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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Blucher said:
    I think that hopes were raised by our Play-Off Final win - justifiably so, given the additional interest in the club from prospective purchasers following promotion. The difficulty, of course, is that Duchatelet decided to move the goalposts - despite LdT's pronouncement a month previously to the contrary - and the £7million former directors' loans have become a sticking point. It's also been suggested that Duchatelet wants further contingent payments in the future in the event of promotion to the Premier League and any receipt of sell-on fees following the sale of players. He really does have some brass neck.

    Supporters' anger was boiling over at the farce surrounding Lee Bowyer's contract but Duchatelet's volte-face on that issue temporarily calmed things down, given the natural relief and euphoria that Lee was staying. We are, however, now facing the prospect of going into a fiercely competitive league with an under-resourced squad and the mishandling of Aribo and Konsa has only exacerbated people's frustrations. Anger is starting to simmer and once the transfer window closes and all hope of a deal disappears, I am sure that the protests will resume in a very forceful way, both here and in Belgium.
    Spot on. 
  • edited July 2019
    The problems have been mitigated by Bowyer but they are still there for all to see. We were very lucky Bowyer didn't tell Roland to F off but we are in a situation where the only way we can win next season is by getting promoted. If we do badly and get relegated, we lose and if we do well and have a decent season, we will lose the manager!

    If we got promoted, things would change, but Bowyer, great manager that he has shown us he is, will have his work cut out on a relegation budget. Roland is not the full ticket and despite what he says, he is not that desperate to sell for anything other than a silly amount, otherwise he would have. So sadly we have to hope against hope that Bowyer performs a minor miracle.

    Having said that. I decided during the close to last season and the play offs that I would enjoy it for what it was and not have great expectations about what is to follow. And I really did enjoy it. I am not looking at the new season with great enthusiasm, although I recall I didn't to last season. The players Bowyer brings in and most importantly, the loans have to be judged for what they are when we know what they are. Cullen and Bielik would start to get the juices flowing again. 
  • addick05 said:
    I know I'm on a different planet here, but what if - by the end of October say - we're sitting 3rd in the league?
    Or top
  • addick05 said:
    I know I'm on a different planet here, but what if - by the end of October say - we're sitting 3rd in the league?
    Or top

    Oh come on, that's stretching the bounds of credibility somewhat!
  • addick05 said:
    I know I'm on a different planet here, but what if - by the end of October say - we're sitting 3rd in the league?
    Then we see a fire sale of our best players in January.  
  • Dalman bid over .
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  • Has it happened?
  • Dalman bid over .
    Based on a rumour you read somewhere I assume?
  • Scoham said:
    Dalman bid over .
    Based on a rumour you read somewhere I assume?




    Yep.
  • Scoham said:
    Dalman bid over .
    Based on a rumour you read somewhere I assume?




    Yep.

    Second Hand News, that's on Rumours as well
  • Scoham said:
    Dalman bid over .
    Based on a rumour you read somewhere I assume?
    About 50 pages back on this thread perhaps?
  • Blucher said:
    I think that hopes were raised by our Play-Off Final win - justifiably so, given the additional interest in the club from prospective purchasers following promotion. The difficulty, of course, is that Duchatelet decided to move the goalposts - despite LdT's pronouncement a month previously to the contrary - and the £7million former directors' loans have become a sticking point. It's also been suggested that Duchatelet wants further contingent payments in the future in the event of promotion to the Premier League and any receipt of sell-on fees following the sale of players. He really does have some brass neck.

    Supporters' anger was boiling over at the farce surrounding Lee Bowyer's contract but Duchatelet's volte-face on that issue temporarily calmed things down, given the natural relief and euphoria that Lee was staying. We are, however, now facing the prospect of going into a fiercely competitive league with an under-resourced squad and the mishandling of Aribo and Konsa has only exacerbated people's frustrations. Anger is starting to simmer and once the transfer window closes and all hope of a deal disappears, I am sure that the protests will resume in a very forceful way, both here and in Belgium.
      We said all of that this time last year.

    Has Duchatelet bought into the Bowyer half full philosophy?
    I would suggest the same transfer policy has been set for this year with maybe a bit more wriggle room considering the league we are now in.
    Not ideal, but it seems to suit Bowyer and in turn Duchatelet.
      Problem may arise if we find ourselves bottom 3 after say 5 games.
     No way Duchatelet would be able to resist using his hatchet in that situation imo.

    Then where will we be?? 


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  • No way does it "suit" Bowyer. He's waiting on a takeover.

    And Duchatelet won't sack Bowyer, that would cost money.

    Any relegation battle will be the fans fault, the 8 or 9 interested parties who couldn't agree a deal fault, the EFLs fault.
  • No way does it "suit" Bowyer. He's waiting on a takeover.

    And Duchatelet won't sack Bowyer, that would cost money.

    Any relegation battle will be the fans fault, the 8 or 9 interested parties who couldn't agree a deal fault, the EFLs fault.
     
      If you ask him he'd say exactly the kind of things he said last season about it being out of his control and he's here to work with what he's got. If he's sitting around twiddling his thumbs for a takeover he'll have a long bloody wait.

    I guarantee that if we're bottom after 10 games Bowyer will be gone.

  • And Duchatelet won't sack Bowyer, that would cost money.

    Don't kid yourself. He's on a years contract worth about 5 minutes of Melexis profits.
  • No way does it "suit" Bowyer. He's waiting on a takeover.

    And Duchatelet won't sack Bowyer, that would cost money.

    Any relegation battle will be the fans fault, the 8 or 9 interested parties who couldn't agree a deal fault, the EFLs fault.
     
      If you ask him he'd say exactly the kind of things he said last season about it being out of his control and he's here to work with what he's got. If he's sitting around twiddling his thumbs for a takeover he'll have a long bloody wait.

    I guarantee that if we're bottom after 10 games Bowyer will be gone.
    I hope we never get into that situation but he didn't fire Gobinson despite our slide and Tarby begging to go.
  • Potential owners want to borrow agains the assets has been suggested as a reason.

    Another possibility is any remaining debt to Roland being first in line should we go into administration.
  • edited July 2019
    Evidently he is still interested but his offer is reported to be ‘take it or leave it’ which we more or less knew anyway.....so nothing new really other than it now ‘appears’ to have been confirmed......though it must be said, still not by Dalman himself or anyone else who ‘officially’ represents him.
    Despite previous assurances The Helmet has de facto put the price up, either in the actual asking price (that’s not know by the way), or doing it indirectly through the back door by means of some new ‘add ons’.
    Kick backs from player sales (whether those are solely of players currently on our books or for a further unspecified period is not known), plus a further kick back if we get promoted are now on the agenda.
    On top of that, we have the perennial saga of the directors loans being thrown into the melting pot!
    Speaking for myself I don’t see the problem, as has been stressed by others, these loans are NOT payable until such time as we get promoted to The Premiership......so why does this keep popping up?
    £7,000,000 ain’t a Kings Ransom when you consider that we would get something in the region of £150,000,000 to £200,000,000 just for getting there.
    The sale of a player for £7,000,000 or so would sort that out....peanuts in reality.
    Which is a reason why I can’t understand why these loans should be an issue at point of sale other than for a prospective buyer to take on board that they are outstanding further down the line.
    For the life of me I cannot see why they would need to be paid for at anytime before the time we were promoted, so why oh why do they keep being brought up as being a problem concerning the purchase price.........I am truly baffled? 
    The biggest problem is that it's a £7m loan nobody wants to pay back because they themselves did not benefit from the loan from the ex-directors. It might be his responsibility and negligence for not understanding the debt but RD didn't borrow the money and we shouldn't assume he should have to pay it back because he's a billionaire. The Aussies and all the other possible buyers didn't borrow it either so understandably nobody wants to pay back a debt that they didn't reap the benefit from. That said, the debt does belong to RD as the current owner and it's his responsibility (at present) to pay it back.

    It's been so long now I've forgotten but who exactly got the benefit of the £7m from the ex-directors?

    Genuinely starting to think the £7m won't ever be paid back until we're back in The Premier League and trying to do that on a League One budget appears to be why we're at a stalemate.
  • Evidently he is still interested but his offer is reported to be ‘take it or leave it’ which we more or less knew anyway.....so nothing new really other than it now ‘appears’ to have been confirmed......though it must be said, still not by Dalman himself or anyone else who ‘officially’ represents him.
    Despite previous assurances The Helmet has de facto put the price up, either in the actual asking price (that’s not know by the way), or doing it indirectly through the back door by means of some new ‘add ons’.
    Kick backs from player sales (whether those are solely of players currently on our books or for a further unspecified period is not known), plus a further kick back if we get promoted are now on the agenda.
    On top of that, we have the perennial saga of the directors loans being thrown into the melting pot!
    Speaking for myself I don’t see the problem, as has been stressed by others, these loans are NOT payable until such time as we get promoted to The Premiership......so why does this keep popping up?
    £7,000,000 ain’t a Kings Ransom when you consider that we would get something in the region of £150,000,000 to £200,000,000 just for getting there.
    The sale of a player for £7,000,000 or so would sort that out....peanuts in reality.
    Which is a reason why I can’t understand why these loans should be an issue at point of sale other than for a prospective buyer to take on board that they are outstanding further down the line.
    For the life of me I cannot see why they would need to be paid for at anytime before the time we were promoted, so why oh why do they keep being brought up as being a problem concerning the purchase price.........I am truly baffled? 
    Because the new owner (s) want clean title. The reason why I can only speculate. 
  • Looking that as days pass we are slipping back into an impasse that will see no sale go through in time to offer LB any help in the transfer market if at all. Think we will need to revisit this thread next January.
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