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    Big fan of the Hoka Clifton 9s personally, although they did take a while to break in and caused a fair few blisters!
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    follett said:
    Has anyone got any recommendations for running shoes? It's about time I got a new pair 
    Can’t recommend shoes, but if local I’d recommend visiting the outlet centre at the O2 as they have ASICS, New Balance, Nike and Addidas shops all offering discounts, and regularly have weekends with additional centre discounts on top.

    Personally I can’t justify paying £100+ for a pair of running shoes. Tried a few pairs on there at the weekend and ended up with discounts buying a pair of Adidas Runfalcon 2.0 for just £28.  

    Will probably get injured on my first run but for my standard of running should hopefully be fine. 
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    Cheers, I'm not local but can easily double up a trip to the O2 with a trip to the Valley. I've tried cheaper shoes and expensive shoes and honestly for me it hasn't seemed to make too much difference. I'm having a few calf issues at the moment and my current set are so worn they offer next to no support to my feet so I'm hoping it's that rather than anything more fundamental as have marathon training coming up.
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    edited February 21
    I run very much on the outside of my heel so always end up with one side of my heel worn away and can get shin splint like soreness. I always try now when out running to evenly alternate between left and right sided pavements to ensure I’m balancing it out as much as ali can 
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    follett said:
    Has anyone got any recommendations for running shoes? It's about time I got a new pair 
    I'm used to Brooks for road, Asics for trail, not expensive ones as I have same issue as poster above re outside heel wear. I do have expensive fitted sole inserts, but they are a few years old and probably ineffective.

    l limit myself to 10k's now though, so don't get through nearly as many pairs. If I didn't run at all, that would be the ideal being more cost effective 😉
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    follett said:
    Cheers, I'm not local but can easily double up a trip to the O2 with a trip to the Valley. I've tried cheaper shoes and expensive shoes and honestly for me it hasn't seemed to make too much difference. I'm having a few calf issues at the moment and my current set are so worn they offer next to no support to my feet so I'm hoping it's that rather than anything more fundamental as have marathon training coming up.
    If you're planning on doing marathon distances I can't recommend highly enough visiting a proper running shop and getting your gait analysed. It's money well spent if you're going to be out for 3 hours+. Once you know whether your over/under pronating, need stability, cushioning, etc. and your budget, it'll be a lot easier getting the right pair than asking for specialist advice on here tbh.

    Generally, I've found that you get what you pay for with running shoes but I always try to pick up an older model, of the right sort, to save a bit of cash.
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    Anyone planning to do The Big Half? (Sunday September 1st)

    I started running last year and have only done 10Ks. Targeting to do a half marathon this year, just before I turn 50. Nice little present for myself? Maybe not.

    Flying over the day before and hope to see a home game Saturday. (Or Barnet away, the way our season is headed)

    Anyway, nice to know if any fellow Charlton Lifers will participate.
    not the big half, but I'm doing the London Landmarks Half Marathon on the 7th April - training isn't great as got a bit of a dodgy knee but did 10k in just under an hour the other day and currently doing 5k at around 28 min pace.

    fair play @wss that is a cracking time and I won't be challenging that!!

    similar to you I turn 50 in Sept this year so fancied challenging myself a little bit 
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    Anyone planning to do The Big Half? (Sunday September 1st)

    I started running last year and have only done 10Ks. Targeting to do a half marathon this year, just before I turn 50. Nice little present for myself? Maybe not.

    Flying over the day before and hope to see a home game Saturday. (Or Barnet away, the way our season is headed)

    Anyway, nice to know if any fellow Charlton Lifers will participate.
    not the big half, but I'm doing the London Landmarks Half Marathon on the 7th April - training isn't great as got a bit of a dodgy knee but did 10k in just under an hour the other day and currently doing 5k at around 28 min pace.

    fair play @wss that is a cracking time and I won't be challenging that!!

    similar to you I turn 50 in Sept this year so fancied challenging myself a little bit 
    Enjoy London Landmarks, that was my first ever race and it's a great atmosphere - defo caught the bug after that!
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    On the shoes, I'm a big Hoka fanboy - have three pairs (Speedgoat 5 for trails, Mach 5 for casual runs and Carbon X3 for races) and I love them. Never had blisters, last a good 500km and the colours are pretty...

    Also got a pair of On Cloud 5s for the gym but also done a few 5ks in them - a very comfortable shoe.
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    Bought my first pair of HOKA's got good shock asbsorbency, true size, tend to get my kit from Sportshoes.com really good on line and have some cracking deals👍 
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    edited February 22
    It's worth going to a running shop that does gait analysis when choosing a shoe.  That way you get the right shoe for you.  What works for one person may not be the answer for you.  Once you have settled on the right shoe/size, you don't really need to think about it again.  You can go to a discount store where the assistants know nothing about running, and get that shoe.  However, that type of store would be the last place I would go if I was just starting out or wanting to change shoe etc.

    I usually have a few pairs on the go, mainly for track/road.  However, I found to my cost in recent muddy UK parkruns that these shoes aren't great in the mud!  What do you guys wear for the cross country type conditions?  Trail shoes? The Exeter Riverside course wouldn't have passed a 1930s Valley pitch inspection!
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    Cross Country - Salomon Speedcross GTX.

    Road Running - Brooks Glycerin. First pair I had was 16-17 years ago and despite trying the Adrenaline & Ghost and a couple of other brands, came back to the Glycerin.

    Never pay full price for them, always shop around with discount codes etc, you can get them for £85-95 normally, rather than £140-150.

    Opposite to @AFKABartram, if you're doing proper mileage, invest in running shoes as you are risking long term damage to knees and hips.  Have seen far too many injuries to runners over the years due to choice of footwear.

    2 local shops of note...

    Up and Running - Sevenoaks
    The Runners Shop - Beckenham (was one of the first suppliers of Hoka's in the South East)

    Cannot recommend On Cloud 5s.  Absolutely appalling shoes with heel pads that disintegrated after only a week of ownership and doing 25 miles on them.  Sent them back under the guarantee and got a replacement pair and it happened again, even quicker.  Used the refund to buy a pair of there waterproof walking boots...and they wasn't bloody waterproof!  Wouldn't trust any of their products now after that episode.
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    edited February 22
    I run very much on the outside of my heel so always end up with one side of my heel worn away and can get shin splint like soreness. I always try now when out running to evenly alternate between left and right sided pavements to ensure I’m balancing it out as much as ali can 
    thats a sign of overpronation so you should be wearing shoes with support or custom orthotics/innersoles moulded to your feet, otherwise you risk long term damage.  Then you wouldnt get the shin splint soreness either.

    The surface you're running on doesnt cause it, its the angle of your heel strike.  I used to do the same thing. Next time you go out, try leaning slightly forwards of centre and you'll find you'll be striking forefoot first and it becomes a more efficient run and you'll suffer less trauma.
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    Yay, normal rubbishy times resumed at Dulwich today phew
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    Set a new PW today having been getting slower every week of late. That said, the course at Brixworth Country Park was made an out and back due to ice, which meant it was longer than it should have been by a tenth of a mile, and my time would have been inside my worst based on my pace. Still under 30 mins though, thank goodness as I'm convinced my getting over that would be a sign that the end of the world in nigh B)
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    Went south of the river for a change today to try out the Thames Path Woolwich, friendly people south of the river, who knew
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    edited February 24
    Went south of the river for a change today to try out the Thames Path Woolwich, friendly people south of the river, who knew
    I like that course.  Pretty flat and paved for most part.  That strange spiral path to the top of that mound at least has the corresponding downhill.  Another attraction being that great cafe/restaurant at the finish line.  Given that it's a relatively new event, it gets good numbers.  I think there were 260 when I ran it recently.  That seems to be the norm.  My advice to folk thinking of doing it in winter, is to check beforehand.  It was recently cancelled because of ice on paths. 



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    Was out boozing till last train so chose to spectate and cheer on my lad instead. Looked a great morning for running tbh. Just bumped into this mornings run director outside the Fans Bar funny enough
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    Did my last cross country of the season yesterday. Really enjoyed it despite the mud/puddles that would have been useful for WW1 trench warfare re-enactments. 

    Have a ten miler lined up at Easter and probably a 10k a bit after that. 
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    edited February 26

    After a lifestyle change over the last year, I have started to get into running from park runs started this year. This weekend managed to do it for the first time without any rest and notice a massive difference. 

    I think we continue looking to get quicker on 5k but have the thought of looking to get up to 10k by the end of the year. Any advice/plans on this as it seems a bit out of reach at present.


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    After a lifestyle change over the last year, I have started to get into running from park runs started this year. This weekend managed to do it for the first time without any rest and notice a massive difference. 

    I think we continue looking to get quicker on 5k but have the thought of looking to get up to 10k by the end of the year. Any advice/plans on this as it seems a bit out of reach at present.


    Ultimately the way to build up is to slowly increase time on your feet. Focus more on time than distance.

    So if you 5k in 30 minutes for example, maybe add a run where you run for 35 minutes (can walk at points if you need) don’t worry about how far you get. Don’t increase the time till you can run that without stopping then slowly add some time to that slow run build that up till you get to about 10km. The benefit is that this will help improve your 5k performance and conversely the 5k runs will help with working towards a 10k goal as well.




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    kigelia said:

    After a lifestyle change over the last year, I have started to get into running from park runs started this year. This weekend managed to do it for the first time without any rest and notice a massive difference. 

    I think we continue looking to get quicker on 5k but have the thought of looking to get up to 10k by the end of the year. Any advice/plans on this as it seems a bit out of reach at present.


    Ultimately the way to build up is to slowly increase time on your feet. Focus more on time than distance.

    So if you 5k in 30 minutes for example, maybe add a run where you run for 35 minutes (can walk at points if you need) don’t worry about how far you get. Don’t increase the time till you can run that without stopping then slowly add some time to that slow run build that up till you get to about 10km. The benefit is that this will help improve your 5k performance and conversely the 5k runs will help with working towards a 10k goal as well.




    You have already made the biggest step with 0 to 5KM.  If you can run 5K without stopping you will be able to get to 10K.  Agree with Kigelia, re: slow build up.  The 5K parkrun is a good building block to longer distances.
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    kigelia said:

    After a lifestyle change over the last year, I have started to get into running from park runs started this year. This weekend managed to do it for the first time without any rest and notice a massive difference. 

    I think we continue looking to get quicker on 5k but have the thought of looking to get up to 10k by the end of the year. Any advice/plans on this as it seems a bit out of reach at present.


    Ultimately the way to build up is to slowly increase time on your feet. Focus more on time than distance.

    So if you 5k in 30 minutes for example, maybe add a run where you run for 35 minutes (can walk at points if you need) don’t worry about how far you get. Don’t increase the time till you can run that without stopping then slowly add some time to that slow run build that up till you get to about 10km. The benefit is that this will help improve your 5k performance and conversely the 5k runs will help with working towards a 10k goal as well.




    You have already made the biggest step with 0 to 5KM.  If you can run 5K without stopping you will be able to get to 10K.  Agree with Kigelia, re: slow build up.  The 5K parkrun is a good building block to longer distances.
    Does it matter how many times a week you run ?  Couch to 5k has you running roughly 3 times a week.  I run twice a week and I'm struggling to improve my times plus if I miss a week that knocks me back about 3 weeks.
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    Hex said:
    kigelia said:

    After a lifestyle change over the last year, I have started to get into running from park runs started this year. This weekend managed to do it for the first time without any rest and notice a massive difference. 

    I think we continue looking to get quicker on 5k but have the thought of looking to get up to 10k by the end of the year. Any advice/plans on this as it seems a bit out of reach at present.


    Ultimately the way to build up is to slowly increase time on your feet. Focus more on time than distance.

    So if you 5k in 30 minutes for example, maybe add a run where you run for 35 minutes (can walk at points if you need) don’t worry about how far you get. Don’t increase the time till you can run that without stopping then slowly add some time to that slow run build that up till you get to about 10km. The benefit is that this will help improve your 5k performance and conversely the 5k runs will help with working towards a 10k goal as well.




    You have already made the biggest step with 0 to 5KM.  If you can run 5K without stopping you will be able to get to 10K.  Agree with Kigelia, re: slow build up.  The 5K parkrun is a good building block to longer distances.
    Does it matter how many times a week you run ?  Couch to 5k has you running roughly 3 times a week.  I run twice a week and I'm struggling to improve my times plus if I miss a week that knocks me back about 3 weeks.
    The more you run, within reason, the easier it becomes.  I try to run at least 3 times a week.  Sometimes, life gets in the way though.  It also depends on what you do for those 2 runs.  If you do the same thing, running at same pace, then nothing much will change.  Maybe break one run up into smaller chunks and go quicker than your usual 5k pace (for example slow warm up run, then 5x 400m with a minute break in between, then slow warm down etc), use the other run to go beyond 5K. If the parkrun is one of your 2 runs, then add a slow warm up pre race and warm down after.  Keep building.  Plenty of programs available online.

    Setting targets etc is a good thing.  
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    WSSWSS
    edited February 27


    This is either an incredibly great or an incredibly stupid idea...
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    Just the 50k @WSS ?

    Didnt fancy the adult version then? :-) 

    good luck mate
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    Hex said:
    kigelia said:

    After a lifestyle change over the last year, I have started to get into running from park runs started this year. This weekend managed to do it for the first time without any rest and notice a massive difference. 

    I think we continue looking to get quicker on 5k but have the thought of looking to get up to 10k by the end of the year. Any advice/plans on this as it seems a bit out of reach at present.


    Ultimately the way to build up is to slowly increase time on your feet. Focus more on time than distance.

    So if you 5k in 30 minutes for example, maybe add a run where you run for 35 minutes (can walk at points if you need) don’t worry about how far you get. Don’t increase the time till you can run that without stopping then slowly add some time to that slow run build that up till you get to about 10km. The benefit is that this will help improve your 5k performance and conversely the 5k runs will help with working towards a 10k goal as well.




    You have already made the biggest step with 0 to 5KM.  If you can run 5K without stopping you will be able to get to 10K.  Agree with Kigelia, re: slow build up.  The 5K parkrun is a good building block to longer distances.
    Does it matter how many times a week you run ?  Couch to 5k has you running roughly 3 times a week.  I run twice a week and I'm struggling to improve my times plus if I miss a week that knocks me back about 3 weeks.
    The more you run, within reason, the easier it becomes.  I try to run at least 3 times a week.  Sometimes, life gets in the way though.  It also depends on what you do for those 2 runs.  If you do the same thing, running at same pace, then nothing much will change.  Maybe break one run up into smaller chunks and go quicker than your usual 5k pace (for example slow warm up run, then 5x 400m with a minute break in between, then slow warm down etc), use the other run to go beyond 5K. If the parkrun is one of your 2 runs, then add a slow warm up pre race and warm down after.  Keep building.  Plenty of programs available online.

    Setting targets etc is a good thing.  
    I have recently been running Tuesdays (more then 5k) and Saturday parkruns.  This morning I ran 8.3km.  So, I will try to move my long run to Mondays and do some short 'speed' stuff on Wednesdays which should leave enough recovery time for parkrun.  It might work ....
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    Did my third successive Brixworth run (near Northampton) today to lay the ghost of last weeks all time PW before moving on. Did manage to shave more than a minute off it despite it being a mud bath, again! 😉

    Off to Chester next week for a 10k on Sunday. Haven't decided if I'll do the Parkrun there on Saturday yet. 
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    swordfish said:
    Did my third successive Brixworth run (near Northampton) today to lay the ghost of last weeks all time PW before moving on. Did manage to shave more than a minute off it despite it being a mud bath, again! 😉

    Off to Chester next week for a 10k on Sunday. Haven't decided if I'll do the Parkrun there on Saturday yet. 
    Anything to do in Northampton today as you’re there?
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    swordfish said:
    Did my third successive Brixworth run (near Northampton) today to lay the ghost of last weeks all time PW before moving on. Did manage to shave more than a minute off it despite it being a mud bath, again! 😉

    Off to Chester next week for a 10k on Sunday. Haven't decided if I'll do the Parkrun there on Saturday yet. 
    Anything to do in Northampton today as you’re there?
    Can't think of anything off the top of my head, although Northamptonshire's only  league club are going head to head with some bunch of upstarts from south London, or so they tell me. As for me, I've got other fish to fry and can't make it 😉
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