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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    How is the poor guy's name pronounced - is it as in s*** or as in as dead as a .. ? Either way it doesn't seem very fair to place as much reliance on a young inexperienced player as we might be doing here. Difficult to believe that KR has been given what he was looking for - points much more to RD trying to save cash, hopefully before selling the club.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?

    Ceballos.

  • I am no fan of Novak but he should be playing up front on Saturday!

    True, true, but I've never fancies our chances when he's been in the starting eleven. Have we, actually, won a game he started?
    The fact he only started 16 games might be part of the issue.

    Coventry (h) 3-0, Scunthorpe (h) 2-1
    So has he started 16 games for us in the third division and we've won none of them? I'm asking as I don't know.

    If that stat is true then I'm more than happy that he's gone. For £6k a week we should be winning 10 out of every 16 games he starts, should we not?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    JamesSeed said:

    Scoham said:

    JamesSeed said:

    RC_CAFC said:

    Am I the only one who thinks it's been a great window? We've not lost any player that we were worried about losing. We've signed some really exciting players, if the first few games are anything to go by.

    We are playing really well, and we have two players for every position in the team (allowing the fact we don't know about Dodoo yet) but let's be honest Novak was sh*t! There was almost a protest in itself when it was discovered he was starting the first game of the season.

    I really believe we're in a strong position in this league. 100% still want our Belgian legion out but today is not the disaster people are claiming it is I don't think.

    We've got massive strength in depth at CB, a lot of depth in midfield when Marshall returns, but no depth up front. Dodoo is fine to bring off the bench, or if we need to switch to 4-4-2, but can't play as a lone striker, so there's no cover for Magennis who's a key player
    It's kind of weird. And there's no longer an emergency clause allowing us to buy if say Magennis was injured.

    But haven't there been other sides who have played a fluid system, who haven't had a great big fella up front to hold the ball up?
    In the English third division? Doubt it.

    Who did Swansea have up front when they were promoted playing a passing game?
    It's a bit of a myth to say you need to play third division football to get out of the third division. Yes, you don't want to get bullied, but play football.
    Agree but at the same time I think there's a reason teams at this level don't play with "false 9s" or some of the set ups you see at the highest level.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?

    unfair comparison though as we didn't see Vetokele last signing. If we could add either him or Mavididi to this squad then I would be excited.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657

    Godden has scored 0 goals so far this season...

    Grigg has 1 goal his last 33 matches.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,565
    Redrobo said:

    So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?

    Much better balance though wouldn't you say?
    All in all I think we have had a fairly decent transfer window. We have a very strong looking midfield and our defence looks good, barring injuries to Dasilva/Solly (although Dijksteel looks very good from what I have seen of him).

    I am not convinced on the keepers yet, but at least we didn't let phillips go without a replacement.

    Striker wise I think we are way off. I really like Mag, he puts himself about, is very strong and does contribute some important goals. We need more than one striker that can score though and I am amazed we have reached the end of the window in this position considering how well we did in recruiting for the midfield positions. I worry about what happens if/when Mag gets injured or is on international duty.

    I thought we needed two strikers in today , then Novak left and we only got one.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    KAG and Dodoo are plan b - 442 with two 6 foot strikers.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    _MrDick said:

    They clearly don't do risk assessments at Charlton

    Or contingency planning - almost worth one of our promotion rivals kicking lumps out of Magennis so as to remove us as a rival.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    they never fall to disappoint----- utter clueless twats----if i hadnt already stopped going id boycott !
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    Every game this season, you could feel the crowd tense up every time Kashi goes down.

    This will be magnified every time Magennis goes down...
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,729
    edited August 2017

    I am no fan of Novak but he should be playing up front on Saturday!

    True, true, but I've never fancies our chances when he's been in the starting eleven. Have we, actually, won a game he started?
    The fact he only started 16 games might be part of the issue.

    Coventry (h) 3-0, Scunthorpe (h) 2-1
    So has he started 16 games for us in the third division and we've won none of them? I'm asking as I don't know.

    If that stat is true then I'm more than happy that he's gone. For £6k a week we should be winning 10 out of every 16 games he starts, should we not?
    I make it 14 starts in League One and one in each of the three cup competitions (so 17 in total). Three League One wins.

    I didn't particularly rate him and it goes without saying that Meire overpaid him, but you need experienced players in your squad.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Kashi and Konsa stay. Nuff said.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,269
    And this is why I said I wasn't going to get excited until the window closed.
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    RHF will surprise everyone this season and we'll sell him next year for £15M
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954

    RHF will surprise everyone this season and we'll sell him next year for £15M

    And we still won't buy a replacement.

  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    Every game this season, you could feel the crowd tense up every time Kashi goes down.

    This will be magnified every time Magennis goes down...

    Mrs Magennis certainly does.

  • So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?

    So compared to last season - we have signed 7 players (Fosu, Dodoo, Clarke, Marshall, Reeves, Amos and Dasilva (plus Kashi + Sarr returned)), how many have we seen out the door?

    7 Strikers: Ajose, Watt, Hanlan, Umerah, Vetokele, Novak and Mavididi

    2 Keepers: Rudd, Mitov

    4 Defenders: Chicksen, RJ, Thomas, Tex

    3 Midfielders: Botaka, Ulvestad, Byrne


    Am I missing anyone?

    Not sure we are missing any of those.

    Hackett and KAG will have to step up
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    The last Rangers striker we had did ok!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    Roland's constant reluctance to really kick on still baffles me each time.
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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    We kept both Konsa and Holmes.

    Would have given odds against that happening 3 months ago.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    it means fuck all keeping them if we r stuck in this shit league
  • Redrobo said:

    Kashi and Konsa stay. Nuff said.

    Agreed,I'm pleased we have them until January But they won't score 20 goals this year
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657

    it means fuck all keeping them if we r stuck in this shit league

    We could sell them, KR keeps the money, and we can be "stuck" in League Two. It CAN get worse.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,613

    The last Rangers striker we had did ok!

    I;m assuming you mean JJ. He was a proven goalscorer & a full International.
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    Quite a few players out there with out club's.Rickie lambert
  • I think this is the strongest squad we've had since Powell, In previous seasons we were easy to work out, with only one or two lines of supply (last year, stop Holmes or lookman you stop Charlton). This year we have goal threat all the way through the team.

    That said, I'm surprised we let Hanlan go out on loan today with Novak going out. Karl must have faith in KAG & RHF
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,978

    Roland's constant reluctance to really kick on still baffles me each time.

    The priority is to attempt to balance the books.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited August 2017
    If I told anyone three months ago we would...

    1. Keep Holmes
    2. Keep Magennis
    3. Keep Konsa
    4. Sign Reeves
    5. Sign Marshall
    6. Get Dasilva back again
    6. Sell Watt

    Most would have taken that in a heartbeat.

    We may not have ended the window well, but we look better than last year. Just 3 months ago I figured none of that would happen and we might be on our way to L2. Instead, I feel me might make top 6. We are improved, imho.

    It seems like relative progress.

    To hope for any more with RD as owner is simply not being realistic. I am all for pressuring him to sell, but given he is here now we are stuck with him, I think this was a good window. Frankly, I can't wait for this thread to be closed.

  • I am no fan of Novak but he should be playing up front on Saturday!

    True, true, but I've never fancies our chances when he's been in the starting eleven. Have we, actually, won a game he started?
    The fact he only started 16 games might be part of the issue.

    Coventry (h) 3-0, Scunthorpe (h) 2-1
    So has he started 16 games for us in the third division and we've won none of them? I'm asking as I don't know.

    If that stat is true then I'm more than happy that he's gone. For £6k a week we should be winning 10 out of every 16 games he starts, should we not?
    I make it 14 starts in League One and one in each of the three cup competitions (so 17 in total). Three League One wins.

    I didn't particularly rate him and it goes without saying that Meire overpaid him, but you need experienced players in your squad.
    Agreed!