for the duration.
In that case, Roland's comms people will be along soon with a roll of duct tape to wrap round his gob.
You have final say on the team and tactics(within the Douchbags parameters) Karl and by mouthing off so much since you've been here you've dug your own grave and now you are pulling up the rope ladder.
All chat, nowhere near enough substance and what little team spirit you had has completely evaporated now. You've been sussed by the players who will now shaft you following that outburst. Should've kept the basics like defending as a unit to the fore never mind all this 4-2-3-1 shit!
Better get that CV updated pdq.
Johnnie Jackson has echoed Charlton boss Karl Robinson - saying some of the players at the club are "not giving their all".
The problems at this club are caused by the ownership. Robinson was sacked by a club that was near the bottom of this league and Slade has never been promoted in 20 years of management and when he left us he went to the only club that that is more mis-managed than we are. No half decent manager is going to work under Duchatelet and Maire.
The idea that Rowett or someone like him would manage at Charlton is risible.
In answer to 'what can you do about it?' 'Nothing'.
Good to know none of this is your fault Karl. Just a fat Scouse Pardew
You could go on and question the whole interview content of contradictions.
This is the second interview he has intimated things are drastically wrong at the club yet he can't do anything about it. Why not! Come clean Karl and if it is just a player problem pick the youth players and drop the ones 'dogging a bullet' because we are looking buggered anyway, so it isn't going to matter.
I believe Ulvestad is one of them too, he mentioned coming from Premier League clubs, just because he didn't start doesn't mean he may not be a problem of not caring enough.
I think maybe Botaka and possibly Watt as unfortunately his name always comes up in discussions like this. But since he's come back he has always gave the impression he really cares and wants to be here.
Would someone like Crofts be part of this, would be surprising but can't rule it out surely?
Guess we will find out in time, but for the time being, we are screwed and relegation is a real possibility...
Desperate interview with KR who looks on the verge of tears - wtf is going on in the dressing room?
Club is in an even bigger mess than I realised. How the f*** can we compete without any team spirit? We've got a crap owner, crap manager and players that don't want to be here.
KR should have been a bit wiser in his words - how can he realistically manage a side where's he slagged off most of the players available to him. Roll on Saturday....
That was followed by a superb caretaker spell by Nugent.
KR takes over and suddenly we're beset by player issues AFTER a transfer window where he could have done what he likes with the squad.
It's smoke and mirrors. Deflects from the fact that he only plays a formation which doesn't suit us and deflects from the way the club is run.