By all means protest and take it to Belgium, but calling for a boycott like this seems divisive rather than a unifying call as some fans will see it as disloyal or simply wouldn't countenance it. Above all it is unlikely to make any difference. CARD have done everything right until now, but something about this isn't right for me, sorry.
By all means protest and take it to Belgium, but calling for a boycott like this seems divisive rather than a unifying call as some fans will see it as disloyal or simply wouldn't countenance it. Above all it is unlikely to make any difference. CARD have done everything right until now, but something about this isn't right for me, sorry.
I’ll still go. No amount of boycotting will speed up the process. Only a 100% boycott would draw the attention of the press. Anything else is pointless
That’s been the problem all along, 100% boycott was/is the only thing that will work
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
I support Card all the way but with the best part of 5k season tickets already sold I can't see much of a boycott other than those that will boycott regardless.
Indeed. In hindsight, boycott calls were for 2 years ago, and I’m still not convinced it would have worked then.
Too many maybes are still in play. If this takeover collapses, nothing else emerges and RD is still squeezing things down, then they need to start again in a big way with widespread support. Right now seems half hearted and ultimately pointless imo.
People will make their own choices. For me, knowing a little of Duchatelet's treatment of suppliers, players and staff right now, not a penny more for him from me.
Fully supportive of the CARD statement, as a protest and as a prudent choice right now.
Agree completely that is is a pointless exercise and a matter of self promotion by some. Picking up on selective areas to justify a boycott and advance there own agenda.
As so many have said, what about supporting the team? Do people really think that such an exercise will accelerate the process or make it move any quicker. If this is an administrative matter with all key points agreed and now awaiting forms lodged, then all I can see this doing is alienating the players and manager - the very ones we should be supporting now.
Do people really think that at the start of a such an important season - we so need to get out of this league this year given all the players coming off contract at the end of it - that not getting behind the team is going to help in any way.
Small minded, self obsessed and plain mad
That's an argument for never doing anything ever, in any circumstance. Can't buy that one at all.
How can it be self promotion when no names have been put to it? As I understand it policy is made by coalition, statements are a result of that consensus. Small minded is putting your head in the sand and saying "support the team" as if boycotters aren't doing exactly that in the objective behind the action.
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
I won't be going to games until he's gone. That's as a result of backing CARD and is of course to my cost - I've not bought a season ticket for 2 years after about 25 unbroken, but still went to many home games last year - but like I say - not a penny more now until he's gone.
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
I won't be going to games until he's gone. That's as a result of backing CARD and is of course to my cost - I've not bought a season ticket for 2 years after about 25 unbroken, but still went to many home games last year - but like I say - not a penny more now until he's gone.
I don’t understand when you say not a penny more but went to many home games... am I missing something here?
Not the story here, but nice of the board to avoid asking us members the question and settling on policy based on their own preferences. Voice of the fans, right?
If even CARD can't present a united front on this issue then for me the statement was the wrong call. CAST have just immediately undermined it with their own statement.
CARD have done a brilliant job but when the philosophical divide cuts that deep it ceases to be the cohesive coalition it was set up to be. From my perspective i'd say thanks to those involved and I appreciate your combined efforts which 100%, have contributed to getting RD to sell but I think they have done all they can, and should consider taking a step back, for now at least because the mixed messages can't contribute anything positive to the cause at this stage.
If even CARD can't present a united front on this issue then for me the statement was the wrong call. CAST have just immediately undermined it with their own statement.
CARD have done a brilliant job but when the philosophical divide cuts that deep it ceases to be the cohesive coalition it was set up to be. From my perspective i'd say thanks to those involved and I appreciate your combined efforts which 100%, have contributed to getting RD to sell but I think they have done all they can, and should consider taking a step back, for now at least because the mixed messages can't contribute anything positive to the cause at this stage.
If individual members of the trust board had ever been given a veto on CARD activity, there would probably have been no protests by CARD at all.
This is less about a change in the position between CARD and the trust than the fact that a boycott puts individuals on the spot.
If even CARD can't present a united front on this issue then for me the statement was the wrong call. CAST have just immediately undermined it with their own statement.
CARD have done a brilliant job but when the philosophical divide cuts that deep it ceases to be the cohesive coalition it was set up to be. From my perspective i'd say thanks to those involved and I appreciate your combined efforts which 100%, have contributed to getting RD to sell but I think they have done all they can, and should consider taking a step back, for now at least because the mixed messages can't contribute anything positive to the cause at this stage.
If individual members of the trust board had ever been given a veto on CARD activity, there would probably have been no protests by CARD at all.
I understand you won't get 100% agreement all thetime, or maybe ever! it's the nature of the beast when you have many different personalities with varying ideas. My point is that to my knowlege, CAST has never immediately come out and contradicted/,undermined a CARD statement like this publicly before which suggests it is a pretty major philosophical divide.
CARD has to make the call it thinks is appropriate. It doesn't mean it is the right one, or the wrong one but CARD have made it and it is perfectly reasonable for it to do so. I seriously doubt if it will alter too many positions either way- I am not going until Duchatelet goes, but decided that prior to this announcement.
Hopefully the deal will finally go through and we can all focus on the football.
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
If even CARD can't present a united front on this issue then for me the statement was the wrong call. CAST have just immediately undermined it with their own statement.
CARD have done a brilliant job but when the philosophical divide cuts that deep it ceases to be the cohesive coalition it was set up to be. From my perspective i'd say thanks to those involved and I appreciate your combined efforts which 100%, have contributed to getting RD to sell but I think they have done all they can, and should consider taking a step back, for now at least because the mixed messages can't contribute anything positive to the cause at this stage.
If individual members of the trust board had ever been given a veto on CARD activity, there would probably have been no protests by CARD at all.
I understand you won't get 100% agreement all thetime, or maybe ever! it's the nature of the beast when you have many different personalities with varying ideas. My point is that to my knowlege, CAST has never immediately come out and contradicted/,undermined a CARD statement like this publicly before which suggests it is a pretty major philosophical divide.
Or that trust board members with season tickets were aware they would be called out on this one, whereas trust board members who have never participated in other protests would go under the radar.
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
The boycott was the subject of detailed discussion among about a dozen or so different people over many weeks. The only people who dissented from it were CAST, because some of their board members have bought season tickets.
My view is that it is the right policy but it was never going to be something that commanded overwhelming support or be particularly effective so I have argued against making the statement, but it’s the clear view of the vast majority involved.
So the CAST board members cant give thier season tickets back then. Is this a boycott or not.
It's a decision for each individual to make isn't it?
So it's not a boycott then?
It's a boycott if you don't go to home matches as a protest. Down to the individual.
This was always going to be a very contentious decision.
For me, the key point is that we can't slide into another season under Duchatelet's ownership without making it clear we haven't gone away. Would anyone really want him to get the idea that all is forgiven and maybe he should start again? I don't actually think the delay in the takeover is wholly down to Duchatelet (although there is no doubt in my mind that it's his inflated price which has deterred earlier bidders) but putting a bit of further economic pressure and media spotlight on him won't do any harm at all.
I don't think anyone actually wants to boycott and are hoping that the takeover goes through before the boycott actually comes into effect. But it's not enough, in my opinion, just to let things roll interminably on without trying to do something to influence the situation.
The whole issue of a boycott represents a major dilemma, as is illustrated by the difference of view as between CARD and CAST.
As others have said, CARD’s call for a boycott IF the takeover hasn’t completed by 4 August does feel a little desperate but the reality is that we are in a desperate position and the club - and it’s supporters - have now been in limbo for several months. There is a general sense of impotence and what other options do CARD have, other than to do nothing ? I suspect that they are trying to give the process a nudge, in so far as they are able - perhaps to the Australians, as well as Roland - and there is plenty of scope for them to modify their position over the next three and a half weeks if there are real and tangible developments before the first home game.
On the other hand, many supporters are going to be loathe to boycott home matches when the public position of both Duchatelet and the Australians is that they wish to complete the takeover and we are all in the dark as to what is, in truth, holding things up. Supporters who have purchased season tickets are going to be particularly reluctant not to attend games in the present circumstances.
What really will unite the vast majority of our remaining supporters is if the deal with the Aussies falls through and we are faced with further withering on the vine under Duchatelet. In that scenario, I can see that a full blown boycott and vigorous protests may encourage him to a more realistic view on the sum he is seeking for the club.
The CAST statement was an honest and well presented reasonable statement. Too many folk are having way way too much angst about it....CAST are not criticising CARD and CARD are not criticising CAST. Some folk seem to be spitting their dummies out about this.....I just can’t get my head round why that’s the case. There are numerous ways fans can show their disenchantment with the regime and each and every one of us will do exactly what we see fit. We don’t ‘have to’ follow any set pattern or direction from others, we just do as we see fit......and that’s simply the way it should be.....CARD & CAST are just there to give us some suggestions now and again and to let the regime know that us fans and they aren’t going to give up the fight. I have seen a couple of complete knobheads suggesting that certain individuals have ‘agendas’.....what fucking agendas? If you insist on saying such a thing then bloody well give names and examples of what these mysterious agendas are.....cos I’m fucked if I know and in truth neither do you!
I think we are just holding fire until the imminent takeover - hopefully not long now. As Davo said, we can't allow Duchatelet to think we have stopped our opposition to him. It may be a small factor in any decisions he makes, but even so, we have to make sure it is there. It isn't just financial, he knows there are people who will seek him out and annoy him and try to embaress him. He is not forgiven or forgotten.
I think we are just holding fire until the imminent takeover - hopefully not long now. As Davo said, we can't allow Duchatelet to think we have stopped our opposition to him. It may be a small factor in any decisions he makes, but even so, we have to make sure it is there. It isn't just financial, he knows there are people who will seek him out and annoy him and try to embaress him. He is not forgiven or forgotten.
If even CARD can't present a united front on this issue then for me the statement was the wrong call. CAST have just immediately undermined it with their own statement.
CARD have done a brilliant job but when the philosophical divide cuts that deep it ceases to be the cohesive coalition it was set up to be. From my perspective i'd say thanks to those involved and I appreciate your combined efforts which 100%, have contributed to getting RD to sell but I think they have done all they can, and should consider taking a step back, for now at least because the mixed messages can't contribute anything positive to the cause at this stage.
If individual members of the trust board had ever been given a veto on CARD activity, there would probably have been no protests by CARD at all.
I understand you won't get 100% agreement all thetime, or maybe ever! it's the nature of the beast when you have many different personalities with varying ideas. My point is that to my knowlege, CAST has never immediately come out and contradicted/,undermined a CARD statement like this publicly before which suggests it is a pretty major philosophical divide.
Or that trust board members with season tickets were aware they would be called out on this one, whereas trust board members who have never participated in other protests would go under the radar.
I get what you're saying airman. I also understand how difficult a decision it can be to decide to boycott - did so myself 2 years ago and wasn't a choice I made lightly. I hadn't realized some of the trust board had been so unprepared to get involved in the previous protests - I'm glad I'm not a paid up member if that is the case.
I support Card all the way but with the best part of 5k season tickets already sold I can't see much of a boycott other than those that will boycott regardless.
Indeed. In hindsight, boycott calls were for 2 years ago, and I’m still not convinced it would have worked then.
Too many maybes are still in play. If this takeover collapses, nothing else emerges and RD is still squeezing things down, then they need to start again in a big way with widespread support. Right now seems half hearted and ultimately pointless imo.
People will make their own choices. For me, knowing a little of Duchatelet's treatment of suppliers, players and staff right now, not a penny more for him from me.
Fully supportive of the CARD statement, as a protest and as a prudent choice right now.
Ah, so if you want fans to boycott based on Duchatelet's treatment of suppliers, players and staff, should this not be shared with the fans ?
I assume one or more of the more level headed members of CARD have left, or have been outnumbered by the more militant.
In reality this call to boycott has little consequence, as others have already said. If you've not decided whether you wish to support the team after 4 years, you never will. If you want to support the team you will and if you don't you won't. This will change very little, other than maybe a few hundred who are unable to make a decision for themselves.
If CARD know for certain that it is RD delaying the sale, then please supply the evidence, because that would put a different slant on matters.
As it stands we are led to believe the delay is with the Aussies needing to submit further documentation to the EFL. I am not criticising the Aussies.
If this is designed to get RD or Murray to make a further statement, then that's fine with me, but of course whenever a club statement is made it is dismissed as lies / not the whole truth.
I have no strong views on CARD's statement either way, so let's see if it helps to move the sale forward or not.
It will be interesting to see Rick boycotting I have to say.
We are all Charlton, so I just hope this doesn't divide the fan base further, as opposed to bringing it together.
I won't be going to games until he's gone. That's as a result of backing CARD and is of course to my cost - I've not bought a season ticket for 2 years after about 25 unbroken, but still went to many home games last year - but like I say - not a penny more now until he's gone.
It's a funny old situation. A couple of years ago I was imploring you to protest.
Not the story here, but nice of the board to avoid asking us members the question and settling on policy based on their own preferences. Voice of the fans, right?
I thought it a decent statement, but as you say seems rather undemocratic.
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I have been boycotting since August the 4th 2008.
Is this a boycott or not.
Fully supportive of the CARD statement, as a protest and as a prudent choice right now.
How can it be self promotion when no names have been put to it? As I understand it policy is made by coalition, statements are a result of that consensus. Small minded is putting your head in the sand and saying "support the team" as if boycotters aren't doing exactly that in the objective behind the action.
CARD have done a brilliant job but when the philosophical divide cuts that deep it ceases to be the cohesive coalition it was set up to be. From my perspective i'd say thanks to those involved and I appreciate your combined efforts which 100%, have contributed to getting RD to sell but I think they have done all they can, and should consider taking a step back, for now at least because the mixed messages can't contribute anything positive to the cause at this stage.
This is less about a change in the position between CARD and the trust than the fact that a boycott puts individuals on the spot.
Hopefully the deal will finally go through and we can all focus on the football.
For me, the key point is that we can't slide into another season under Duchatelet's ownership without making it clear we haven't gone away. Would anyone really want him to get the idea that all is forgiven and maybe he should start again? I don't actually think the delay in the takeover is wholly down to Duchatelet (although there is no doubt in my mind that it's his inflated price which has deterred earlier bidders) but putting a bit of further economic pressure and media spotlight on him won't do any harm at all.
I don't think anyone actually wants to boycott and are hoping that the takeover goes through before the boycott actually comes into effect. But it's not enough, in my opinion, just to let things roll interminably on without trying to do something to influence the situation.
As others have said, CARD’s call for a boycott IF the takeover hasn’t completed by 4 August does feel a little desperate but the reality is that we are in a desperate position and the club - and it’s supporters - have now been in limbo for several months. There is a general sense of impotence and what other options do CARD have, other than to do nothing ? I suspect that they are trying to give the process a nudge, in so far as they are able - perhaps to the Australians, as well as Roland - and there is plenty of scope for them to modify their position over the next three and a half weeks if there are real and tangible developments before the first home game.
On the other hand, many supporters are going to be loathe to boycott home matches when the public position of both Duchatelet and the Australians is that they wish to complete the takeover and we are all in the dark as to what is, in truth, holding things up. Supporters who have purchased season tickets are going to be particularly reluctant not to attend games in the present circumstances.
What really will unite the vast majority of our remaining supporters is if the deal with the Aussies falls through and we are faced with further withering on the vine under Duchatelet. In that scenario, I can see that a full blown boycott and vigorous protests may encourage him to a more realistic view on the sum he is seeking for the club.
Too many folk are having way way too much angst about it....CAST are not criticising CARD and CARD are not criticising CAST.
Some folk seem to be spitting their dummies out about this.....I just can’t get my head round why that’s the case.
There are numerous ways fans can show their disenchantment with the regime and each and every one of us will do exactly what we see fit.
We don’t ‘have to’ follow any set pattern or direction from others, we just do as we see fit......and that’s simply the way it should be.....CARD & CAST are just there to give us some suggestions now and again and to let the regime know that us fans and they aren’t going to give up the fight.
I have seen a couple of complete knobheads suggesting that certain individuals have ‘agendas’.....what fucking agendas?
If you insist on saying such a thing then bloody well give names and examples of what these mysterious agendas are.....cos I’m fucked if I know and in truth neither do you!