I fully understand why NLA and others are saying that there won't be progress in this tedious takeover saga until we know what division we'll be playing in next year.
But what seems strange to me is that RD hasn't moved to sack Robinson. Surely it would be in his best interests to try a new manager in a last-ditch push for the Championship? It's blatantly obvious that we're going nowhere with Robinson in charge.
Roland is flying by the seat of his pants, as usual
Looked for an update on the takeover on cafc.co.uk, thinking there must be something official after last night’s Robinson rant. They haven’t bothered of course. There’s nothing but media watch sections on which the OS says: “In the News Shopper, Karl Robinson has provided a takeover update.” So last night’s Robinson interview becomes the club update.
WIOTOS? It is. We are officially are a shambolic basket-case club that’s sending people’s careers ‘down the pan’.
I remember watching the post-Burnley protest and being so saddened at what our great club had been reduced to. Surely it cant get worse? Of course it did because at Charlton, failure is policy. It seeps from every part of the club, from the ticket office to travel, from under-pitch heating to the performance on it, from the mouth of Robinson to the silence of Duchatalet. Everything is contaminated.
Like so many others i’ve read this thread, - the poetry, the pot noodles and the infighting, everything - because somewhere hidden within it was the tender shard of a new dream.
Right now we can’t even have that. We are a club with a proud past and no future.
I fully understand why NLA and others are saying that there won't be progress in this tedious takeover saga until we know what division we'll be playing in next year.
But what seems strange to me is that RD hasn't moved to sack Robinson. Surely it would be in his best interests to try a new manager in a last-ditch push for the Championship? It's blatantly obvious that we're going nowhere with Robinson in charge.
Pray tell me what manager in his right mind would want to take a job under Duchelet?
I fully understand why NLA and others are saying that there won't be progress in this tedious takeover saga until we know what division we'll be playing in next year.
But what seems strange to me is that RD hasn't moved to sack Robinson. Surely it would be in his best interests to try a new manager in a last-ditch push for the Championship? It's blatantly obvious that we're going nowhere with Robinson in charge.
Pray tell me what manager in his right mind would want to take a job under Duchelet?
Riga (twice), Peters, Luzon, Fraeye. Slade, Robinson....the fact of the matter is - it’s an easy pay off.....well apart from Poor old Karl, who is trying his best to get sacked, but Uncle Roly isn’t having it. Don’t forget Katrien had 20 applicants at one point.....she might have made that bit up... she was known for being economical with the truth.
I fully understand why NLA and others are saying that there won't be progress in this tedious takeover saga until we know what division we'll be playing in next year.
But what seems strange to me is that RD hasn't moved to sack Robinson. Surely it would be in his best interests to try a new manager in a last-ditch push for the Championship? It's blatantly obvious that we're going nowhere with Robinson in charge.
Pray tell me what manager in his right mind would want to take a job under Duchelet?
Riga (twice), Peters, Luzon, Fraeye. Slade, Robinson....the fact of the matter is - it’s an easy pay off.....well apart from Poor old Karl, who is trying his best to get sacked, but Uncle Roly isn’t having it. Don’t forget Katrien had 20 applicants at one point.....she might have made that bit up... she was known for being economical with the truth.
It was only 19 as she interviewed herself. She was the best candidate in her eyes until Uncle Roland hired Luzon
Looked for an update on the takeover on cafc.co.uk, thinking there must be something official after last night’s Robinson rant. They haven’t bothered of course. There’s nothing but media watch sections on which the OS says: “In the News Shopper, Karl Robinson has provided a takeover update.” So last night’s Robinson interview becomes the club update.
WIOTOS? It is. We are officially are a shambolic basket-case club that’s sending people’s careers ‘down the pan’.
I remember watching the post-Burnley protest and being so saddened at what our great club had been reduced to. Surely it cant get worse? Of course it did because at Charlton, failure is policy. It seeps from every part of the club, from the ticket office to travel, from under-pitch heating to the performance on it, from the mouth of Robinson to the silence of Duchatalet. Everything is contaminated.
Like so many others i’ve read this thread, - the poetry, the pot noodles and the infighting, everything - because somewhere hidden within it was the tender shard of a new dream.
Right now we can’t even have that. We are a club with a proud past and no future.
I fully understand why NLA and others are saying that there won't be progress in this tedious takeover saga until we know what division we'll be playing in next year.
But what seems strange to me is that RD hasn't moved to sack Robinson. Surely it would be in his best interests to try a new manager in a last-ditch push for the Championship? It's blatantly obvious that we're going nowhere with Robinson in charge.
Pray tell me what manager in his right mind would want to take a job under Duchelet?
Riga?
Look, I'm not advocating it, just expressing surprise that he hasn't done it!
I fully understand why NLA and others are saying that there won't be progress in this tedious takeover saga until we know what division we'll be playing in next year.
But what seems strange to me is that RD hasn't moved to sack Robinson. Surely it would be in his best interests to try a new manager in a last-ditch push for the Championship? It's blatantly obvious that we're going nowhere with Robinson in charge.
Pray tell me what manager in his right mind would want to take a job under Duchelet?
Riga?
Look, I'm not advocating it, just expressing surprise that he hasn't done it!
Duchatelet wants to sell and couldn’t give two fucks about us. He hasn’t the football brains to see that shelving Robinson for a last throw of the dice at promotion might get him more money. Sacking Robinson would cost RD a lot of money. Money he doesn’t want to spend. If he’s still owner close season we’re well screwed. He’ll not commit any realistic budget for the team. That’s why I still think he’ll be gone May latest.
Roly really doesn't give a toss about us, especially after all the protests both home and abroad, why should he? Surely no-one believes he is going to do us (the fans that is) any favours... he isn't going to change into the Good Fairy overnight. I daresay he spends a nanosecond a day thinking about Charlton. He is leaving it up to the lawyers and let's be fair, the longer they can drag it out the more money they (and probably he) can earn so why should he be in a hurry to sell the club? If he was that desperate about saving dosh he would have signed on the dotted line weeks' ago. The way things stand at the moment, if I was a prospective buyer, what's the incentive to complete the deal before the close of the season...or at least until the end of April? Every day just more and more depressing, endless suffering both on and off the pitch.
Blimey, if you change your predictions from “it’s not happening” to “it’ll happen as soon as the division we’re in next season is clear” to “anytime in the next two years” then I concede with pretty much all bases now covered you must be really really ITK and really really cool
I am now aware of who is favourite to be the new owner, and I cannot wait for it to happen. I will now continue to refuse any more of my money to the Belgian idiot, and I would support some return to making our anger obvious to him. Good days should follow, but with him in control who knows where his greed might take us. Making money is something he excels at, running a football club he will never understand, I feel privileged not to have to know him !
So Robinson confirmed what I said last week. The players have basically stopped playing, because they are concerned about their futures.
“There’s been too many things hanging over the club for too long a time. So when something very small goes against you it sparks a negative mentality. You’ve got players in there whose contracts are up in the summer not knowing what’s going on, who’s going to be in charge. These are answers that I can’t give to players or their agents with six weeks to go in the season.
“This is a reality check. If I’ve got to get in trouble for saying it I don’t really care. It’s the truth.
“I’d love to build something properly but how can you build something when you don’t know what corner you’re turning. We’ve created quite a good mentality around the place but we need something to take us onto the next level now. Everybody is just waiting. How long can you keep waiting? People’s careers are going down the pan. It’s as simple as that.”
Just read this & I'm feeling murderous.....
It's YOUR job , Karl, to make sure your players do their jobs - forget about next week, or next season and concentrate on the job in hand ....WINNING GAMES, EARNING THEIR MONEY and GIVING THEIR ALL ! They're professional footballers, for feck's sake and this kind of situation goes with the territory ! How do you think the players reacted when they heard the announcement they would play their future home matches at Selhurst Park ? How do you think Lenny Lawrence dealt with their concerns etc ? You don't have a clue. And as far as I'm concerned, you soon won't have a job.
" Careers are going down the pan " ? More like YOUR career , pal. This kind of pathetic talk would never have entered the heads of genuine, honest managers like Curbs, SCP and yes,Parky. All the bleating & lame excuses in the world will do is increase the distance between you and the fans ....and maybe has already built a gulf between you and your players. Is that part of your problem ?
I'm afraid that's it for me. You've lost my support. And there's no going back.
Robinson is a buck stops with me but..... merchant. He may have some points in what he says, but he is really incapable of genuinely taking the blame. He sort of takes it then mitigates it in his next sentence. It is possibly why he is a bang average League One manager - if you can't identify your failings how do you improve? Having said that, it is a big handicap having Roland for an owner - that is why I hate the guy so much! He is destroying our club.
I had a glimmer of hope that Robinson had enough about him to overcome this handicap but it has become clear he does not. I do not dislike the guy and blame Duchatelet for our plight, but Robinson has shown he is definitely not the answer going forwards.
Robinson is a buck stops with me but..... merchant. He may have some points in what he says, but he is really incapable of genuinely taking the blame. He sort of takes it then mitigates it in his next sentence. It is possibly why he is a bang average League One manager - if you can't identify your failings how do you improve? Having said that, it is a big handicap having Roland for an owner - that is why I hate the guy so much! He is destroying our club.
I had a glimmer of hope that Robinson had enough about him to overcome this handicap but it has become clear he does not. I do not dislike the guy and blame Duchatelet for our plight, but Robinson has shown he is definitely not the answer going forwards.
He takes the blame and then spends 17 minutes explaining why its not really his fault at all but lays the blame off everywhere else - pathetic. The man is a complete fraud and doesn't have the intelligence to realise how transparent it all is.
Robinson is a buck stops with me but..... merchant. He may have some points in what he says, but he is really incapable of genuinely taking the blame. He sort of takes it then mitigates it in his next sentence. It is possibly why he is a bang average League One manager - if you can't identify your failings how do you improve? Having said that, it is a big handicap having Roland for an owner - that is why I hate the guy so much! He is destroying our club.
I had a glimmer of hope that Robinson had enough about him to overcome this handicap but it has become clear he does not. I do not dislike the guy and blame Duchatelet for our plight, but Robinson has shown he is definitely not the answer going forwards.
I am now aware of who is favourite to be the new owner, and I cannot wait for it to happen. I will now continue to refuse any more of my money to the Belgian idiot, and I would support some return to making our anger obvious to him. Good days should follow, but with him in control who knows where his greed might take us. Making money is something he excels at, running a football club he will never understand, I feel privileged not to have to know him !
So Robinson confirmed what I said last week. The players have basically stopped playing, because they are concerned about their futures.
“There’s been too many things hanging over the club for too long a time. So when something very small goes against you it sparks a negative mentality. You’ve got players in there whose contracts are up in the summer not knowing what’s going on, who’s going to be in charge. These are answers that I can’t give to players or their agents with six weeks to go in the season.
“This is a reality check. If I’ve got to get in trouble for saying it I don’t really care. It’s the truth.
“I’d love to build something properly but how can you build something when you don’t know what corner you’re turning. We’ve created quite a good mentality around the place but we need something to take us onto the next level now. Everybody is just waiting. How long can you keep waiting? People’s careers are going down the pan. It’s as simple as that.”
Just read this & I'm feeling murderous.....
It's YOUR job , Karl, to make sure your players do their jobs - forget about next week, or next season and concentrate on the job in hand ....WINNING GAMES, EARNING THEIR MONEY and GIVING THEIR ALL ! They're professional footballers, for feck's sake and this kind of situation goes with the territory ! How do you think the players reacted when they heard the announcement they would play their future home matches at Selhurst Park ? How do you think Lenny Lawrence dealt with their concerns etc ? You don't have a clue. And as far as I'm concerned, you soon won't have a job.
" Careers are going down the pan " ? More like YOUR career , pal. This kind of pathetic talk would never have entered the heads of genuine, honest managers like Curbs, SCP and yes,Parky. All the bleating & lame excuses in the world will do is increase the distance between you and the fans ....and maybe has already built a gulf between you and your players. Is that part of your problem ?
I'm afraid that's it for me. You've lost my support. And there's no going back.
One bleat too far....BAAAAAAA.
Perfect post. Of course it's Robinson's job to get the players motivated for every game, to forget what is happening off the pitch and out of their control, just play well and win on it! All he does is bleat on to anyone who will listen about how hard they have it, and it's not my fault guv, no wonder the players have turned into the pathetic spineless bunch they sadly are today. If you are not up to it, then get the hell out of our club!!!
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WIOTOS? It is. We are officially are a shambolic basket-case club that’s sending people’s careers ‘down the pan’.
I remember watching the post-Burnley protest and being so saddened at what our great club had been reduced to. Surely it cant get worse? Of course it did because at Charlton, failure is policy. It seeps from every part of the club, from the ticket office to travel, from under-pitch heating to the performance on it, from the mouth of Robinson to the silence of Duchatalet. Everything is contaminated.
Like so many others i’ve read this thread, - the poetry, the pot noodles and the infighting, everything - because somewhere hidden within it was the tender shard of a new dream.
Right now we can’t even have that. We are a club with a proud past and no future.
I wish I had a takeover rumour, I really do.
Look, I'm not advocating it, just expressing surprise that he hasn't done it!
I daresay he spends a nanosecond a day thinking about Charlton. He is leaving it up to the lawyers and let's be fair, the longer they can drag it out the more money they (and probably he) can earn so why should he be in a hurry to sell the club?
If he was that desperate about saving dosh he would have signed on the dotted line weeks' ago. The way things stand at the moment, if I was a prospective buyer, what's the incentive to complete the deal before the close of the season...or at least until the end of April?
Every day just more and more depressing, endless suffering both on and off the pitch.
I actually think Roland floated that idea as a joke and Katrien flipped about it.
Good days should follow, but with him in control who knows where his greed might take us. Making money is something he excels at, running a football club he will never understand, I feel privileged not to have to know him !
It's YOUR job , Karl, to make sure your players do their jobs - forget about next week, or next season and concentrate on the job in hand ....WINNING GAMES, EARNING THEIR MONEY and GIVING THEIR ALL ! They're professional footballers, for feck's sake and this kind of situation goes with the territory ! How do you think the players reacted when they heard the announcement they would play their future home matches at Selhurst Park ? How do you think Lenny Lawrence dealt with their concerns etc ? You don't have a clue. And as far as I'm concerned, you soon won't have a job.
" Careers are going down the pan " ? More like YOUR career , pal. This kind of pathetic talk would never have entered the heads of genuine, honest managers like Curbs, SCP and yes,Parky. All the bleating & lame excuses in the world will do is increase the distance between you and the fans ....and maybe has already built a gulf between you and your players. Is that part of your problem ?
I'm afraid that's it for me. You've lost my support. And there's no going back.
One bleat too far....BAAAAAAA.
I had a glimmer of hope that Robinson had enough about him to overcome this handicap but it has become clear he does not. I do not dislike the guy and blame Duchatelet for our plight, but Robinson has shown he is definitely not the answer going forwards.
I can't take many more match days while the club is disintegrating before our eyes and I don't even go anymore.