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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    Get in touch with @the_pres@The_President and the Belgian 20, they know.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Yeah that was brilliant, simple but so effective and cutting. 

    However - my point was Standard Liege like protests on his doorstep might be the only way to force a sale, anything else I don’t think he cares. 
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    Copied from the minutes-:
    TR said that there will be another takeover update before the start of the season if there has been no takeover
    • Provisional date for next full meeting: Wednesday, September 25th

    So this fans forum on the takeover has to happen this week!!

    What excuse will they make for not abiding by their own statements. They must have known last week the takeover was not happening, anyone had an invite yet to a Takeover fans forum meeting.............No!! well what a surprise!!

    Perhaps our season won’t start til October..

    (have been asking the question - last week - nothing so far, I’m in Norfolk anyway this week so couldn’t attend in the flesh)
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Yeah that was brilliant, simple but so effective and cutting. 

    However - my point was Standard Liege like protests on his doorstep might be the only way to force a sale, anything else I don’t think he cares. 
    Do it then
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    So, the European deal is not moving forward. Discussions have been halted.

    That is the only verifiable fact that I have.

    As for my comment last week which seems to have wound up a certain accountant, that comment was

    Had a further message, which I had better leave until Monday to get further verified, because it is meltdown material.

    Well it has not been verified. The buyer and the intermediary have not spoken in detail since the meeting, and the intermediary is now on holiday with his wife who has recently been very ill, and they need the break. There is also a second British adviser involved who was the source of the comment that was very concerning last week but it now seems  that neither he nor the intermediary were actually in the meeting between the buyer and RD's people. Until the intermediary speaks with the buyer at length, he's not able to tell me (assuming he wants to) what exactly was the reason for the breakdown. It also occurred to me that they might on reflection not be open about the reason in case they infringe an NDA.

    But patently this is not happening before the transfer window. Apart from anything else there is no Heads of Agreement reached so they can't go to the EFL.

    Massively pissed off all round.

  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    edited July 2019
    X
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    You need a push, happyvalley? 
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1946, Charlton lose 4-1 to Derby County in the FA Cup Final after extra time. ( We'll be back ).
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Just twenty-eight more posts until we can really celebrate!
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    edited July 2019
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    I have no idea why so many people genuinely believe this, I really don’t 
    Because it’s all we’ve got mate. We either do something or just sit here and watch it burn
    I am convinced there is nothing that you, or anyone else in protest can do singularity or collectively to make him sell, escalate his route to sale or enforce / encourage him to lower his demands. 

    There are are plenty of things you can do that would generate publicity or potentially piss him off, which may make you or others feel better and that you are doing something, but again there is no evidence over the last five years here, in Belgium, Spain, Germany or Hungary that it will have any influence in leading to him shaking hands with another party and putting a signature on the papers. 

    No one wished it was the case more than me, btw. 
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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    I have no idea why so many people genuinely believe this, I really don’t 
    Truly shocked and disappointed to hear you say that D.....don’t get your drift here one little bit?
  • 1905
    1905 Posts: 2,751
    But Jim white said he was selling?  I am confused. 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    I believe he lives in a luxury block of flats!
  • willieduff
    willieduff Posts: 986
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    I believe he lives in a luxury block of flats!
    Window Box then.

  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    We should all go over to his gaff and spell "ROLAND OUT" with our faeces. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Yeah that was brilliant, simple but so effective and cutting. 

    However - my point was Standard Liege like protests on his doorstep might be the only way to force a sale, anything else I don’t think he cares. 
    The only thing it is likely to force is an arrest or two. It is not going to force a sale.
    He will sell when either his price reflects the value, he runs out of patience in losing money, or a buyer appears who is prepared to pay his price. The first is desirable, the second is possible and linked to the first, and the third is bordering on impossible.
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,198
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    I believe he lives in a luxury block of flats!
    Balcony then 😂
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,671
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    I believe he lives in a luxury block of flats!
    Window Box then.

    Job for the Elf 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    The only thing it is likely to force is an arrest or two. It is not going to force a sale.
    He will sell when either his price reflects the value, he runs out of patience in losing money, or a buyer appears who is prepared to pay his price. The first is desirable, the second is possible and linked to the first, and the third is bordering on impossible.
    Yeah you’re probably right, I’m sure the protests will annoy him, but they probably won’t have much effect on the sale itself. 

    It’s just so frustrating to sit here and do nothing while he carelessly ruins our club. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Nudge
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  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Scoham said:
    Copied from the minutes-:
    TR said that there will be another takeover update before the start of the season if there has been no takeover
    • Provisional date for next full meeting: Wednesday, September 25th

    So this fans forum on the takeover has to happen this week!!

    What excuse will they make for not abiding by their own statements. They must have known last week the takeover was not happening, anyone had an invite yet to a Takeover fans forum meeting.............No!! well what a surprise!!

    I think they mean an update posted on the website, rather than another meeting.
    Then, if that's what they mean, they have 4 days to post an update....I'll take bets there will be absolute silence on the takeover. They could of course spin the same yarn there are 3 parties interested, but we know Dalman has walked, The Aussies have lost, yet another investor and now the Europeans have stopped talks, so unless there are 3 more (fantasy) groups, I fear we are screwed and RD will be here for the season. Perhaps someone  can contact Jim White and let him know whats happened, after all he told everyone who is a Charlton supporter that we are being sold and we should be happy!!
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Well that’s that then.  See you all in January for the same bickering, false hope and general bollocks.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    I’m shocked that he hasn’t caved and sold for what the buyers fancied paying. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    Excellent, the more the merrier, though we are struggling with the broadband connection.


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    Are we there yet?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    One feature of the protests has been about an expression of the feeling of some fans.
    It is seen as futile by some, almost therapeutic by others.
    It has not been my expectation really on any protesting I have done that it would lead to him selling, it has probably been more about trying to express in some way that one fan at least does not want to roll over and have his tummy tickled by him.
    Roland blithely foisted Fraeye on our club as if he thought it wouldn't matter to us, as Meire told us, Roland is the owner he can do as he wants. So if Roland can do what he wants as the owner, we can do what we want as fans as long as we exercise lawful constraint.
    If that means some deep blue kind of thinking is needed to help our next bit of self expression to be...err...satisfying, then we need to get creative thinking caps on.
    Not because it would directly force him to sell, but as some kind of memorable message, even if it is futile in some regards.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Looking forward to the page where we can celebrate Charlton's most recent FA Cup Final win... 



  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Scoham said:
    Copied from the minutes-:
    TR said that there will be another takeover update before the start of the season if there has been no takeover
    • Provisional date for next full meeting: Wednesday, September 25th

    So this fans forum on the takeover has to happen this week!!

    What excuse will they make for not abiding by their own statements. They must have known last week the takeover was not happening, anyone had an invite yet to a Takeover fans forum meeting.............No!! well what a surprise!!

    I think they mean an update posted on the website, rather than another meeting.
    Then, if that's what they mean, they have 4 days to post an update....I'll take bets there will be absolute silence on the takeover. They could of course spin the same yarn there are 3 parties interested, but we know Dalman has walked, The Aussies have lost, yet another investor and now the Europeans have stopped talks, so unless there are 3 more (fantasy) groups, I fear we are screwed and RD will be here for the season. Perhaps someone  can contact Jim White and let him know whats happened, after all he told everyone who is a Charlton supporter that we are being sold and we should be happy!!
    Maybe the FF could request the aforementioned meeting takes place before the Blackburn match indicating their members have something of interest to share with LDT regarding the takeover.....

    .....then proceed to inform him of what IS happening as clearly set out by @Redmidland.


    His reaction would be worth watching. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    The level of delusion on this thread is some times laughable and actually some times very worrying.  Some normally sane and sensible people become almost irrational, no not almost, actually irrational.

    The protests at home shouldn't have stopped for the simple reason nothing changed, when they start again we will look like spoilt brats, because they will start again when we are bottom of the championship.  

    Roland won't sell for less than the price he wants.  In my OPINION he has agreed that price with at least one party, if not more.  If that price is more than other people will agree to what's the point of him negotiating?  If someone has agreed that price, no matter how inflated we think it is, he is entitled to either wait for them to pay it or tell him to stick it.

    @AFKABartram is right, nothing we can do now will make him reduce the price, if he thinks that there is that offer on the table.  It might make you feel better, but it won't actually achieve anything other than a rant on the official site.

    Also if you think he is spending circa ten million a year just to piss you off, I suggest you go and seek help.  You are either a narcissist or suffer from paranoia.  If he is paying millions a year just to screw with @Airman Brown, the only fan I have ever known him name, I'll happily do it for "2%" if it means the twat sells the club.

    The irony is he isn't killing the club but keeping it in a finance induced coma, giving it the bear minimum of life support to keep it breathing.

    This is the first non distressed sale of our club in the last 25 years, I would happily wait another 6 months on the condition he to sells it to someone that can actually provide the vision and finance to improve things, not a short term "fix" like the spivs. 

    There is no reason for him not to want to sell, the "network" has gone, KM has gone.  Owning Charlton Athletic Football Club has no benifit now for old Roland, it's a pure liability.   But given the choice I would rather wait than gift the club to a Ken Anderson, Stuart Day, Tony Jimenez or Bill Archer.


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    CAFCDAZ said:
    The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him. 
    @ElliotCAFC @ElliotCAFC

    Go for it, get yourselves over to Belgium and protest.
    Going alone is futile. I’m not saying it’ll work, I’m just saying that it might be better than doing nothing 
    Two is better than no one.

    There were only two people holding the liar banner and that was brilliant.

    If you and @CAFCDAZ go others will follow.

    Go for it.
    Someone get me his address I'll camp in his garden 
    I believe he lives in a luxury block of flats!
    Window Box then.

    Job for the Elf 
    Still too high high mate, sadly.
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