Lyle has a bit of a dilemma. If he doesn’t sign a new contract and IF no acceptable offer comes in for him, he will be stuck at Charlton for the remainder of the season on current wages. That’s a big hit for him to take with no certainty as to what offers he may receive when he is a free agent.
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I try and avoid Social Media If I can (it causes more harm than good) particularly Taylor - he plays a game, people get their knickers in a twist and it results in the brain dead section of our fans we have sending him abuse. He doesn’t do himself any favours though to be fair - he is my favourite player by a long way, but fuck me, he does like to be the centre of attention!
Even when I had a photo taken with him he made it all about him. I mean surely I was the legend in that picture?
I love Lyle. I’m sure most of us do. I know he's a bit of a diva at times but he’s articulate, his hearts in the right place and he’s an extremely deep thinker. For what ever reason he’s had a weird career, almost like he’s a bit of a hobo and clearly only fulfilled his potential with us. I hope all parties can be grown up and find a middle ground.
Lyle has a bit of a dilemma. If he doesn’t sign a new contract and IF no acceptable offer comes in for him, he will be stuck at Charlton for the remainder of the season on current wages. That’s a big hit for him to take with no certainty as to what offers he may receive when he is a free agent.
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I try and avoid Social Media If I can (it causes more harm than good) particularly Taylor - he plays a game, people get their knickers in a twist and it results in the brain dead section of our fans we have sending him abuse. He doesn’t do himself any favours though to be fair - he is my favourite player by a long way, but fuck me, he does like to be the centre of attention!
Even when I had a photo taken with him he made it all about him. I mean surely I was the legend in that picture?
"Hey Lyle, I have a combined total of 40k lol's and laughs on Charlton Life"
I was discussing the logistics of costs etc with a friend today. MS has been quite clever with his words. No his not for sale, unless something mouthwatering comes in, I take that as a bid of 5m all more, for a player with 6 months on his deal, however I'd hope that number was closer to 10m as losing lyle could be the difference between staying up or going down, anything less does not make any kind of sense.
Then What would it cost us to find another Lyle Taylor? Bare in mind the 13m price tag Peterborough have put on Toney, so 20k even 25k a week on a 2 year extension works out to between £2m and 2.6m over 2 years, throw in a 200k sign on fee, cover ourselves with a relegation release clause should things got tits up and we go down of say 4m, were covered and still walk away with a profit in a worse case scenario.
Matt if you need me I'm here all night 😁#BusinessMadeEasy
Lyle Taylor for 10 years was the Quintessential Journeyman footballer. From cleaning the boots of Neil Harris at 16 to arriving at Wimbledon at 26. Lyle had Played for 14 Clubs, 7 on loan by the time he arrived at Kingsmeadow. An unknown, who had a great scoring record at Falkirk ! Suddenly he was back in London and 131 games and 44 goals later he chose Cafc over Sunderland.
In 18 months Lyle Taylor and his personality plus his many goals and assists and his trademark walk to the penalty spot have made him famous in the EFL. A hero to Cafc fans, yet he may walk slowly away in the summer, unless a couple of million is paid in the January window ? Bowyer is desperate for Lyle to stay, that's why Lee fired the broadside about getting his own Contract sorted by Saturday as he knows that gives a positive message to Lyle. What is paramount is Taylor is a Charlton player till the Summer to make sure that the ESI "model" isn't blow out the water within 5 months.
Walk away at 30 if you have itchy feet and you can get 10k more a week with our blessing in the Summer but not now. Matt Southall must stick to his guns and be strong. Cafc immediate future depends on retaining our status in the Championship. We have a much better chance with Lyle than without him.
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad .
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad .
There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well.
Reminds me in some ways of the Kermogant episode. (Though I think Yann was a better player, and RD should have kept him).
Taylor's agent presumably upped his clients demands when it became known the new owners were based in Abu Dhabi and the club too the view instead that Taylor wasn't good enough to be given exceptional treatment.
I wonder of they saw this coming? The attempt to sign Armand Gnanduillet last summer might have been as a long stop for when Taylor left, because otherwise why would you replace one with the other? AG isn't IMO a shoe in for a side looking to finish in the upper levels of the Championship.
And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well.
What is bonus vitriol?
An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me.
And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well.
What is bonus vitriol?
An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me.
It was my attempt at a joke. Cawley said he didn't deserve vitriol. I thought it would be amusing to suggest that a footballer's agent might not understand the word and assume his player was missing out on something good. Clearly my odd sense of humour is set to fail mode again.
And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well.
What is bonus vitriol?
An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me.
It was my attempt at a joke. Cawley said he didn't deserve vitriol. I thought it would be amusing to suggest that a footballer's agent might not understand the word and assume his player was missing out on something good. Clearly my odd sense of humour is set to fail mode again.
No need for the self-deprecation @cafcfan - vitriol is one of my favourite words and to ally it with bonus was a stoke of genius. For those of a certain age - well Captain Beefheart was a past master of the art of bringing two unrelated words together and running with them -- fast and bulbous for example.
I guess we should get back on topic however - any news Lyle?
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad .
There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
TBH if I was in a car with Curbs I wouldn't say anything unless he specifically told me to.
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad .
There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad .
There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
TBH if I was in a car with Curbs I wouldn't say anything unless he specifically told me to.
Most people would have been asleep before reaching the Motorway with Curbishley in the car.
And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well.
What is bonus vitriol?
An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me.
MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season."
boom
Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May.
You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?
Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.
I just came on here to say...
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad .
There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
I thought the story was that Clive was quiet all the way down from Sunderland until they got close to E London & upon seeing a sign for Chigwell he said...."my missus loves birds of a feather"......
Or something close to that. Remember Curbs telling that "tale" at a Bromley supporters meeting one time
FFS offer Lyle a bit more and get him signed up he is our main hope of keeping in championship,if these new owners mean business lyle along with the manager and staff should of been signed up by now,this was a priority for me,Im disappointed this hasnt happened
I don’t think we can operate like that In the current situation. If we offer Taylor a bit more and he turns that down, do we offer him a bit more again? Matt Southall spoke about sustainability. Not sure it’s prudent to keep making players offers when we know he has turned down a good offer already - the maximum we want to go to.
In the grand scheme of things, we are currently a struggling Championship side with crowds of circa 17k. We could quite easily go down and have a 30 year old striker on 18k+ a week on our hands. Sunderland did that and look where they are now. It’s taken them a couple of years to clear out players on mega contracts - this is a team that get gates of 40k.
Taylor is doing what he should be doing - trying to get as much money as he can at the back end of his career. Say we did give him what he wanted - then what? - Players knocking at the door asking for more money. The owners can’t be seen to be rolling over and having there belly tickled.
I want Taylor to stay - he’s our main goal scorer and talisman....So were Hales, Bent, Mendonca, Hunt, Kermorgant etc, etc. They moved on and we moved on. Taylor will move on and somebody else will come in and be the main man.
The offer made to Taylor is off the table now and I actually quite like the fact that Southall had the balls to withdraw the offer and not be held to ransom.
Superb post. It'd also have a knock on effect to new signings too. If we give Taylor 18k a week then a new signing coming in with more experience at a higher level than Taylor says he wants 20k and it quickly gets out of control.
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Honestly not sure what to make of it at all.
The fact it was posted straight after the press conference tells me its related, but maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick.
"Really Dicky? Can I have your autograph?"
Then What would it cost us to find another Lyle Taylor? Bare in mind the 13m price tag Peterborough have put on Toney, so 20k even 25k a week on a 2 year extension works out to between £2m and 2.6m over 2 years, throw in a 200k sign on fee, cover ourselves with a relegation release clause should things got tits up and we go down of say 4m, were covered and still walk away with a profit in a worse case scenario.
Matt if you need me I'm here all night 😁#BusinessMadeEasy
From cleaning the boots of Neil Harris at 16 to arriving at Wimbledon at 26. Lyle had Played for 14 Clubs, 7 on loan by the time he arrived at Kingsmeadow.
An unknown, who had a great scoring record at Falkirk ! Suddenly he was back in London and 131 games and 44 goals later he chose Cafc over Sunderland.
In 18 months Lyle Taylor and his personality plus his many goals and assists and his trademark walk to the penalty spot have made him famous in the EFL. A hero to Cafc fans, yet he may walk slowly away in the summer, unless a couple of million is paid in the January window ? Bowyer is desperate for Lyle to stay, that's why Lee fired the broadside about getting his own Contract sorted by Saturday as he knows that gives a positive message to Lyle.
What is paramount is Taylor is a Charlton player till the Summer to make sure that the ESI "model" isn't blow out the water within 5 months.
Walk away at 30 if you have itchy feet and you can get 10k more a week with our blessing in the Summer but not now.
Matt Southall must stick to his guns and be strong. Cafc immediate future depends on retaining our status in the Championship.
We have a much better chance with Lyle than without him.
I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality.
Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
Lyle to Rangers confirmed.
I guess we should get back on topic however - any news Lyle?
Or something close to that. Remember Curbs telling that "tale" at a Bromley supporters meeting one time