thinking about this. what is the benefit in the club saying there is no chance of purchase by fawad? very little, if anything they'd want to talk it up to get other bidders active. so if Cawley has been told that I'm inclined to believe it. perhaps what bowyer said is true...rd isn't prepared to sell to just anybody.
on the other hand they could be aware that fans will be running about a sale to fawad and denying it purely to prevent more protests etc.
I really hope the aussies come through this. the little info I have heard on them make me thibk they'll be good owners even if they don't have pots of cash like rd and fawad. they may be more competent and understand the fabric of football and fans.
that type of leadership served us well in the 90s after all.
I reckon the Aussies will be making their move within the next 12-24 months.
I heard within the next 5 years
First rule of the Aussie bid
There is no Aussie bid
Oh but there is. Because it has been submitted to the EFL for the ODT. And according to @Addickted , it passed. And the EFL are apparently a bit pissed off that de Turck goes round suggesting otherwise.
I'm not sure of the legality, but I think it would be great if the EFL kept a public register of all applications and results. That might focus a few minds. Especially if the introduced some more appropriate (stringent) criteria.
I have been thinking that. However the EFL in its current guise would never accept such a thing. They see themselves as responsible to the clubs only. As such they think that an owner has the right to entertain as many bids as he sees fit and the terms of such bids are nobody else's business. Underpinning this is the dangerous but still popular notion that football clubs are simply individual private businesses. That IMO is what has to change but very few fans outside the Trust/activist world see this.
I am hoping that at least we can push for a register of successful ODTs but even some of my CAST colleagues seem reluctant even to go for that.
@PragueAddick as you are here can you answer some questions for me? Don't mean to single you out but I am sure you would be able to answer.
What do you actually want to EFL to do in a situation like ours? As far as I am aware you can't force the sale of a private company.
What constitutes bad ownership? Who judges who is a good owner and who is a bad one. In the last 6 months I have seen public criticism of the owners from clubs ranging from Manchester United and Chelsea to Chesterfield and Torquay.
I would suggest, at anyone time, half of the fans of the 100 odd professional clubs in this country would have a gripe against their ownership. Where is the line?
If the ELF could take harsher action against "poor" owners, who would step in and pay the bills? About 80 clubs loose money every year, who is going make up the shortfall?
Do you think there would the current bad feeling against current owners if say Charlton, Coventry and Blackburn were all in the top half of the championship? Even if the off the field situations were the same?
One of the main criticisms of RD, and by forest fans, was hiring/firing managers, do you think the EFL, or anyone else, should have a say on this?
The same goes for player recruitment as well. Its subjective isn't it?
Your notice I haven't mentioned Blackpool or orient as I believe these are very different cases to the ones mentioned.
Thanks in advance. Happy to take off line if you prefer.
They are very good questions, and certainly one which all Supporters Trusts are thinking hard about. The only thing you've written with which I take issue is that Blackpool and Orient are "different". We are all surely examples of patently bad governance and this has to be addressed across football. That said, you are asking, what is good governance, and how can it be enforced? I think it would be very useful to have a debate on this with all Lifers able to contribute. I have some ideas but they are far from road-tested, and others will have better ones, of that I am sure. So my proposal would be to start a separate thread specifically to discuss this, using your questions as the kick off point. Not sure how much time I will have for it over the weekend but will do my best.
Thank you for addressing my question, I look forward to the other thread.
Imo Blackpools ownership has been proven to of illegally aset stripped and orient was outrightly and deliberately damaging. I don't think you can say the same about others.
After today's news at the EFL protest. It's obvious #TeamWIOTOS was built on a Belgian waffle. In our need of a new trustworthy source, #TeamWRCROI is born from the ashes When Richard Cawley Reports On It
After today's news at the EFL protest. It's obvious #TeamWIOTOS was built on a Belgian waffle. In our need of a new trustworthy source, #TeamWRCROI is born from the ashes When Richard Cawley Reports On It
I reckon the Aussies will be making their move within the next 12-24 months.
I heard within the next 5 years
First rule of the Aussie bid
There is no Aussie bid
Oh but there is. Because it has been submitted to the EFL for the ODT. And according to @Addickted , it passed. And the EFL are apparently a bit pissed off that de Turck goes round suggesting otherwise.
Wooooosh
Have you ever watched fightclub
You need to chill a bit it’s called banter
Surely that'd be
First rule of the Aussi bid
You don't talk about the Aussie bid.
Which actually is what I wish had been the case since day 1
In 2 weeks time we'll wake to find out that Andrew Muir was actually a fantasy alter ego of @JamesSeed and the consortium and bid was a consequence of his writers block and sleep deprivation.
I think the rumour about not selling due to NDA is actually Roland saying the oz takeover won't happen due to breaking NDA with the joint statement the club put out months ago, which he probably forgot about and/or only saw when he went on to post the other statement about the EFL
Anyone who thinks Roland won't sell to Fawaz if the price is right, regardless of any NDA break or not .... needs a bucket of cold water over their head. Of COURSE he would sell!
I did spot @AFKABartram deep in conversation with @JamesSeed at the demo yesterday, no doubt sharing their collective inside info, but they changed the subject when I went over.
The story so far: Eccentric Flemish/Walloon owner buys famous London ex premier League club at a boot sale to add to his network of clubs. Appoints his young female muse as CEO who has no experience other than she was once Akela to a Brussels cub scout group. Plus he appoints a young kid in his bedroom as chief scout.
Standard Liege fans warn Cafc fans on social media that Douchebag/shitweasel is like the pied Piper who will entice the young talent before they disappear and he gets a 20% cut. (Money goes to money) A rag bag of footballers from the network are foisted on the manager including a keeper who can't use his hands.
Popular manager CP can't work under this Diktat and is sacked at KO/HT in cup match after disobeying orders from above.
Charlton fans are revolting and the middle-age men who had their picture taken with Katrina the day she had her short leather black skirt feel shame. (guilty as charged) Katie after having the sofa surgically removed from where the sun don't shine and known for her porky pies departs into the middle of next week.
Meanwhile from the safety of his Brussels bunker shitweasel wants to sell a League 1 club for a Championship price. More pages than War and Peace ensues with Charlton winning the comedy club gold beating Blackpool and Coventry.
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, Here I'm stuck in the middle of sale of Charlton thread with You.
Even The Daggers sale has been done & dusted before us now...Tim Howard (ex Man U keeper) has put a consortium together...looking rather good for them now,can see us playing them again in the not to distant future if we still have Douchtwat in charge & god forbid Bowyer walks/gets snapped up by next season...
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WELCOME FAWAD!
I am hoping that at least we can push for a register of successful ODTs but even some of my CAST colleagues seem reluctant even to go for that.
What do you actually want to EFL to do in a situation like ours? As far as I am aware you can't force the sale of a private company.
What constitutes bad ownership? Who judges who is a good owner and who is a bad one. In the last 6 months I have seen public criticism of the owners from clubs ranging from Manchester United and Chelsea to Chesterfield and Torquay.
I would suggest, at anyone time, half of the fans of the 100 odd professional clubs in this country would have a gripe against their ownership. Where is the line?
If the ELF could take harsher action against "poor" owners, who would step in and pay the bills? About 80 clubs loose money every year, who is going make up the shortfall?
Do you think there would the current bad feeling against current owners if say Charlton, Coventry and Blackburn were all in the top half of the championship? Even if the off the field situations were the same?
One of the main criticisms of RD, and by forest fans, was hiring/firing managers, do you think the EFL, or anyone else, should have a say on this?
The same goes for player recruitment as well. Its subjective isn't it?
Your notice I haven't mentioned Blackpool or orient as I believe these are very different cases to the ones mentioned.
Thanks in advance. Happy to take off line if you prefer.
They are very good questions, and certainly one which all Supporters Trusts are thinking hard about. The only thing you've written with which I take issue is that Blackpool and Orient are "different". We are all surely examples of patently bad governance and this has to be addressed across football. That said, you are asking, what is good governance, and how can it be enforced? I think it would be very useful to have a debate on this with all Lifers able to contribute. I have some ideas but they are far from road-tested, and others will have better ones, of that I am sure. So my proposal would be to start a separate thread specifically to discuss this, using your questions as the kick off point. Not sure how much time I will have for it over the weekend but will do my best.
Imo Blackpools ownership has been proven to of illegally aset stripped and orient was outrightly and deliberately damaging. I don't think you can say the same about others.
It's obvious #TeamWIOTOS was built on a Belgian waffle.
In our need of a new trustworthy source,
#TeamWRCROI is born from the ashes
When Richard Cawley Reports On It
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9V8Wj_1536929794
#hushhush
Eccentric Flemish/Walloon owner buys famous London ex premier League club at a boot sale to add to his network of clubs.
Appoints his young female muse as CEO who has no experience other than she was once Akela to a Brussels cub scout group.
Plus he appoints a young kid in his bedroom as chief scout.
Standard Liege fans warn Cafc fans on social media that Douchebag/shitweasel is like the pied Piper who will entice the young talent before they disappear and he gets a 20% cut. (Money goes to money)
A rag bag of footballers from the network are foisted on the manager including a keeper who can't use his hands.
Popular manager CP can't work under this Diktat and is sacked at KO/HT in cup match after disobeying orders from above.
Charlton fans are revolting and the middle-age men who had their picture taken with Katrina the day she had her short leather black skirt feel shame. (guilty as charged)
Katie after having the sofa surgically removed from where the sun don't shine and known for her porky pies departs into the middle of next week.
Meanwhile from the safety of his Brussels bunker shitweasel wants to sell a League 1 club for a Championship price.
More pages than War and Peace ensues with Charlton winning the comedy club gold beating Blackpool and Coventry.
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right,
Here I'm stuck in the middle of sale of Charlton thread with You.
HUH.
This thread is now, to quote John Lennon, bigger than Jesus.
Cmon Roly...Sell the club & do fuck off...!!
Football clubs are a business, if a manager at your company is underperforming you are within your rights to sack him.