Enjoy the hiatus and take just a minute people, as the momentum falters and the "who knows what debate" stalls to reflect there are no enemies on here...
...RD is truly of another dimension.
Question for G: if roly read that do you think he would recognise it as Charlton's situation, or his part therein? Is it vanity and hubris that blind him or fundamental lack of intelligence? My money's on a winning combination of both.
There's more professionalism and care for the club in that one article than roly's shown in 5 years.
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
I too am waiting with bated breath. However, I am bracing myself for news that most of us will not want to hear, based on a very terse message earlier this week. I will of course report as soon as I have something.
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
I too am waiting with bated breath. However, I am bracing myself for news that most of us will not want to hear, based on a very terse message earlier this week. I will of course report as soon as I have something.
Here we go again. Club won’t be sold before season starts, that I’m sure.
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
I too am waiting with bated breath. However, I am bracing myself for news that most of us will not want to hear, based on a very terse message earlier this week. I will of course report as soon as I have something.
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
I too am waiting with bated breath. However, I am bracing myself for news that most of us will not want to hear, based on a very terse message earlier this week. I will of course report as soon as I have something.
Here we go again. Club won’t be sold before season starts, that I’m sure.
More likely that the club won't be sold ever, certainly not in RD's lifetime. As he is slowly pissing away his inheritance perhaps it's time for Roly's son to consider applying for a power of attorney, as his old man is clearly off his conkers.
Enjoy the hiatus and take just a minute people, as the momentum falters and the "who knows what debate" stalls to reflect there are no enemies on here...
...RD is truly of another dimension.
Question for G: if roly read that do you think he would recognise it as Charlton's situation, or his part therein? Is it vanity and hubris that blind him or fundamental lack of intelligence? My money's on a winning combination of both.
There's more professionalism and care for the club in that one article than roly's shown in 5 years.
Enjoy the hiatus and take just a minute people, as the momentum falters and the "who knows what debate" stalls to reflect there are no enemies on here...
...RD is truly of another dimension.
Question for G: if roly read that do you think he would recognise it as Charlton's situation, or his part therein? Is it vanity and hubris that blind him or fundamental lack of intelligence? My money's on a winning combination of both.
There's more professionalism and care for the club in that one article than roly's shown in 5 years.
Crazy thing is talking purely on the pitch we have gone circle. Roland took over a Championship club in danger of going down and that’s where we are now.
Not saying he deserves any less criticism but despite a rough few years we are in a similar position to when he took over.
But with about 10 times the debt.
Not necessarily. At some point Roland will have to write some of this off.
Crazy thing is talking purely on the pitch we have gone circle. Roland took over a Championship club in danger of going down and that’s where we are now.
Not saying he deserves any less criticism but despite a rough few years we are in a similar position to when he took over.
But with about 10 times the debt.
Not necessarily. At some point Roland will have to write some of this off.
Any rational owner would look at it in that way. Not sure that our owner is in a hurry to cut his losses and of course he doesn’t need to if he doesn’t want to.
Been reported elsewhere that Dalman may have walked away as RD has changed his mind about selling. Also that nothing on the horizon is close. Just mentioning what I've read. If what @PragueAddick says is potentially correct, then I surmise that RD is not selling anytime soon.
Was it towards the end of this week, today or tomorrow, that the European group were meeting RD or his reps? Do we know if that has/is happening? Sorry if I've got it wrong or I've missed someone else asking this.
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
I too am waiting with bated breath. However, I am bracing myself for news that most of us will not want to hear, based on a very terse message earlier this week. I will of course report as soon as I have something.
Here we go again. Club won’t be sold before season starts, that I’m sure.
I think that become obvious about 5 weeks ago mate
Been reported elsewhere that Dalman may have walked away as RD has changed his mind about selling. Also that nothing on the horizon is close. Just mentioning what I've read. If what @PragueAddick says is potentially correct, then I surmise that RD is not selling anytime soon.
Crazy thing is talking purely on the pitch we have gone circle. Roland took over a Championship club in danger of going down and that’s where we are now.
Not saying he deserves any less criticism but despite a rough few years we are in a similar position to when he took over.
But with about 10 times the debt.
Not necessarily. At some point Roland will have to write some of this off.
Any rational owner would look at it in that way. Not sure that our owner is in a hurry to cut his losses and of course he doesn’t need to if he doesn’t want to.
Latest i have heard (and this is from RD himself) is that in fact he does want to cut his losses ...into 10 equal parcels which he will then sell separately for a sum greater than the value of the collective whole. He will then take any residual debt owed by those purchasing the parcels and lend up to the value of that debt with those purchasers. Obviously the debt will be leveraged from the new owners security against the land but not the buildings.
Only things I can say right now ares that we know how quickly the clown changes what he said hours earlier, and that I am really only the messenger, and my main direct contact is apparently in South America this week, doubtless on his day job. That would not be the reason for any hold-up.
My instinct is towards pessimism, but right now it is nothing more than instinct (which is of course shaped by other news and comment from people.
Only speculating, but is it possible that he's taking a punt on Bowyer pulling off a miracle this season regardless of the fact that minimal investment has been made in the squad?
The only way he will get all of his money back is to sell if we reach the Prem (the same goes for any new owner as well of course).
He wont have decided not to sell, but he clearly believes he can reduce losses right down until he gets a buyer that reflects his valuation.. meanwhile Charlton suffers and Bowyer will be off as will good players, and ultimately he won't get that buyer because the club isn't worth what he wants. He isn't going to make profit because he won't invest like he did in the past.
There is some truth in what he says about the bonkers state of football finance, but if you don't like it get out of the kitchen, its reality and imposing his own version of reality on it isn't going to result in success - he's got lucky with Bowyer and co but the odds are stacked against us with the finances stacked up the way they are in this League.
Sorry to increase the gloom, but have heard the rumoured Chinese interest has walked away. Apparently they had been getting involved with the Aussie bid. Adds delay to any continuation of Aussie bid. [Info not from Aussies. Source pretty reliable, but not as nailed on as when from Aussies of course.]
Sorry to increase the gloom, but have heard the rumoured Chinese interest has walked away. Apparently they had been getting involved with the Aussie bid. Adds delay to any continuation of Aussie bid. [Info not from Aussies]
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Grapevine's post reframes the discussion and should earn a reference in the thread title, in my opinion; "Grapevine speaks, page 1924".
no that is right, waiting with bated breath for an update from @PragueAddick
We are not going to be sold. We need to get used to it and ask where we, as fans, go from here.
Suggestions on a postcard please.
Ewood Park, for a start
As he is slowly pissing away his inheritance perhaps it's time for Roly's son to consider applying for a power of attorney, as his old man is clearly off his conkers.
only joking Grapevine,love reading ur take on things,keep them coming
My instinct is towards pessimism, but right now it is nothing more than instinct (which is of course shaped by other news and comment from people.
I would also love to compare notes with @nth london addick.
Only speculating, but is it possible that he's taking a punt on Bowyer pulling off a miracle this season regardless of the fact that minimal investment has been made in the squad?
The only way he will get all of his money back is to sell if we reach the Prem (the same goes for any new owner as well of course).
Its like turning down an interview for a job cos you’ve got a lottery ticket for tonight.
So it would indeed be in keeping with the mind of two sheds.
There is some truth in what he says about the bonkers state of football finance, but if you don't like it get out of the kitchen, its reality and imposing his own version of reality on it isn't going to result in success - he's got lucky with Bowyer and co but the odds are stacked against us with the finances stacked up the way they are in this League.
[Info not from Aussies. Source pretty reliable, but not as nailed on as when from Aussies of course.]