The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Any owner of a L1 club with aspirations of promotion will loose money, RD lost so much through poor decisions made by people that RD employed.
His money
His mismanagement
Our downfall5 -
u missed the biggest reason RD lost money:
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The biggest reason for his failure was imho Roland’s lack of genuine interest.Goonerhater said:u missed the biggest reason RD lost money:
His ego
I’m convinced if he had applied himself to making a success of his ownership things would have been different. Basically he didn’t care enough to make it work.
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Goonerhater said:
u missed the biggest reason RD lost money:
His egohe’s genuinely a cunt!19 -
Not sure I agree, RD has shown no success within any of his football clubs to make me think he would be good if he applied himself.ShootersHillGuru said:
The biggest reason for his failure was imho Roland’s lack of genuine interest.Goonerhater said:u missed the biggest reason RD lost money:
His ego
I’m convinced if he had applied himself to making a success of his ownership things would have been different. Basically he didn’t care enough to make it work.3 -
He only cared about trying out his ideas such as using the network players and scouts, promoting more academy players and improving the match day experience.ShootersHillGuru said:
The biggest reason for his failure was imho Roland’s lack of genuine interest.Goonerhater said:u missed the biggest reason RD lost money:
His ego
I’m convinced if he had applied himself to making a success of his ownership things would have been different. Basically he didn’t care enough to make it work.
Winning was never considered important enough and he badly underestimated how strong and competitive English football was/is compared to Belgian football.
He never understood anything around stability or why you can't just throw youngsters into the team and expect them to do well.16 -
Spot on summary, ScohamScoham said:
He only cared about trying out his ideas such as using the network players and scouts, promoting more academy players and improving the match day experience.ShootersHillGuru said:
The biggest reason for his failure was imho Roland’s lack of genuine interest.Goonerhater said:u missed the biggest reason RD lost money:
His ego
I’m convinced if he had applied himself to making a success of his ownership things would have been different. Basically he didn’t care enough to make it work.
Winning was never considered important enough and he badly underestimated how strong and competitive English football was/is compared to Belgian football.
He never understood anything around stability or why you can't just throw youngsters into the team and expect them to do well.1 -
He assumed the English football league was like the Belgian and other leagues with only a small number of bigger clubs.
The reality is as a whole league it’s probably the most competitive, and thus requires a lot more investment just to standstill in the Championship let alone Prem, that or very skilled enlightened leadership, neither of which he was able to provide.
His experiment failed when FFP was relaxed - Meire admitted that he was trying to use the Network to sidestep the investment caps. It meant his creative accounting between clubs had no benefit.
Other value from the Network also failed when it became clear his statistical based approach failed to take into account performance transferability to the more physically demanding English league.
He also probably underestimated the competition for academy players which is very intense in England.
Overall he just didn’t do his homework on so many number levels.
His reign and indeed Meires was in so many ways ad hoc, spur of the moment or under researched/based on an idea rather than experience. They also failed to listen to those who did have that experience, due to their sublime arrogance.30 -
Lower West today. Pretty sure the potential new owners have just walked into the pitch with Bob Bolder. Have photos and will post later.4
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Dont think so.flyingkiwiDK said:Lower West today. Pretty sure the potential new owners have just walked into the pitch with Bob Bolder. Have photos and will post later.
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Why don’t you think he’s in the Lower West ?Valley27000 said:
Dont think so.flyingkiwiDK said:Lower West today. Pretty sure the potential new owners have just walked into the pitch with Bob Bolder. Have photos and will post later.
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Don't think new owners are there today.0
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Bob Bolder saving the club ;-)0
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Bob Bolder has no money to buy the club.5
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The spat with Jordan & employment of Dowie was the start of the decline. Murray has given a lot but IMO lets his personal animosities get in the way. That may sometimes obscure what is best for the long term overall health of the club.DOUCHER said:
added to the fact he has lost £18m quid of his own money (RM that is, not Varney - , i 'm not aware that he lost anything), i think its fair to say he's put a fair bit in to try and help the club - in both time and moneycarly burn said:
Correct. The financial implications for staying in the prem for that season were HUGE and Murray knew it.catfordmorry said:
The remainder of his contract, which I seem to remember was one more season.Welly said:Murray was he not the man who made the mistake of not keeping Curbs on for the remainder of the season to help choose a new manager who would understand our Charlton instead of the no brainier he chose?.
But in essence you may be correct.
He, and I suspect Varney gambled and lost..badly.
Murray has been trying to right that wrong for the last ten years!!
I firmly believe that's why we can't get shot of him.5 -
its always easy in hindsight - particularly easy sitting on an internet forum with f all to lose - we aren't the first and won't b the last to have a post premiership disaster - if there were any rich charlton fans out there to bale us out i'm sure they would have stepped forward by now - there aren't any, hence why we have to rely on those good enough to pump their own money in or hope for an investor to turn up who happens to tick all the right boxes - we aren't spurs, arsenal or man u who have a queue of mega rich people waiting to take over but lets hope the next lot are good - other than say the big 7 or 8 clubs in this country, we could swop places with any of the others in the champ or prem, if we get it right. Not all clubs can say that and the fact we are in london is a massive positive.3
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Have they left yet ??flyingkiwiDK said:Lower West today. Pretty sure the potential new owners have just walked into the pitch with Bob Bolder. Have photos and will post later.
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On second thoughts I presume they were just the match sponsors as they had a photo taken on the pitch before kick off.carly burn said:
Have they left yet ??flyingkiwiDK said:Lower West today. Pretty sure the potential new owners have just walked into the pitch with Bob Bolder. Have photos and will post later.
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Spot on concise analysis & summary from @Scoham & @razil. Really hoping that the Duchatelet chapter in Charlton’s history can be closed very soon.razil said:He assumed the English football league was like the Belgian and other leagues with only a small number of bigger clubs.
The reality is as a whole league it’s probably the most competitive, and thus requires a lot more investment just to standstill in the Championship let alone Prem, that or very skilled enlightened leadership, neither of which he was able to provide.
His experiment failed when FFP was relaxed - Meire admitted that he was trying to use the Network to sidestep the investment caps. It meant his creative accounting between clubs had no benefit.
Other value from the Network also failed when it became clear his statistical based approach failed to take into account performance transferability to the more physically demanding English league.
He also probably underestimated the competition for academy players which is very intense in England.
Overall he just didn’t do his homework on so many number levels.
His reign and indeed Meires was in so many ways ad hoc, spur of the moment or under researched/based on an idea rather than experience. They also failed to listen to those who did have that experience, due to their sublime arrogance.1 -
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Heard today that RD said to KR that the takeover might be in "three days, three weeks or three months."4
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Anything coming out of today’s game?0
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I heard something similarHenry Irving said:Heard today that RD said to KR that the takeover might be in "three days, three weeks or three months."
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I took a couple of photos of some suited gents on the pitch pre kickoff as I thought they might have been representatives of one of the interested parties but after further consideration decided that they were just the match sponsors.J BLOCK said:Anything coming out of today’s game?
I can post the photos though if you like?1 -
Yeah do itflyingkiwiDK said:
I took a couple of photos of some suited gents on the pitch pre kickoff as I thought they might have been representatives of one of the interested parties but after further consideration decided that they were just the match sponsors.J BLOCK said:Anything coming out of today’s game?
I can post the photos though if you like?0 -
At least it's pretty conclusive there will be a sale! 3 days sounds perfect to me..Henry Irving said:Heard today that RD said to KR that the takeover might be in "three days, three weeks or three months."
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Duchatelet bought the club quickly, let's hope he sells it just as quick.5
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Listening to bbc London on way home, asking for cafc fans to call in about the takeover " which we understand could be in the next few days"29
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Hopefully they have some concrete information and not reading through the linesBigfatpete said:Listening to bbc London on way home, asking for cafc fans to call in about the takeover " which we understand could be in the next few days"
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