The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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If he's really not involved at all, why would he bother responding to fans on an internet forum, as on this occasion, that's really all it is!SoundAsa£ said:
Which is one of the main reasons why he would wish to distance himself from the rumours if not true...........one would have thought.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Or perhaps he's focused on his actual job, working with one of our rivals.SoundAsa£ said:If Varney “isn’t” involved somehow or another with a takeover bid, then surely he would have come out and said so long ago.
My bet is that he is at the very least involved in some way with one of the interested parties, otherwise he would have made an effort to deny the rumours.
(I don't begrudge him for one second for working for another club, btw)
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To save people the effort, he's a real estate fund manager who ended up in prison in Dubai on fraud charges. You'd hope he wouldn't pass any league ownership tests, but you never know with the EFL.dickplumb said:From a Leeds United fan on Not606.
A word of caution.
I have heard from a source who in the past has proved to be itk about such things that one of the interested groups comes from Bahrain. Before you all get excited it is suggested a bloke called Salem Patel may be involved. I can’t say this is more than rumour but if true you guys need to know what he is.
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Not quite. Patel didn't go to prison in Dubai, it was David Haigh, who was Patel's counterpart in GFH (the firm that bought Leeds then sold it to Cellino). He was acquitted of all charges and released 22 months later however. With how they handled the Leeds issue, I'd be very surprised if the Football League sanction them buying another club.randy andy said:
To save people the effort, he's a real estate fund manager who ended up in prison in Dubai on fraud charges. You'd hope he wouldn't pass any league ownership tests, but you never know with the EFL.dickplumb said:From a Leeds United fan on Not606.
A word of caution.
I have heard from a source who in the past has proved to be itk about such things that one of the interested groups comes from Bahrain. Before you all get excited it is suggested a bloke called Salem Patel may be involved. I can’t say this is more than rumour but if true you guys need to know what he is.
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You do mean the Football League who accepted the ownership details filed by Jimenez and Slater when the former couldn’t subsequently prove to a court that he’d ever owned any of the club?WestCountryAddick said:
Not quite. Patel didn't go to prison in Dubai, it was David Haigh, who was Patel's counterpart in GFH (the firm that bought Leeds then sold it to Cellino). He was acquitted of all charges and released 22 months later however. With how they handled the Leeds issue, I'd be very surprised if the Football League sanction them buying another club.randy andy said:
To save people the effort, he's a real estate fund manager who ended up in prison in Dubai on fraud charges. You'd hope he wouldn't pass any league ownership tests, but you never know with the EFL.dickplumb said:From a Leeds United fan on Not606.
A word of caution.
I have heard from a source who in the past has proved to be itk about such things that one of the interested groups comes from Bahrain. Before you all get excited it is suggested a bloke called Salem Patel may be involved. I can’t say this is more than rumour but if true you guys need to know what he is.
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Is Patel also still a director at Leeds? is that allowed?0
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EFL couldn’t give a shit, they have a convicted rapist in charge at Blackpool. Don’t for one minute think they wouldn’t sanction a deal for this chap, because they would11
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Oyston needs kneecapping really. However in their eyes he's been to prison and served his time, so why should they stop him pumping money into the EFL?J BLOCK said:EFL couldn’t give a shit, they have a convicted rapist in charge at Blackpool. Don’t for one minute the wouldn’t sanction a deal for this chap, because they would
I know morally it feels wrong.
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I thought Varney was only fronting for a buyer as he had brokered deals before?
I also thought he had made it clear that he would have no involvement with CAFC if it went through.
His knowledge of all things Charlton may mean that he is employed once again, and one would be happy if this is the case as he has Charlton best interests at heart, but I don't think it will be a welcome homecoming that some may think.1 -
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A Ritual To Read To Each Other
If you don’t know the kind of person I am
And I don’t know the kind of person you are
A pattern that others made may prevail in the world
And following the wrong god home may miss our star.
For there is many a small betrayal in the mind
A shrug that lets the fragile sequence break
Sending with shouts the horrible errors of childhood
Storming out to play through the broken dyke.
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Or a breaking line may discourage them back to sleep;
The signals we give-yes or no, or maybe-
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"GFH Capital has structured investments exceeding USD 8bn in over 40 companies across 25 countries.[1]"
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Not sure I'm ready to believe something a Leeds fan with no proven track record or source has posted on what I thought was a dead forum.
That said, not sure why he'd have any motivation to make it up.5 -
I believe PV's involvement is as a broker/introducer - not an investor and with no view to getting involved personally. He (alongside others - one of whom is familiar) is believed to be the other party I alluded to earlier in the week alongside the Aussies. This third interested party is not something I was aware of prior to last weekend.Redrobo said:I thought Varney was only fronting for a buyer as he had brokered deals before?
I also thought he had made it clear that he would have no involvement with CAFC if it went through.
His knowledge of all things Charlton may mean that he is employed once again, and one would be happy if this is the case as he has Charlton best interests at heart, but I don't think it will be a welcome homecoming that some may think.
I can't say anything with any certainty though because there is so much smoke an mirrors at the moment.
All told it seems this is another season in flux before yet another summer rebuild4 -
You got me thereAirman Brown said:
You do mean the Football League who accepted the ownership details filed by Jimenez and Slater when the former couldn’t subsequently prove to a court that he’d ever owned any of the club?WestCountryAddick said:
Not quite. Patel didn't go to prison in Dubai, it was David Haigh, who was Patel's counterpart in GFH (the firm that bought Leeds then sold it to Cellino). He was acquitted of all charges and released 22 months later however. With how they handled the Leeds issue, I'd be very surprised if the Football League sanction them buying another club.randy andy said:
To save people the effort, he's a real estate fund manager who ended up in prison in Dubai on fraud charges. You'd hope he wouldn't pass any league ownership tests, but you never know with the EFL.dickplumb said:From a Leeds United fan on Not606.
A word of caution.
I have heard from a source who in the past has proved to be itk about such things that one of the interested groups comes from Bahrain. Before you all get excited it is suggested a bloke called Salem Patel may be involved. I can’t say this is more than rumour but if true you guys need to know what he is.
Google is your friend.
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The Belgium 20 said on Twitter that one of the 3 bidders could be worse than Roland, was this who they were referring to?0
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I'm beginning to think the B20 lot (the more vocal ones) know less than either @Redhenry or @Airman Brown on here about Roland's intentions for the clubs sale and who the interested parties are...
I'd suggest questioning them first. I personally don't know if there's many worse than Roland.4 -
Said it in a previous thread, no offence to the great work they’ve done but no one can’t accurately say that. They don’t have the best track record when it comes to being ITK either.DessieValley said:The Belgium 20 said on Twitter that one of the 3 bidders could be worse than Roland, was this who they were referring to?
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The more I read this thread the more I wonder who the hell (other than a fan) would think buying Charlton is a good idea? It would be a massive gamble at best. Unless you reach the Premier League, isn't it just money down the drain?
The only way to break even running a club like Charlton would be to effectively give up any dreams of top flight football. And even then you'd struggle from what I've read here.
So what would your motivation be, particularly as a foreign buyer? You'd have to have the funds to finance a shot at double promotion, without being too concerned if it didn't happen. How many people like that are there?
Well I suppose as a takeover seems imminent someone must have a plan. Let's just hope it works out in our favour.5 -
We do not want to be going anywhere near GFH or Salem Patel.
Very worrying reading that.3 -
Would be good to hear why exactly you say that.Leeds_Addick said:We do not want to be going anywhere near GFH or Salem Patel.
Very worrying reading that.
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@JamesSeed Shhh!JamesSeed said:The more I read this thread the more I wonder who the hell (other than a fan) would think buying Charlton is a good idea? It would be a massive gamble at best. Unless you reach the Premier League, isn't it just money down the drain?
The only way to break even running a club like Charlton would be to effectively give up any dreams of top flight football. And even then you'd struggle from what I've read here.
So what would your motivation be, particularly as a foreign buyer? You'd have to have the funds to finance a shot at double promotion, without being too concerned if it didn't happen. How many people like that are there?
Well I suppose as a takeover seems imminent someone must have a plan. Let's just hope it works out in our favour.
Nothing... You saw and heard nothing here.11 -
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Not606 is far from a dead forum. Just look at the numbers that post on there from all Clubs. I find your comments ignorant and Ill informed. You don't know who the Leeds fan is,or his contact.Callumcafc said:Not sure I'm ready to believe something a Leeds fan with no proven track record or source has posted on what I thought was a dead forum.
That said, not sure why he'd have any motivation to make it up.
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These documents are a good place to start:ShootersHillGuru said:
Would be good to hear why exactly you say that.Leeds_Addick said:We do not want to be going anywhere near GFH or Salem Patel.
Very worrying reading that.
http://2900miles.com/loose-lips-sink-ships-gulf-finance-house-documents-leaked-ongoing/
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do you know who he is and who his contact is?dickplumb said:
Not606 is far from a dead forum. Just look at the numbers that post on there from all Clubs. I find your comments ignorant and Ill informed. You don't know who the Leeds fan is,or his contact.Callumcafc said:Not sure I'm ready to believe something a Leeds fan with no proven track record or source has posted on what I thought was a dead forum.
That said, not sure why he'd have any motivation to make it up.3 -
Duchatelet has stated that Charlton only take up 1.5% of his time but what a nightmare that 1.5% must be! His pipe dream of running a self funding coterie of football clubs has long gone down the swanny. He aspires to cover his loses at Charlton by selling for £44m but has a zero chance of getting that and loses probably about £750k per month to add to his financial problems. Robinson nags at him for transfer fee money; he loses his beloved Katrian as CEO, plus a financial director which is not good news. Meanwhile his club suitors sit back and wait patiently for him to bite on their 'measly' £20m offer which would give him a £30m 'haircut.' And just to add salt to the wound the Belgium 20 conspire to make him a mockery on his own Belgium turf. Happy days Roland!27
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Spooky! Just booking tickets for Bad Manners and they're being supported by Max Splodgeness!!Goonerhater said:i saw Varney and The Kuwaities once they supported Splodgeness at The Harp Club New Cross about 1987 !
Nothing to do with the takeover, so I feel pretty safe posting it anyway!!!
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that is spooky as max splodgeness cropped up in a pub quiz i attended last night1
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I didn’t write that. My account must’ve been hacked.Dazzler21 said:
@JamesSeed Shhh!JamesSeed said:The more I read this thread the more I wonder who the hell (other than a fan) would think buying Charlton is a good idea? It would be a massive gamble at best. Unless you reach the Premier League, isn't it just money down the drain?
The only way to break even running a club like Charlton would be to effectively give up any dreams of top flight football. And even then you'd struggle from what I've read here.
So what would your motivation be, particularly as a foreign buyer? You'd have to have the funds to finance a shot at double promotion, without being too concerned if it didn't happen. How many people like that are there?
Well I suppose as a takeover seems imminent someone must have a plan. Let's just hope it works out in our favour.
Nothing... You saw and heard nothing here.5 -
I can’t believe why RolandOut hasn’t arranged a meeting with the fans to discuss who should he sell the club to? It’s obvious that we collectively know more than him about business and the criteria for running an effective and efficient football club. This just proves he doesn’t trust us and is a bit of a big head. What I say is that don’t think he can run back to us with “I got it wrong...sorry...if I only listened to you” malarkey. I will just say “RolandOut...look at my hand!”.4
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when the takeover does actually happen ,lets face it its going to be an anti climax ..,have enjoyed this thread but the journey is probably going to be more interesting than the arrival like most things in life5
