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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833

    RC_CAFC said:

    Am I the only one who thinks it's been a great window? We've not lost any player that we were worried about losing. We've signed some really exciting players, if the first few games are anything to go by.

    We are playing really well, and we have two players for every position in the team (allowing the fact we don't know about Dodoo yet) but let's be honest Novak was sh*t! There was almost a protest in itself when it was discovered he was starting the first game of the season.

    I really believe we're in a strong position in this league. 100% still want our Belgian legion out but today is not the disaster people are claiming it is I don't think.

    I think it's pretty much been a good window. Pretty much every position has good competition or cover. Lots if good additions and we've not lot anyone key. However once again they have left us desperately short in a key area. We have one senior striker who can lead the line in our formation. Other than that we have a kid on loan who is more suited to a 2 up front system or playing out wide. Behind that kids.
    And none of the young strikers left are obvious No 9s
  • Valley11 said:

    This signing feels like such a return to the weirdness of recent years.
    Desperation, after selling an experienced striker to a rival. Clueless!!!!

    To be honest I'd prefer he was playing for a rival than us. I just can't believe or understand how, or why, we have managed to end up with one striker and a kid on loan.
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    My misses don't mind dildo tbf.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited August 2017
    Also worth noting Robinson and Steve Gallen have had a very good summer. It's possible Dodoo turns out to be a real diamond in the tough. Certainly look to have found one with Fosu.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Good window ruined at the end with stupidity. Needed to add a striker to improve, not go sideways.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Don't focus on what RD and KM don't do. Focus on what they Dodoo.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907

    So KR weren't messing..we do really need to be in contention before they sanction a grigg or Taylor sort of signing..if they did that now it would increase those chances surely? I hope Joe does well because he will become a scapegoat otherwise. Also any injuries to key players are always bad no matter where you are.
    Would people have trusted Novak to fill Mags boots if he was injured?

    I'd have trustwd Novak more than anyone we have now. Not because he was amazing but at least he fit the system.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,754
    I suspect we'll start with Clarke up front with Reeves behind him on Saturday. It's not ideal and I agree that I would have loved us to have got another big striker in, but I would take our squad over any other in league one.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982

    Valley11 said:

    This signing feels like such a return to the weirdness of recent years.
    Desperation, after selling an experienced striker to a rival. Clueless!!!!

    To be honest I'd prefer he was playing for a rival than us. I just can't believe or understand how, or why, we have managed to end up with one striker and a kid on loan.
    I bet Novak does well for Scunthorpe, as I believe he would have done for us given a run in the side.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    RC_CAFC said:

    Am I the only one who thinks it's been a great window? We've not lost any player that we were worried about losing. We've signed some really exciting players, if the first few games are anything to go by.

    We are playing really well, and we have two players for every position in the team (allowing the fact we don't know about Dodoo yet) but let's be honest Novak was sh*t! There was almost a protest in itself when it was discovered he was starting the first game of the season.

    I really believe we're in a strong position in this league. 100% still want our Belgian legion out but today is not the disaster people are claiming it is I don't think.

    We've got massive strength in depth at CB, a lot of depth in midfield when Marshall returns, but no depth up front. Dodoo is fine to bring off the bench, or if we need to switch to 4-4-2, but can't play as a lone striker, so there's no cover for Magennis who's a key player
    It's kind of weird. And there's no longer an emergency clause allowing us to buy if say Magennis was injured.

    But haven't there been other sides who have played a fluid system, who haven't had a great big fella up front to hold the ball up?
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  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,925
    I hope he is good in the air to help defend corners.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    I believe Regan Charles Cook has gone out on loan but can't see it mentioned
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    mart77 said:

    I believe Regan Charles Cook has gone out on loan but can't see it mentioned

    Did sky have him at Coventry
  • Redhenry said:

    Redhenry said:

    ross1 said:

    Sky:

    22:36
    IRONS SIGN NOVAK

    Scunthorpe United have completed the signing striker Lee Novak on a free transfer.

    Why is Katrien incapable of getting fees for players?
    Because he was on about 8/9 grand a week.
    And whose fault was that ?

    Aaaah, of course......!
    Slades no1 target...
    OK.

    But he didn't negotiate the contract details ....

    ...and who appointed that highly successful manager ?

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    RC_CAFC said:

    I suspect we'll start with Clarke up front with Reeves behind him on Saturday. It's not ideal and I agree that I would have loved us to have got another big striker in, but I would take our squad over any other in league one.

    This. Very important to remember we have a very good squad and I'd argue the best first XI in the league.

    And Clarke playing as a false nine could be very interesting. He's a very smart player and I think he could do a good job creating space for the likes of Holmes, Fosu, Reeves, and JFC to get forward.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    clb74 said:

    mart77 said:

    I believe Regan Charles Cook has gone out on loan but can't see it mentioned

    Did sky have him at Coventry
    I thought that was his brother who moved to Swindon today
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    JamesSeed said:

    RC_CAFC said:

    Am I the only one who thinks it's been a great window? We've not lost any player that we were worried about losing. We've signed some really exciting players, if the first few games are anything to go by.

    We are playing really well, and we have two players for every position in the team (allowing the fact we don't know about Dodoo yet) but let's be honest Novak was sh*t! There was almost a protest in itself when it was discovered he was starting the first game of the season.

    I really believe we're in a strong position in this league. 100% still want our Belgian legion out but today is not the disaster people are claiming it is I don't think.

    We've got massive strength in depth at CB, a lot of depth in midfield when Marshall returns, but no depth up front. Dodoo is fine to bring off the bench, or if we need to switch to 4-4-2, but can't play as a lone striker, so there's no cover for Magennis who's a key player
    It's kind of weird. And there's no longer an emergency clause allowing us to buy if say Magennis was injured.

    But haven't there been other sides who have played a fluid system, who haven't had a great big fella up front to hold the ball up?
    In the English third division? Doubt it.

    Who did Swansea have up front when they were promoted playing a passing game?
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,186
    mart77 said:

    clb74 said:

    mart77 said:

    I believe Regan Charles Cook has gone out on loan but can't see it mentioned

    Did sky have him at Coventry
    I thought that was his brother who moved to Swindon today
    They gave a name of Riece Charles cook I believe
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,925
    I am no fan of Novak but he should be playing up front on Saturday!
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  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,417
    T.C.E said:

    Charlton Athletic transfer deadline day 2016-17 repeated tonight at 11.00pm on UKGold. ;)

    Watching it again now, all very sad :(
  • Valley11 said:

    Valley11 said:

    This signing feels like such a return to the weirdness of recent years.
    Desperation, after selling an experienced striker to a rival. Clueless!!!!

    To be honest I'd prefer he was playing for a rival than us. I just can't believe or understand how, or why, we have managed to end up with one striker and a kid on loan.
    I bet Novak does well for Scunthorpe, as I believe he would have done for us given a run in the side.
    I suspect you might be right, but from what I saw last season I don't see him playing many games in a team that will be at the top of the division. He might get more than ten goals for The Iron this season but I doubt they will be top six if he plays enough games to get into double figures.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    edited August 2017

    I am no fan of Novak but he should be playing up front on Saturday!

    True, true, but I've never fancied our chances when he's been in the starting eleven. Have we, actually, won a game he started?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,729
    edited August 2017

    I am no fan of Novak but he should be playing up front on Saturday!

    True, true, but I've never fancies our chances when he's been in the starting eleven. Have we, actually, won a game he started?
    The fact he only started 16 games might be part of the issue.

    Coventry (h) 3-0, Scunthorpe (h) 2-1 - Bristol Rovers (h) 1-0 (although he didn't last long)
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,565
    edited August 2017
    So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SDAddick said:

    RC_CAFC said:

    I suspect we'll start with Clarke up front with Reeves behind him on Saturday. It's not ideal and I agree that I would have loved us to have got another big striker in, but I would take our squad over any other in league one.

    This. Very important to remember we have a very good squad and I'd argue the best first XI in the league.

    And Clarke playing as a false nine could be very interesting. He's a very smart player and I think he could do a good job creating space for the likes of Holmes, Fosu, Reeves, and JFC to get forward.
    Yes we have a good team and a decent squad. No to Clarke up front, just no. I can forgive them if we were always going to sign the Rangers lad to make 3 strikers but Novak demanded to leave, if we go out and sign a decent freebie like Lambert. But it won't happen.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Scoham said:

    JamesSeed said:

    RC_CAFC said:

    Am I the only one who thinks it's been a great window? We've not lost any player that we were worried about losing. We've signed some really exciting players, if the first few games are anything to go by.

    We are playing really well, and we have two players for every position in the team (allowing the fact we don't know about Dodoo yet) but let's be honest Novak was sh*t! There was almost a protest in itself when it was discovered he was starting the first game of the season.

    I really believe we're in a strong position in this league. 100% still want our Belgian legion out but today is not the disaster people are claiming it is I don't think.

    We've got massive strength in depth at CB, a lot of depth in midfield when Marshall returns, but no depth up front. Dodoo is fine to bring off the bench, or if we need to switch to 4-4-2, but can't play as a lone striker, so there's no cover for Magennis who's a key player
    It's kind of weird. And there's no longer an emergency clause allowing us to buy if say Magennis was injured.

    But haven't there been other sides who have played a fluid system, who haven't had a great big fella up front to hold the ball up?
    In the English third division? Doubt it.

    Who did Swansea have up front when they were promoted playing a passing game?
    It's a bit of a myth to say you need to play third division football to get out of the third division. Yes, you don't want to get bullied, but play football.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954

    Swisdom said:

    2 weeks ago Novak was fat, lazy and useless. Definitely not good enough for us. Now he's gone it's like we've sold Neymar.

    Last week we hated that the club conducted it's business in public - now it's being done quietly people are moaning.

    Nobody has seen Dodoo play so how about we give him a chance before dismissing him. He was incredibly highly rated at Leicester a couple of years ago so let's see how this plays out.

    No matter what KR says or how the PR team spin it, today has shown once again the nativity of those doing our business.
    I guess that means we'll have to wait until after Christmas.

  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330

    So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?

    Much better balance though wouldn't you say?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    T.C.E said:

    T.C.E said:

    Charlton Athletic transfer deadline day 2016-17 repeated tonight at 11.00pm on UKGold. ;)

    Watching it again now, all very sad :(
    Why sad. Best window for years. Not perfect, and it won't be with these owners, but I for one am looking forward to Oldham.