The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
Copied from the minutes-: TR said that there will be another takeover update before the start of the
season if there has been no takeover • Provisional date for next full meeting: Wednesday, September 25th
So this fans forum on the takeover has to happen this week!!
What excuse will they make for not abiding by their own statements. They must have known last week the takeover was not happening, anyone had an invite yet to a Takeover fans forum meeting.............No!! well what a surprise!!
Perhaps our season won’t start til October..
(have been asking the question - last week - nothing so far, I’m in Norfolk anyway this week so couldn’t attend in the flesh)
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
So, the European deal is not moving forward. Discussions have been halted.
That is the only verifiable fact that I have.
As for my comment last week which seems to have wound up a certain accountant, that comment was
Had a further message, which I had better leave until Monday to get further verified, because it is meltdown material.
Well it has not been verified. The buyer and the intermediary have not spoken in detail since the meeting, and the intermediary is now on holiday with his wife who has recently been very ill, and they need the break. There is also a second British adviser involved who was the source of the comment that was very concerning last week but it now seems that neither he nor the intermediary were actually in the meeting between the buyer and RD's people. Until the intermediary speaks with the buyer at length, he's not able to tell me (assuming he wants to) what exactly was the reason for the breakdown. It also occurred to me that they might on reflection not be open about the reason in case they infringe an NDA.
But patently this is not happening before the transfer window. Apart from anything else there is no Heads of Agreement reached so they can't go to the EFL.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
I have no idea why so many people genuinely believe this, I really don’t
Because it’s all we’ve got mate. We either do something or just sit here and watch it burn
I am convinced there is nothing that you, or anyone else in protest can do singularity or collectively to make him sell, escalate his route to sale or enforce / encourage him to lower his demands.
There are are plenty of things you can do that would generate publicity or potentially piss him off, which may make you or others feel better and that you are doing something, but again there is no evidence over the last five years here, in Belgium, Spain, Germany or Hungary that it will have any influence in leading to him shaking hands with another party and putting a signature on the papers.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
I have no idea why so many people genuinely believe this, I really don’t
Truly shocked and disappointed to hear you say that D.....don’t get your drift here one little bit?
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
Yeah that was brilliant, simple but so effective and cutting.
However - my point was Standard Liege like protests on his doorstep might be the only way to force a sale, anything else I don’t think he cares.
The only thing it is likely to force is an arrest or two. It is not going to force a sale.
He will sell when either his price reflects the value, he runs out of patience in losing money, or a buyer appears who is prepared to pay his price. The first is desirable, the second is possible and linked to the first, and the third is bordering on impossible.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
The only thing it is likely to force is an arrest or two. It is not going to force a sale.
He will sell when either his price reflects the value, he runs out of patience in losing money, or a buyer appears who is prepared to pay his price. The first is desirable, the second is possible and linked to the first, and the third is bordering on impossible.
Yeah you’re probably right, I’m sure the protests will annoy him, but they probably won’t have much effect on the sale itself.
It’s just so frustrating to sit here and do nothing while he carelessly ruins our club.
Copied from the minutes-: TR said that there will be another takeover update before the start of the
season if there has been no takeover • Provisional date for next full meeting: Wednesday, September 25th
So this fans forum on the takeover has to happen this week!!
What excuse will they make for not abiding by their own statements. They must have known last week the takeover was not happening, anyone had an invite yet to a Takeover fans forum meeting.............No!! well what a surprise!!
I think they mean an update posted on the website, rather than another meeting.
Then, if that's what they mean, they have 4 days to post an update....I'll take bets there will be absolute silence on the takeover. They could of course spin the same yarn there are 3 parties interested, but we know Dalman has walked, The Aussies have lost, yet another investor and now the Europeans have stopped talks, so unless there are 3 more (fantasy) groups, I fear we are screwed and RD will be here for the season. Perhaps someone can contact Jim White and let him know whats happened, after all he told everyone who is a Charlton supporter that we are being sold and we should be happy!!
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
One feature of the protests has been about an expression of the feeling of some fans. It is seen as futile by some, almost therapeutic by others. It has not been my expectation really on any protesting I have done that it would lead to him selling, it has probably been more about trying to express in some way that one fan at least does not want to roll over and have his tummy tickled by him. Roland blithely foisted Fraeye on our club as if he thought it wouldn't matter to us, as Meire told us, Roland is the owner he can do as he wants. So if Roland can do what he wants as the owner, we can do what we want as fans as long as we exercise lawful constraint. If that means some deep blue kind of thinking is needed to help our next bit of self expression to be...err...satisfying, then we need to get creative thinking caps on. Not because it would directly force him to sell, but as some kind of memorable message, even if it is futile in some regards.
Copied from the minutes-: TR said that there will be another takeover update before the start of the
season if there has been no takeover • Provisional date for next full meeting: Wednesday, September 25th
So this fans forum on the takeover has to happen this week!!
What excuse will they make for not abiding by their own statements. They must have known last week the takeover was not happening, anyone had an invite yet to a Takeover fans forum meeting.............No!! well what a surprise!!
I think they mean an update posted on the website, rather than another meeting.
Then, if that's what they mean, they have 4 days to post an update....I'll take bets there will be absolute silence on the takeover. They could of course spin the same yarn there are 3 parties interested, but we know Dalman has walked, The Aussies have lost, yet another investor and now the Europeans have stopped talks, so unless there are 3 more (fantasy) groups, I fear we are screwed and RD will be here for the season. Perhaps someone can contact Jim White and let him know whats happened, after all he told everyone who is a Charlton supporter that we are being sold and we should be happy!!
Maybe the FF could request the aforementioned meeting takes place before the Blackburn match indicating their members have something of interest to share with LDT regarding the takeover.....
.....then proceed to inform him of what IS happening as clearly set out by @Redmidland.
The level of delusion on this thread is some times laughable and actually some times very worrying. Some normally sane and sensible people become almost irrational, no not almost, actually irrational.
The protests at home shouldn't have stopped for the simple reason nothing changed, when they start again we will look like spoilt brats, because they will start again when we are bottom of the championship.
Roland won't sell for less than the price he wants. In my OPINION he has agreed that price with at least one party, if not more. If that price is more than other people will agree to what's the point of him negotiating? If someone has agreed that price, no matter how inflated we think it is, he is entitled to either wait for them to pay it or tell him to stick it.
@AFKABartram is right, nothing we can do now will make him reduce the price, if he thinks that there is that offer on the table. It might make you feel better, but it won't actually achieve anything other than a rant on the official site.
Also if you think he is spending circa ten million a year just to piss you off, I suggest you go and seek help. You are either a narcissist or suffer from paranoia. If he is paying millions a year just to screw with @Airman Brown, the only fan I have ever known him name, I'll happily do it for "2%" if it means the twat sells the club.
The irony is he isn't killing the club but keeping it in a finance induced coma, giving it the bear minimum of life support to keep it breathing.
This is the first non distressed sale of our club in the last 25 years, I would happily wait another 6 months on the condition he to sells it to someone that can actually provide the vision and finance to improve things, not a short term "fix" like the spivs.
There is no reason for him not to want to sell, the "network" has gone, KM has gone. Owning Charlton Athletic Football Club has no benifit now for old Roland, it's a pure liability. But given the choice I would rather wait than gift the club to a Ken Anderson, Stuart Day, Tony Jimenez or Bill Archer.
The only way I see us getting Roland to sell up is if we go back to Belgium with Standard Liege levels of protesting. It’s the only thing that gets to him.
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However - my point was Standard Liege like protests on his doorstep might be the only way to force a sale, anything else I don’t think he cares.
(have been asking the question - last week - nothing so far, I’m in Norfolk anyway this week so couldn’t attend in the flesh)
There are are plenty of things you can do that would generate publicity or potentially piss him off, which may make you or others feel better and that you are doing something, but again there is no evidence over the last five years here, in Belgium, Spain, Germany or Hungary that it will have any influence in leading to him shaking hands with another party and putting a signature on the papers.
No one wished it was the case more than me, btw.
It’s just so frustrating to sit here and do nothing while he carelessly ruins our club.
It is seen as futile by some, almost therapeutic by others.
It has not been my expectation really on any protesting I have done that it would lead to him selling, it has probably been more about trying to express in some way that one fan at least does not want to roll over and have his tummy tickled by him.
Roland blithely foisted Fraeye on our club as if he thought it wouldn't matter to us, as Meire told us, Roland is the owner he can do as he wants. So if Roland can do what he wants as the owner, we can do what we want as fans as long as we exercise lawful constraint.
If that means some deep blue kind of thinking is needed to help our next bit of self expression to be...err...satisfying, then we need to get creative thinking caps on.
Not because it would directly force him to sell, but as some kind of memorable message, even if it is futile in some regards.
.....then proceed to inform him of what IS happening as clearly set out by @Redmidland.
His reaction would be worth watching.
The protests at home shouldn't have stopped for the simple reason nothing changed, when they start again we will look like spoilt brats, because they will start again when we are bottom of the championship.
Roland won't sell for less than the price he wants. In my OPINION he has agreed that price with at least one party, if not more. If that price is more than other people will agree to what's the point of him negotiating? If someone has agreed that price, no matter how inflated we think it is, he is entitled to either wait for them to pay it or tell him to stick it.
@AFKABartram is right, nothing we can do now will make him reduce the price, if he thinks that there is that offer on the table. It might make you feel better, but it won't actually achieve anything other than a rant on the official site.
Also if you think he is spending circa ten million a year just to piss you off, I suggest you go and seek help. You are either a narcissist or suffer from paranoia. If he is paying millions a year just to screw with @Airman Brown, the only fan I have ever known him name, I'll happily do it for "2%" if it means the twat sells the club.
The irony is he isn't killing the club but keeping it in a finance induced coma, giving it the bear minimum of life support to keep it breathing.
This is the first non distressed sale of our club in the last 25 years, I would happily wait another 6 months on the condition he to sells it to someone that can actually provide the vision and finance to improve things, not a short term "fix" like the spivs.
There is no reason for him not to want to sell, the "network" has gone, KM has gone. Owning Charlton Athletic Football Club has no benifit now for old Roland, it's a pure liability. But given the choice I would rather wait than gift the club to a Ken Anderson, Stuart Day, Tony Jimenez or Bill Archer.