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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • oldbloke said:
    Doesnt Dalman have connections with Chinese?
    Yes.  He owns/runs Envision Real Estate Capital Partners, which is a vehicle used for funding Chinese property speculators' acquisitions.  
  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
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  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
  • JamesSeed said:
    Dalman apparently couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline I assume. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently.
    Aussies waiting for Roland to see sense I think.  
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman apparently couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline I assume. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently.
    Aussies waiting for Roland to see sense I think.  

    I don't think Roland has got any sense, so the Aussies are going to be waiting a lot longer
  • CafcSCP said:
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
    Then accept the liability for the director loans, complete the deal, and then pay them off when the other £7m is available.
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  • Roland hates his partner and kid(s) so much he's leaving the sale of Charlton to be concluded by them when he finally shuffles off in 2033. Who knows where we'll be by then, but I suspect a lower division, maybe even non league.
    I'm up for a visit to Flanders in a few months to see if we can find any of his relatives and try to talk some sense into them because sure as hell Roland isn't selling
  • rananegra said:
    Roland hates his partner and kid(s) so much he's leaving the sale of Charlton to be concluded by them when he finally shuffles off in 2033. Who knows where we'll be by then, but I suspect a lower division, maybe even non league.
    I'm up for a visit to Flanders in a few months to see if we can find any of his relatives and try to talk some sense into them because sure as hell Roland isn't selling
    I don't think they'll be keen to bite the hand that feeds them.
  • edited July 2019
    bobmunro said:
    CafcSCP said:
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
    Then accept the liability for the director loans, complete the deal, and then pay them off when the other £7m is available.
     
  • edited July 2019

    No way would you close a deal minus all of the money.
    I don't buy the fact that he couldn't raise the cash. You'd agree the deal in principle and complete when the rest is in place.
    Maybe Dalman has walked!! (to the bank to get the 7m  
  • edited July 2019
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    I think that a price may have been agreed between RD and Dalman, and the funds secured by Dalman. But then RD pulled the £7m needing to be payed on top of initial agreed price out the hat, meaning at that / this point, Dalman don't have enough to proceed. Causing them to fall out
  • edited July 2019
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
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  • Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    I'm not saying it's right, just speculating at the current state of affairs
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  • Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    Does RD want it paid off as any deals agreed involve leaving some of the debt to him? If the club goes into administration in future and the director loans are still there they’d be paid back ahead of him? Is that right?
  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    I think that a price may have been agreed between RD and Dalman, and the funds secured by Dalman. But then RD pulled the £7m needing to be payed on top of initial agreed price out the hat, meaning at that / this point, Dalman don't have enough to proceed. Causing them to fall out
    Which happened to the Aussies too. 
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  • edited July 2019
    Scoham said:
    Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    Does RD want it paid off as any deals agreed involve leaving some of the debt to him? If the club goes into administration in future and the director loans are still there they’d be paid back ahead of him? Is that right?
    If the existing charges are cleared then two shits would have a first charge for any debts he leaves with the new owners, assuming the debt was secured on the assets.

    But I thought the £33m or £40m with the loans paid was leaving clean title. He can’t expect £33m and the outstanding debt to Staprix (c£68m I believe) staying with the club. That values the deal at £100m which is clearly lunacy.
  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    I think that a price may have been agreed between RD and Dalman, and the funds secured by Dalman. But then RD pulled the £7m needing to be payed on top of initial agreed price out the hat, meaning at that / this point, Dalman don't have enough to proceed. Causing them to fall out
    Which happened to the Aussies too. 
    I was waiting for that. How many months and investers ago was that?
  • edited July 2019
    bobmunro said:
    Scoham said:
    Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    Does RD want it paid off as any deals agreed involve leaving some of the debt to him? If the club goes into administration in future and the director loans are still there they’d be paid back ahead of him? Is that right?
    If the existing charges are cleared then two shits would have a first charge for any debts he leaves with the new owners, assuming the debt was secured on the assets.

    But I thought the £33m or £40m with the loans paid was leaving clean title. He can’t expect £33m and the outstanding debt to Staprix (c£68m I believe) staying with the club. That values the deal at £100m which is clearly lunacy.
    Doesn’t need to be all of the existing Staprix debt and in any case that £61m (2018) includes his purchase layout, so adding all of it would be double-counting.

    Remember, LDT said one of the “agreed” deals included a further payment for promotion. There is no way he is going to leave that future payment as unsecured debt, IMO. 
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