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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Fuck you Shitweasel.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Pudds said:
    What if Roland partook in some brinkmanship. said get it done by x date or the price goes up as we are now in the league above as an attempt to try and hurry it along and the boat was missed? Seems like a theory that brings all the loose ends together...
    Think you might be getting confused with season ticket sales.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    1852, Kings Cross Station opened.
    Thinks of a reply involving David Pleat, but then wonder if it's libellous...
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    1852, Kings Cross Station opened.
    Thinks of a reply involving David Pleat, but then wonder if it's libellous...
    How do you know that a prostitute comes from Luton? She's got a pleat in her skirt!
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    By the time we ever get back to the premier League the £7m will be largely insignificant given the ever increasing prize money. Really don't see how it's an issue.

    The other joke is that maybe RDs valuation wouldn't be as insane if we actually had some playing assets. Especially now in the championship given some of the transfer fees that are being paid.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Something odd going on here.
    2 very decent signings last week. Purrington for cash and possibly one other today.

    If a takeover was close I would have thought a kind of self serving embargo would have been installed by Roland until it's done. Add that to the fact he hates our guts. I can see no reason for him to do anything that would aid us next season.

    Has Roland got some sort of focus on next season?  He's clearly not interested in giving us away.
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,722
    If Dalman really has walked how comes Cardiff City haven't put out a statement yet?

  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Takes a lot longer than hour fifteen to walk from Charlton to Cardiff mate ffs
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    If Dalman really has walked how comes Cardiff City haven't put out a statement yet?

    I don't suppose they really need to?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459

     club directors — technically termed ‘debenture shareholders’ — who are owed a total of £7m should the club reach the Premier League.

    It is believed several of these individuals want payment to settle the debts now.


    Is this right?


    I always thought it was no Biggie for the former directors?

    Or is one of them digging their heels in where one potential group is concerned and not the other group?

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    They can’t demand payment until the club reaches the PL
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    I read that as, if you want me to settle the debt now, I want paying thanks.

    or I’m happy to keep the debt there indefinitely and get paid in full later if and when we reach the premiership like I signed up to Ta. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    I read that as, if you want me to settle the debt now, I want paying thanks.

    or I’m happy to keep the debt there indefinitely and get paid in full later if and when we reach the premiership like I signed up to Ta. 
      That's not how it reads though is it?

    It's being made to sound like the ex directors are holding things up individually.
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    Chizz said:
    1853, The first pillar box is erected in Carlisle.
    Stewards' enquiry: Trollope had nine installed in the Channel Islands in 1852. 
    In fairness, @happyvalley was only talking about the first one erected in Carlisle...
  • If Dalman really has walked how comes Cardiff City haven't put out a statement yet?

    As far as they're concerned he was never 'in'. His statement a few weeks back dismissed the rumours and stated how he was fully committed to Cardiff so from their side, they probably don't feel like they need to issue one.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    I read that as, if you want me to settle the debt now, I want paying thanks.

    or I’m happy to keep the debt there indefinitely and get paid in full later if and when we reach the premiership like I signed up to Ta. 
      That's not how it reads though is it?

    It's being made to sound like the ex directors are holding things up individually.
    That's what RD/LDT is telling the buyers though. It's conveyed in his statement on June 7th. It's why some of them were "threatened" with exposure that week.

    As far as I know, Dalman hasn't even spoken to the three ex-directors supposedly causing a problem. Why should he? It's not his issue, it's RD's.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman apparently couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline I assume. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently.
    Aussies waiting for Roland to see sense I think.  
    Thank you Shaw Taylor
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    I read that as, if you want me to settle the debt now, I want paying thanks.

    or I’m happy to keep the debt there indefinitely and get paid in full later if and when we reach the premiership like I signed up to Ta. 
      That's not how it reads though is it?

    It's being made to sound like the ex directors are holding things up individually.
    That's what RD/LDT is telling the buyers though. It's conveyed in his statement on June 7th. It's why some of them were "threatened" with exposure that week.

    As far as I know, Dalman hasn't even spoken to the three ex-directors supposedly causing a problem. Why should he? It's not his issue, it's RD's.
      Seems an odd thing to report considering you said the ES info has come from Dalman.

    Sounds more like Murray twisting the knife.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Chizz said:
    1853, The first pillar box is erected in Carlisle.
    Stewards' enquiry: Trollope had nine installed in the Channel Islands in 1852. 

    You leave Happyvalley's erection alone
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1854, The U.K. declares war on Russia so joining The Crimean War.
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    They can’t demand payment until the club reaches the PL
    You watch we will get promoted to the prem the year everyone realises what a con pay TV is and sky cancel the TV rights, TV money goes down to zero and the club enter administration due to the ex directors loans. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    edited July 2019


    What an informative, educational and entertaining thread this is.

    Long may it continue



    #teamWIOTOS
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Has the possibility occured to anyone that Roland doesn't actually own the club at all and it's this tiny legal detail that's holding up everything .



  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    bobmunro said:
    CafcSCP said:
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
    Then accept the liability for the director loans, complete the deal, and then pay them off when the other £7m is available.
    This. Does whoever buys the club need clean title from day one  ?? Just buy the f**king club & sort out the directors later. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,671
    I refuse to believe that the directors loans are stopping the sale of the club from going through. 
    The loans only total 7mil.and they don't need to be repayed until we reach the premiership. 
    I am convinced that something else is causing this delay. 
    Almost certainly Shitweasel at fault  
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    They can’t demand payment until the club reaches the PL
    That was my initial thinking. Who ever planted the story in the ES doesn't know the full facts. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Has the possibility occured to anyone that Roland doesn't actually own the club at all and it's this tiny legal detail that's holding up everything .



    Schröland’s takeover, he’s simultaneously selling and buying the club at the same time.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    OMG I'M SO SURPRISED TO SEE A TAKEOVER UPDATE THAT IS NEGATIVE !
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited July 2019
    Nice to see all the positive attitudes towards our prospects next year.Throwing money at players is not always the answer(Sunderland,Portsmouth),good managers (Curbishley,Powell) can build teams without spending fortunes.We got up last year without spending,many people said we would get relegated.Get players in with a point to prove,and who want to play for the club rather than look only at what the wages are.I have a grudging respect for RD in not paying inflated wages,which the club cannot afford.
    This shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the economics of football. We had the third highest valued squad last year in League One and finished... third. We had the 4th highest the year before and finished 6th. In other words, we did about what our wage bill suggested we would do. We may not have spent much in the transfer market but we did have good squads for the league we were in. 

    This year, we will have lowest wage bill in The Championship and this makes us very likely relegation fodder. If not this year then very soon. They are apples and oranges. All the data shows that if you spend less than the league average wage bill in your division, the odds of relegation go up and up. We will be 1/3 the average wage bill in The Championship, dead last. Roland being a low spender last year was foolish. But this year it will be incompetent. 

    Finally, the wages in this division are not “inflated.” They are what they are. Roland is trying to break even financially and this had been openly stated. To attempt to break even in football is never a good idea unless you are the top 6 clubs in the world. But to try to break even in the Championship, and taking the extra £6-7M in turnover this season and putting it all in his pocket and letting all our best players go is a one way ticket back to League One.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Has the possibility occured to anyone that Roland doesn't actually own the club at all and it's this tiny legal detail that's holding up everything .



    Maybe Zabeel bought us after all, but kept it quiet...
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