Just take a second and think about what you're saying. Because it looks very much like you're saying you're as mentally stable as Roland. Is that what you'd like people to be thinking..?
Just take a second and think about what you're saying. Because it looks very much like you're saying you're as mentally stable as Roland. Is that what you'd like people to be thinking..?
Actually it is £70m + £7M in loans to directors, which is not included. £77M. Spot on to my prediction.
I just understood how RD thinks. Many of you kept saying "He can't as for that, its absurd!" Or, "no one is going to pay that much!" or "He can't possibly demand a profit given we are one league lower!"
Well, he did. And he is.
He is crazy enough to lose more and more money every month rather than be... rational. The difference is that I was 100% correct in my assessment of the situation while most here kept thinking he would be rational. To me it was an obvious situation.
I think the verdict is in. I was right. And I was right 1500+ pages ago. Meanwhile we have many so-called "smart people" here who kept saying "Two weeks away" or "Announcement on Tuesday!" They were 100% wrong. And here we are almost 2 years later.
Sorry to gloat but I took a lot of crap for 2 years. So I feel justified in pointing out I was the one here who wound up closest to the facts. Have a good weekend!
Just take a second and think about what you're saying. Because it looks very much like you're saying you're as mentally stable as Roland. Is that what you'd like people to be thinking..?
Actually it is £70m + £7M in loans to directors, which is not included. £77M. Spot on to my prediction.
I just understood how RD thinks. Many of you kept saying "He can't as for that, its absurd!" Or, "no one is going to pay that much!" or "He can't possibly demand a profit given we are one league lower!"
Well, he did. And he is.
He is crazy enough to lose more and more money every month rather than be... rational. The difference is that I was 100% correct in my assessment of the situation while most here kept thinking he would be rational. To me it was an obvious situation.
I think the verdict is in. I was right. And I was right 1500+ pages ago. Meanwhile we have many so-called "smart people" here who kept saying "Two weeks away" or "Announcement on Tuesday!" They were 100% wrong. And here we are almost 2 years later.
Sorry to gloat but I took a lot of crap for 2 years. So I feel justified in pointing out I was the one here who wound up closest to the facts. Have a good weekend!
Mic drops are banned mate ;-) Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s never been a 100% known price as far as I’m aware. £70m would certainly account for why no sale has happened though. I’ve never heard anything about the business side of the deal so wouldn’t know, but haven’t people been saying £40m? Personally I’d say that he was a fool for turning down £30m.
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Hey, I just read the end of your post and you’ve given me crap, despite bemoaning the fact others have you crap. Dual standards. Anyway, I never said ‘two weeks’, or ‘announcement on Tursday’, I merely repeated was GM thought was going to happen. In his words. And now we’d all love to know what he’s thinking I expect. But I doubt he has a clue what’s happening, because he’s dealing with Roland.
He is a total fool for not taking £35M. I have just accepted he is a total fool and never think he will change. Unless he feels.... threatened. If what transpired last week continues, I think he may finally want to cut his losses.
I hate to point this out, but as I understood it, the £30-35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. It had to be given the old nutter wants 70M. In that deal, RD would keep both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed to the contrary. RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in the sale. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. All the other bidders were in the same boat, which is why RD claimed "the price has been agreed." RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between fixed assets (£42M) and soft assets (£30M.) This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
dry for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry. Be careful what you wish for.
I hate to point this out, but the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets and soft assets. This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry.
That’s wrong. First thing GM told me that their bid was 100% for the club and grounds. He said they wouldn’t want one without the other.
I hate to point this out, but as I understood it, the £30M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets (£42M) and soft assets (£30M.) This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
dry for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry. Be careful what you wish for.
What makes you think that? It seems that there's no reliable source for the figure or for what might or might not have been included. And, of course, all parties would have been under NDA.
I hate to point this out, but as I understood it, the £30M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets (£42M) and soft assets (£30M.) This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
dry for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry. Be careful what you wish for.
What makes you think that? It seems that there's no reliable source for the figure or for what might or might not have been included. And, of course, all parties would have been under NDA.
What's your source for this speculation?
There’s a reliable source for what was included. GM.
I hate to point this out, but the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets and soft assets. This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry.
That’s wrong. First thing GM told me that their bid was 100% for the club and grounds. He said they wouldn’t want one without the other.
Yep. I know. I am fine if what I believe is eventually proven wrong. Really am! But 22 months after this thread started, and my £70M number is now the number most quoted in press accounts. How do you reconcile that? I am just going with the facts as I see them. I think if one thing can be learned so far it is that "insiders" have been nothing but wrong for almost 2 years. At some point one just had to cut bait.
I hate to point this out, but the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets and soft assets. This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry.
That’s wrong. First thing GM told me that their bid was 100% for the club and grounds. He said they wouldn’t want one without the other.
Yep. I know. I am fine if what I heard is eventually proven wrong. Really am! But 22 months after this thread started, and my £70M number is now the number most quoted in press accounts. How do you reconcile that? I am just going with the facts as I see them. I think if one thing can be learned so far it is that "insiders" have been nothing but wrong for almost 2 years. At some point one just had to cut bait.
Only the facts matter. I doubt anyone really cares who said what, when. We just want someone to buy the flippin’ club.
What’s in the press isn’t alway right anyway. Personally I think you might well be right, but that doesn’t make it a fact. It’s facts that we are lacking.
@NapaAddick I don’t dig anyone out on here but have a think about what you’re posting. You seem like a good bloke but you’re coming across more than a bit weird in this occasion.
@NapaAddick I don’t dig anyone out on here but have a think about what you’re posting. You seem like a good bloke but you’re coming across more than a bit weird in this occasion.
Of course I am weird, I can understand how RD's mind works.
I hate to point this out, but the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets and soft assets. This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry.
That’s wrong. First thing GM told me that their bid was 100% for the club and grounds. He said they wouldn’t want one without the other.
Yep. I know. I am fine if what I believe is eventually proven wrong. Really am! But 22 months after this thread started, and my £70M number is now the number most quoted in press accounts. How do you reconcile that? I am just going with the facts as I see them. I think if one thing can be learned so far it is that "insiders" have been nothing but wrong for almost 2 years. At some point one just had to cut bait.
"the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and stadium"
I hate to point this out, but the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets and soft assets. This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry.
That’s wrong. First thing GM told me that their bid was 100% for the club and grounds. He said they wouldn’t want one without the other.
Yep. I know. I am fine if what I believe is eventually proven wrong. Really am! But 22 months after this thread started, and my £70M number is now the number most quoted in press accounts. How do you reconcile that? I am just going with the facts as I see them. I think if one thing can be learned so far it is that "insiders" have been nothing but wrong for almost 2 years. At some point one just had to cut bait.
"the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and stadium"
I hate to point this out, but the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club
and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and
stadium, despite the BS that old bat Murray claimed .RD was going to develop
apartments as well, which he would keep in that deal. CAFC would then
have been charged a lease for the assets. RD changed the asset valuation so he could value it in the breakup of the club between hard assets and soft assets. This is why I 180'd on the Aussie deal prospect six months ago. And the Aussies could not even
find the money for that crummy arrangement! It would have been worse than the present situation. I would rather have RD owning it
all and losing his marbles than selling the club and draining the club
for a decade-plus by owning the stadium and training ground. The latter situation is the literal end of the club. We would have become Leyton or Coventry.
That’s wrong. First thing GM told me that their bid was 100% for the club and grounds. He said they wouldn’t want one without the other.
Yep. I know. I am fine if what I believe is eventually proven wrong. Really am! But 22 months after this thread started, and my £70M number is now the number most quoted in press accounts. How do you reconcile that? I am just going with the facts as I see them. I think if one thing can be learned so far it is that "insiders" have been nothing but wrong for almost 2 years. At some point one just had to cut bait.
"the £35M Aussie bid was only for the club and brand. In that deal, RD was keeping both the training ground and stadium"
I will not comment on this topic anymore and will no longer try. I really hope everyone's hope and beliefs about Roly selling the whole club at some rational price comes to pass. I really do. For me, no longer looking at the Brexit or Trump threads have made a noticeable positive difference in my experience on this board. By jettisoning this one as well, I think I will be happier, still. Life is too short. Wake me up when we start a new thread "Official: Takeover Announced" and this one is finally closed. Until then, I am no longer interested in this endless thread. It's a negative energy drain. I don't want to come here for that anymore. Good luck!
I will not comment on this topic anymore and will no longer try. I really hope everyone's hope and beliefs about Roly selling the whole club at some rational price comes to pass. I really do. For me, no longer looking at the Brexit or Trump threads have made a noticeable positive difference in my experience on this board. By jettisoning this one as well, I think I will be happier, still. Life is too short. Wake me up when we start a new thread "Official: Takeover Announced" and this one is finally closed. Until then, I am no longer interested in this endless thread. It's a negative energy drain. I don't want to come here for that anymore. Good luck!
You didn’t really need to slate people in your posts.
I will not comment on this topic anymore and will no longer try. I really hope everyone's hope and beliefs about Roly selling the whole club at some rational price comes to pass. I really do. For me, no longer looking at the Brexit or Trump threads have made a noticeable positive difference in my experience on this board. By jettisoning this one as well, I think I will be happier, still. Life is too short. Wake me up when we start a new thread "Official: Takeover Announced" and this one is finally closed. Until then, I am no longer interested in this endless thread. It's a negative energy drain. I don't want to come here for that anymore. Good luck!
It's a long time ago now but I'm fairly certain that Napa's suggestion of 77 million was mocked because he argued (repeatedly) that it was the true value of the club and that's what it would sell for. Well, it hasn't sold and any guesses in the national press that Duche wants 77 million are only included to demonstrate how insane he is.
It's a long time ago now but I'm fairly certain that Napa's suggestion of 77 million was mocked because he argued (repeatedly) that it was the true value of the club and that's what it would sell for. Well, it hasn't sold and any guesses in the national press that Duche wants 77 million are only included to demonstrate how insane he is.
Yes and on the company accounts thread which I bumped, it's shown that the land is worth £11.7M and the rebuilding costs of the buildings, after 20 years depreciation is £42M.
So arguably the club is worth £11.7M.
What it's not worth is £77M and if it was it would have been sold already.
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Just take a second and think about what you're saying. Because it looks very much like you're saying you're as mentally stable as Roland. Is that what you'd like people to be thinking..?
Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s never been a 100% known price as far as I’m aware. £70m would certainly account for why no sale has happened though. I’ve never heard anything about the business side of the deal so wouldn’t know, but haven’t people been saying £40m? Personally I’d say that he was a fool for turning down £30m.
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Hey, I just read the end of your post and you’ve given me crap, despite bemoaning the fact others have you crap. Dual standards.
Anyway, I never said ‘two weeks’, or ‘announcement on Tursday’, I merely repeated was GM thought was going to happen. In his words.
And now we’d all love to know what he’s thinking I expect. But I doubt he has a clue what’s happening, because he’s dealing with Roland.
What's your source for this speculation?
What’s in the press isn’t alway right anyway. Personally I think you might well be right, but that doesn’t make it a fact. It’s facts that we are lacking.
Are these "facts", @N@NapaAddick ?
Bet they don’t.
My guess is that the Aussie offer was for the club and Rolly in his mind separates the two things and the deal stalls.
Nobody is going to pay £35m for a couple of sets of shirts and a bunch of soon to be worthless contracts.
Lol.
Well, it hasn't sold and any guesses in the national press that Duche wants 77 million are only included to demonstrate how insane he is.
So arguably the club is worth £11.7M.
What it's not worth is £77M and if it was it would have been sold already.
#OWWSOWP
thats my guess am i right ?