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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    addick05 said:
    addick05 said:
    Chizz said:
    JamesSeed said:
    I don't believe that Roland has a "breaking point"............ he has enough money for it not to bother him much. His stubbornness has been evident for far too long and those thinking that he will cave in are going to be left very disappointed and frustrated IMHO.
    It's either going to take a stupid offer or a decline in our fortunes again to get him to sell up. He can then go and crawl back under his rock. 
    This

    or a second miracle of Bowyer getting us promoted to The Premier League on a League One budget.

    RD probably feels he's now fended off the peak of the protests so can afford to wait for the price he wants as mentioned by No.1
    This. Don’t for a minute believe he doesn’t care about the protests. According to GM he very much does. 

    This is why the lack of dissent and organisation from CARD this summer has surprised me. 

    He first took interest in selling the club and then officially put us on the market following the Belgium march in 2017. 

    After every major 'protest' gesture against him he's panicked and reacted. Gibbering away on TalkSport, nonsense statements on the OS, openly claiming he wants rid of the club.

    He's also admitted in private conversations and public interviews that the fans actively revolting convinced him that his CAFC project was over. 

    So I'm surprised we haven't played on this a little more over the summer to try to get his price down and push this over the line. To pre-empt some responses, I know in theory anyone can prompt a protest and CARD and the like shouldn't have to shoulder all the responsibility, but their access to the protest funds, contacts with the press and ability to mobilise hundreds/thousands of us means it's usually the most effective route.

    I'm not blaming the heroes of that movement who've done some truly great work, but I do feel we've taken our foot of the gas at the wrong time here. 

    What do you think would be the best form of protest and when do you think it should take place?

    Don't worry - if we're bottom of the league at end of October the protests will be back on again.
    This is a fair shout.

    The protests at The Valley ground to a halt when we lost 4k of season ticket holders/boycotters.  Now 4k of whoever have come back this could reignite the protests if we are floundering soon into the season.

    Having said that, I think it's proven that NOTHING the fans do make a slightest bit of difference in what this clown does, HE HAS TOO MUCH MONEY.

    Back to fan mode "long live the protest".
    Totally agree, Nothing we as fans do will affect RD. If he goes it will be when he decides.
    So the things that have happened in Belgium in the last few years have had no effect on him? I don't think so. 
    Take my hat off to those who went to Belgium and yes I dare say it pissed him of
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    addick05 said:
    addick05 said:
    addick05 said:
    Chizz said:
    JamesSeed said:
    I don't believe that Roland has a "breaking point"............ he has enough money for it not to bother him much. His stubbornness has been evident for far too long and those thinking that he will cave in are going to be left very disappointed and frustrated IMHO.
    It's either going to take a stupid offer or a decline in our fortunes again to get him to sell up. He can then go and crawl back under his rock. 
    This

    or a second miracle of Bowyer getting us promoted to The Premier League on a League One budget.

    RD probably feels he's now fended off the peak of the protests so can afford to wait for the price he wants as mentioned by No.1
    This. Don’t for a minute believe he doesn’t care about the protests. According to GM he very much does. 

    This is why the lack of dissent and organisation from CARD this summer has surprised me. 

    He first took interest in selling the club and then officially put us on the market following the Belgium march in 2017. 

    After every major 'protest' gesture against him he's panicked and reacted. Gibbering away on TalkSport, nonsense statements on the OS, openly claiming he wants rid of the club.

    He's also admitted in private conversations and public interviews that the fans actively revolting convinced him that his CAFC project was over. 

    So I'm surprised we haven't played on this a little more over the summer to try to get his price down and push this over the line. To pre-empt some responses, I know in theory anyone can prompt a protest and CARD and the like shouldn't have to shoulder all the responsibility, but their access to the protest funds, contacts with the press and ability to mobilise hundreds/thousands of us means it's usually the most effective route.

    I'm not blaming the heroes of that movement who've done some truly great work, but I do feel we've taken our foot of the gas at the wrong time here. 

    What do you think would be the best form of protest and when do you think it should take place?

    Don't worry - if we're bottom of the league at end of October the protests will be back on again.
    This is a fair shout.

    The protests at The Valley ground to a halt when we lost 4k of season ticket holders/boycotters.  Now 4k of whoever have come back this could reignite the protests if we are floundering soon into the season.

    Having said that, I think it's proven that NOTHING the fans do make a slightest bit of difference in what this clown does, HE HAS TOO MUCH MONEY.

    Back to fan mode "long live the protest".
    Totally agree, Nothing we as fans do will affect RD. If he goes it will be when he decides.
    So the things that have happened in Belgium in the last few years have had no effect on him? I don't think so. 
    Take my hat off to those who went to Belgium and yes I dare say it pissed him of
    ....but, he’s still here!
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Cafc43v3r said:
    My OPINION of where we are. 

    1) The Australian group have said this is how we intend to pay you the money, as in over a period of time, future promotion extra.  RD has said fine, if you do it like that the price is x, then increased by 7 Mill after promotion.  They haven't said they won't pay it, but obviously haven't paid it. 

    2) The British group has always been on standby.  The price is £1 and Roland owns all the property.  This would cause real problems with ex directors. 

    3) Dalman has said I will pay x, take it or leave it.  Roland has neither taken it nor left it. 

    4) The "Prague group" have spoken to RD, both agree that x is a price agreeable.  However they haven't discussed the nitty gritty yet. 

    Fun times 

    On bullet point 3, I think he's decided to leave it.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Ferryman said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    My OPINION of where we are. 

    1) The Australian group have said this is how we intend to pay you the money, as in over a period of time, future promotion extra.  RD has said fine, if you do it like that the price is x, then increased by 7 Mill after promotion.  They haven't said they won't pay it, but obviously haven't paid it. 

    2) The British group has always been on standby.  The price is £1 and Roland owns all the property.  This would cause real problems with ex directors. 

    3) Dalman has said I will pay x, take it or leave it.  Roland has neither taken it nor left it. 

    4) The "Prague group" have spoken to RD, both agree that x is a price agreeable.  However they haven't discussed the nitty gritty yet. 

    Fun times 

    On bullet point 3, I think he's decided to leave it.
    I agree he hasn't taken it, but we don't know he has left it.  We think he might have done. 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    Ferryman said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    My OPINION of where we are. 

    1) The Australian group have said this is how we intend to pay you the money, as in over a period of time, future promotion extra.  RD has said fine, if you do it like that the price is x, then increased by 7 Mill after promotion.  They haven't said they won't pay it, but obviously haven't paid it. 

    2) The British group has always been on standby.  The price is £1 and Roland owns all the property.  This would cause real problems with ex directors. 

    3) Dalman has said I will pay x, take it or leave it.  Roland has neither taken it nor left it. 

    4) The "Prague group" have spoken to RD, both agree that x is a price agreeable.  However they haven't discussed the nitty gritty yet. 

    Fun times 

    On bullet point 3, I think he's decided to leave it.
    Bullet point 4 - I thought it was the Bexley Boy group?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Solidgone said:
    Ferryman said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    My OPINION of where we are. 

    1) The Australian group have said this is how we intend to pay you the money, as in over a period of time, future promotion extra.  RD has said fine, if you do it like that the price is x, then increased by 7 Mill after promotion.  They haven't said they won't pay it, but obviously haven't paid it. 

    2) The British group has always been on standby.  The price is £1 and Roland owns all the property.  This would cause real problems with ex directors. 

    3) Dalman has said I will pay x, take it or leave it.  Roland has neither taken it nor left it. 

    4) The "Prague group" have spoken to RD, both agree that x is a price agreeable.  However they haven't discussed the nitty gritty yet. 

    Fun times 

    On bullet point 3, I think he's decided to leave it.
    Bullet point 4 - I thought it was the Bexley Boy group?
    Bexley man wasn't it
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Can @nth london addick @JamesSeed @Redhenry @DOUCHER @anyoneelseITK provide a short summary of where we are so we can compare, contrast, blast and agree with the varying possibilities.
  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,351
    Dazzler21 said:
    Can @nth london addick @JamesSeed @Redhenry @DOUCHER @anyoneelseITK provide a short summary of where we are so we can compare, contrast, blast and agree with the varying possibilities.
    Its known in the trade as a Beauty parade....thing is it's not so beautiful 
  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,790
    Dazzler21 said:
    Can @nth london addick @JamesSeed @Redhenry @DOUCHER @anyoneelseITK provide a short summary of where we are so we can compare, contrast, blast and agree with the varying possibilities.
    RD will be here start at the start of the season 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    If I knew anything, I would pass it on.
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    One page until the takeover is done.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    4 pages we will be at war
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    4 pages we will be at war
    10, surely
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    Dazzler21 said:
    Can @nth london addick @JamesSeed @Redhenry @DOUCHER @anyoneelseITK provide a short summary of where we are so we can compare, contrast, blast and agree with the varying possibilities.
    RD will be here start at the start of the season 
    And the end . 
  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,553
    edited July 2019
    Shouldn't the thread title be changed seeing as we don't know if the Dalman talks have broken down?

    Every time i read it i think it's new information!
  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,286
    Shouldn't the thread title be changed seeing we don't know if the Dalman talks have broken down?

    Every time i read it i think it's new information!

    Sale of Charlton - (Page 1904, Rolands still mucking around)

  • cafcwill said:
    Shouldn't the thread title be changed seeing we don't know if the Dalman talks have broken down?

    Every time i read it i think it's new information!

    Sale of Charlton - (Page 1904, we didn't know anything on Page 1 and we still don't now)


  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1904, it becomes compulsory to have number plates on cars, Earl Russell obtained the first one numbered A1.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    cafcwill said:
    Shouldn't the thread title be changed seeing we don't know if the Dalman talks have broken down?

    Every time i read it i think it's new information!

    Sale of Charlton - (Page 1904, Rolands still a yellow toothed senile old clueless tight fisted prick)


  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
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  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    Can you elaborate?
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    I daresay the owners before Roland fucked the club even more than he has.
  • Addicktion
    Addicktion Posts: 384
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    Is this from the Aussies side? I'll be pretty amazed if it is considering they've been conducting their DD for 2 years now
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    4 pages we will be at war
    10, surely

    Millwall have arranged it, for some reason I thought we were on page 1910
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    Maybe this explains the insane price and other things like the Aussie delay?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    Is this from the Aussies side? I'll be pretty amazed if it is considering they've been conducting their DD for 2 years now
      This. Who's on their finance committee FFS?
    Diane Abbott?
    More likely Boris - this stadium won't cost the taxpayers anything - Johnson...
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,740
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    I heard we owe the window cleaner for 2 month's worth at Sparrow's Lane. Also ominous rumblings about an unsettled Unigate bill.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    @JamesSeed is this from the Aussies' point of view, or from other bidder(s)?  Because, if after two years' worth of due diligence, costing (am I right in thinking...) over a million quid, it does seem to stretch credulity that the Aussies have now uncovered debt they had missed for that long.  

    Do you have any more information on this?  Is this really stuff that the Aussies have only just come across?  And what size "hole" does this put in the deal? 
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,104
    JamesSeed said:
    Last I heard further previously undiscovered debt was uncovered. 
    If that’s the case, the Aussie’s didn’t do their original Due Dilligence very well. That was undertaken two years ago? 
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