Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
heaven forbid some one provides evidence! It's obviously all just "fake news". Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
All you had provided in your lengthy post is examples of corbyn either being deeply unhelpful to the foreign office or just being a contrarian. He was a backbench opposition MP when much of his actions re the IRA were ongoing, it's a bit like an u21 sub beating the crystal palace manager at a game of pool and claiming he's helping.
Please remember this was years after the conflict ^
Lets also look at his opposition to military intervention in sierra leone, which saved democracy in the african nation and his other dismal and sickening opposition to humanitarian intervention:
As for anti semitism and, in his own words, a friend to terrorist who seek to kill every last jew they can find, here's him literally calling them a friend, you can see for yourself:
I suppose if you're mates with some one who literally wants to kill every last jew on the planet it totally clears you of any wrong doing? Here's also a good article by David Baddiel, who suffers anti semitic abuse on twitter almost daily from corbyn supporters:
I refuse to believe some one who has campaigned so passionately against racism can be so blind to the anti semitism in that mural.
But what you're also implying is that those that do not support corbyn are some what less of a human than those that do, which is an incredibly dangerous and worrying path to go down. Corbyn isn't the answer, neither are the tories. In short, we're fucked. But corbyn is just as bad as the tories.
Sheesh.
I don't like Corbyn, but go back and see what I had to say about EDMs perhaps and how Corbyn has signed ones that explicitly condemn anti-Semitism?!
Or do you refuse to see that as evidence?
The Chelsea fan arrested on suspicion of racially abusing Raheem Sterling has publicly condemned racial abuse. Does that now mean he's not racist?
Hi there. You must be new to the thread. Go back and read everything I've said about nuance, then contextualise my comments, as I have consistently emphasised is necessary when discussing Corbyn.
In terms of 'abundance' i think the tally at the moment is 6 out of 100. 94 to go. Of the 6 presented so far they are not very convincing for reasons I have stated. I have not classed anything as fake news or misreporting, but engaged with those reports as they appear and taken them at face value. However when considering them I have concluded so far that they have very little value, not that they are fake news or misreporting.
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
heaven forbid some one provides evidence! It's obviously all just "fake news". Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
All you had provided in your lengthy post is examples of corbyn either being deeply unhelpful to the foreign office or just being a contrarian. He was a backbench opposition MP when much of his actions re the IRA were ongoing, it's a bit like an u21 sub beating the crystal palace manager at a game of pool and claiming he's helping.
Please remember this was years after the conflict ^
Lets also look at his opposition to military intervention in sierra leone, which saved democracy in the african nation and his other dismal and sickening opposition to humanitarian intervention:
As for anti semitism and, in his own words, a friend to terrorist who seek to kill every last jew they can find, here's him literally calling them a friend, you can see for yourself:
I suppose if you're mates with some one who literally wants to kill every last jew on the planet it totally clears you of any wrong doing? Here's also a good article by David Baddiel, who suffers anti semitic abuse on twitter almost daily from corbyn supporters:
I refuse to believe some one who has campaigned so passionately against racism can be so blind to the anti semitism in that mural.
But what you're also implying is that those that do not support corbyn are some what less of a human than those that do, which is an incredibly dangerous and worrying path to go down. Corbyn isn't the answer, neither are the tories. In short, we're fucked. But corbyn is just as bad as the tories.
Sheesh.
I don't like Corbyn, but go back and see what I had to say about EDMs perhaps and how Corbyn has signed ones that explicitly condemn anti-Semitism?!
Or do you refuse to see that as evidence?
The Chelsea fan arrested on suspicion of racially abusing Raheem Sterling has publicly condemned racial abuse. Does that now mean he's not racist?
Hi there. You must be new to the thread. Go back and read everything I've said about nuance, then contextualise my comments, as I have consistently emphasised is necessary when discussing Corbyn.
Hi there,
Been here from the start of the thread and read it all.
I was just sitting here writing the word 'nuance' over and over again, predicting your reply. Bang, there it was. The chances, eh?
It's always a different set of rules when the tables are turned.
The logic still applies, regardless of how much contextualising and nuancing you throw in the way.
In terms of 'abundance' i think the tally at the moment is 6 out of 100. 94 to go. Of the 6 presented so far they are not very convincing for reasons I have stated. I have not classed anything as fake news or misreporting, but engaged with those reports as they appear and taken them at face value. However when considering them I have concluded so far that they have very little value, not that they are fake news or misreporting.
so a politician needs 100 different reasons or examples to be criticised for something? Completely ridiculous thing to claim and is the reason i had never engaged with you on the "100 reasons why" quest you're trying to get.
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
Spot on. Unwavered and class every story as fake news or misreporting.
It's uncanny.
When you say 'story' what do you mean by that?
News report.
You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Right back at you, mate.
I'm not the one applying different rules depending on the political leaning of a politician, mate.
I honestly can't remember the last time I attacked a Conservative party politician on here. I'm happy to eat crow if you can point me toward prior logical inconsistencies. My game tends to be defensive in nature.
Good to see Charlton life's resident troll @Greenie sparking into action before the christmas holidays.
Hello socially unaware cunt, still following me around like a lap dog then, yer fucking retard.
You're the one who commented on my thread mate, but great trolling again, when are the admins going to ban this guy?
You really are a 24 carat gold kunt, you actually have no idea of what you have said to get that reaction, do you? Fucking hell, that is a worry. Who new it was YOUR thread? Not me. Ha Ha.......this is priceless..! I have lost count of the number of time I have asked you, initially politely that every time I post something on CL that you stop accusing me of Trolling, recently you have liked a couple of my posts, even though I have requested no interaction with you whatsoever, I guess in some way to garner affection with me, I guess you're doing that thing teenage kids do, you know, insult someone, but deep down you are in love with them. Then the next time you comment on one of my posts, its back to calling me a Troll, which as you know, is an insult, I then call you a cunt, and you run to mummy 'when are the admins going to ban this guy'. HaHa fuck off! Oh yes, you keep calling me mate, I know, and you know, that you dont have any of them, me included. Now for the umpteenth time (again), leave me alone. I kinda feel sorry for you, really, it must be very lonely being you, especially at this time of year. Oh I see you have sent me a private message. This is going to be interesting.
Simply bizarre. I thought Trump's twitter meltdowns were bad.
In terms of 'abundance' i think the tally at the moment is 6 out of 100. 94 to go. Of the 6 presented so far they are not very convincing for reasons I have stated. I have not classed anything as fake news or misreporting, but engaged with those reports as they appear and taken them at face value. However when considering them I have concluded so far that they have very little value, not that they are fake news or misreporting.
so a politician needs 100 different reasons or examples to be criticised for something? Completely ridiculous thing to claim and is the reason i had never engaged with you on the "100 reasons why" quest you're trying to get.
No it is Henry's claim that he has 100 examples, not you.
Good to see Charlton life's resident troll @Greenie sparking into action before the christmas holidays.
Hello socially unaware cunt, still following me around like a lap dog then, yer fucking retard.
You're the one who commented on my thread mate, but great trolling again, when are the admins going to ban this guy?
You really are a 24 carat gold kunt, you actually have no idea of what you have said to get that reaction, do you? Fucking hell, that is a worry. Who new it was YOUR thread? Not me. Ha Ha.......this is priceless..! I have lost count of the number of time I have asked you, initially politely that every time I post something on CL that you stop accusing me of Trolling, recently you have liked a couple of my posts, even though I have requested no interaction with you whatsoever, I guess in some way to garner affection with me, I guess you're doing that thing teenage kids do, you know, insult someone, but deep down you are in love with them. Then the next time you comment on one of my posts, its back to calling me a Troll, which as you know, is an insult, I then call you a cunt, and you run to mummy 'when are the admins going to ban this guy'. HaHa fuck off! Oh yes, you keep calling me mate, I know, and you know, that you dont have any of them, me included. Now for the umpteenth time (again), leave me alone. I kinda feel sorry for you, really, it must be very lonely being you, especially at this time of year. Oh I see you have sent me a private message. This is going to be interesting.
Simply bizarre. I thought Trump's twitter meltdowns were bad.
I have responded to your message. Lets leave it there.
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
Spot on. Unwavered and class every story as fake news or misreporting.
It's uncanny.
When you say 'story' what do you mean by that?
News report.
You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Right back at you, mate.
I'm not the one applying different rules depending on the political leaning of a politician, mate.
I honestly can't remember the last time I attacked a Conservative party politician on here. I'm happy to eat crow if you can point me toward prior logical inconsistencies. My game tends to be defensive in nature.
Maybe I should have said that you haven't defended all politicians with the same fervour as you have done here. Can't ever remember seeing people being told to contextualise anything against Theresa May or the Tories *spit*.
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
Spot on. Unwavered and class every story as fake news or misreporting.
It's uncanny.
When you say 'story' what do you mean by that?
News report.
You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Right back at you, mate.
I'm not the one applying different rules depending on the political leaning of a politician, mate.
I honestly can't remember the last time I attacked a Conservative party politician on here. I'm happy to eat crow if you can point me toward prior logical inconsistencies. My game tends to be defensive in nature.
Maybe I should have said that you haven't defended all politicians with the same fervour as you have done here. Can't ever remember seeing people being told to contextualize anything against Theresa May or the Tories *spit*.
I could be wrong.
Bad wording by me. Apologies.
Equally, I don't see any politician hounded quite so vituperatively as Corbyn (and certainly not on one particular topic by one particular poster).
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
Spot on. Unwavered and class every story as fake news or misreporting.
It's uncanny.
When you say 'story' what do you mean by that?
News report.
You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Right back at you, mate.
I'm not the one applying different rules depending on the political leaning of a politician, mate.
I honestly can't remember the last time I attacked a Conservative party politician on here. I'm happy to eat crow if you can point me toward prior logical inconsistencies. My game tends to be defensive in nature.
Maybe I should have said that you haven't defended all politicians with the same fervour as you have done here. Can't ever remember seeing people being told to contextualize anything against Theresa May or the Tories *spit*.
I could be wrong.
Bad wording by me. Apologies.
Equally, I don't see any politician hounded quite so vituperatively as Corbyn (and certainly not on one particular topic by one particular poster).
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
Spot on. Unwavered and class every story as fake news or misreporting.
It's uncanny.
When you say 'story' what do you mean by that?
News report.
You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Right back at you, mate.
I'm not the one applying different rules depending on the political leaning of a politician, mate.
I honestly can't remember the last time I attacked a Conservative party politician on here. I'm happy to eat crow if you can point me toward prior logical inconsistencies. My game tends to be defensive in nature.
Maybe I should have said that you haven't defended all politicians with the same fervour as you have done here. Can't ever remember seeing people being told to contextualize anything against Theresa May or the Tories *spit*.
I could be wrong.
Bad wording by me. Apologies.
Equally, I don't see any politician hounded quite so vituperatively as Corbyn (and certainly not on one particular topic by one particular poster).
It's just that I could be arsed this time.
The fact that it is primarily one poster somewhat diminishes the collective hounding.
Now, if you want to start a thread on Thatcher just watch me go!!!
Good to see Charlton life's resident troll @Greenie sparking into action before the christmas holidays.
Hello socially unaware cunt, still following me around like a lap dog then, yer fucking retard.
You're the one who commented on my thread mate, but great trolling again, when are the admins going to ban this guy?
You really are a 24 carat gold kunt, you actually have no idea of what you have said to get that reaction, do you? Fucking hell, that is a worry. Who new it was YOUR thread? Not me. Ha Ha.......this is priceless..! I have lost count of the number of time I have asked you, initially politely that every time I post something on CL that you stop accusing me of Trolling, recently you have liked a couple of my posts, even though I have requested no interaction with you whatsoever, I guess in some way to garner affection with me, I guess you're doing that thing teenage kids do, you know, insult someone, but deep down you are in love with them. Then the next time you comment on one of my posts, its back to calling me a Troll, which as you know, is an insult, I then call you a cunt, and you run to mummy 'when are the admins going to ban this guy'. HaHa fuck off! Oh yes, you keep calling me mate, I know, and you know, that you dont have any of them, me included. Now for the umpteenth time (again), leave me alone. I kinda feel sorry for you, really, it must be very lonely being you, especially at this time of year. Oh I see you have sent me a private message. This is going to be interesting.
Simply bizarre. I thought Trump's twitter meltdowns were bad.
I have responded to your message. Lets leave it there.
delightful conversation, more mocking of the disabled.
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
Spot on. Unwavered and class every story as fake news or misreporting.
It's uncanny.
When you say 'story' what do you mean by that?
News report.
You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Right back at you, mate.
I'm not the one applying different rules depending on the political leaning of a politician, mate.
I honestly can't remember the last time I attacked a Conservative party politician on here. I'm happy to eat crow if you can point me toward prior logical inconsistencies. My game tends to be defensive in nature.
Maybe I should have said that you haven't defended all politicians with the same fervour as you have done here. Can't ever remember seeing people being told to contextualize anything against Theresa May or the Tories *spit*.
I could be wrong.
Bad wording by me. Apologies.
Equally, I don't see any politician hounded quite so vituperatively as Corbyn (and certainly not on one particular topic by one particular poster).
It's just that I could be arsed this time.
Go read the Tory thread
"1k new posts"
Aah fuck. See you after the next vote (either Brexit, Tory no confidence, or general election)!
Let the pile on, the excuses, the deflections and whataboutery begin.
Me, I'm off now
Shabbat Shalom
Dear oh dear! No proof that he is a friend of terrorists on an Anti Semite, just shit journalism from the press. As ever.
heaven forbid some one provides evidence! It's obviously all just "fake news". Corbyn cultists sounding like trump supporters more and more every day.
All you had provided in your lengthy post is examples of corbyn either being deeply unhelpful to the foreign office or just being a contrarian. He was a backbench opposition MP when much of his actions re the IRA were ongoing, it's a bit like an u21 sub beating the crystal palace manager at a game of pool and claiming he's helping.
Please remember this was years after the conflict ^
Lets also look at his opposition to military intervention in sierra leone, which saved democracy in the african nation and his other dismal and sickening opposition to humanitarian intervention:
As for anti semitism and, in his own words, a friend to terrorist who seek to kill every last jew they can find, here's him literally calling them a friend, you can see for yourself:
I suppose if you're mates with some one who literally wants to kill every last jew on the planet it totally clears you of any wrong doing? Here's also a good article by David Baddiel, who suffers anti semitic abuse on twitter almost daily from corbyn supporters:
I refuse to believe some one who has campaigned so passionately against racism can be so blind to the anti semitism in that mural.
But what you're also implying is that those that do not support corbyn are some what less of a human than those that do, which is an incredibly dangerous and worrying path to go down. Corbyn isn't the answer, neither are the tories. In short, we're fucked. But corbyn is just as bad as the tories.
A UN court said it wasn't genocide, it ruled it casulties from an assult in a civil war. How can he deny something that never happened? Genocide is incredibly hard to prove, so your argument is really with the UN court.
Before you raise the examples that happened, that motion is specifically about the 100,000 that were supposidly killed that was later reduced to 3000. That false evidence was used to justify a war, remind you of any other conflict? While the Balkan war may have been just, surely you must see the importance of evidence being true. I get you might not agree with his pacifist stance, I don't.
That motion says that the evidence used to start that conflict was fabricated, which the Spanish UN investigator concluded, it doeisn't deny genocide.
The irony of a Celtic supporter complaining about IRA symphony isn't lost on me. If an Election was called this month there will be a stage where the unelectable label will be dropped. Shame that most of the Labour voters are too busy working to reply to these comments but as lunch time is upon us this thread will quickly be sunk!
I'm a Charlton supporter, not a Celtic supporter. They are my Scottish club and have been since I was about 7, long before I knew what the IRA was. For the record I condemn the support for the IRA and the disrespect paid to the poppy by some Celtic fans.
Rather than putting up baseless slurs or waiting for the rest of the labour supporters to pile on why don't you put up some defence for Corbyn's long and well documented support for the IRA yourself @Friend Or Defoe
So when you grew up and understood the religious bigotry involved in your support, you carried on anyway. Never mind Ben, Corbyn is rumoured to be a closet Catholic as well.
Oh dear, so being having Celtic as a Scottish team makes you a bigot?
That will be all Celtic people too, all bigots according to you. Oh dear, oh dear.
Is that just Celtic fans, some of whom support Palistine but I guess you haven't really thought that through, if at all, or Rangers fans as well?
So so desperate to attack me that you show yourself up as someone with no grasp of reality.
There are thousands of Celtic supporters who are not religious bigots but few with your supposed sensibility to racist/religious predudices.
Or hatred of Corbyn.
I'm unable to see who flagged my post. I'd love to know who and why.
I think we can possibly narrow it down to two - and I have been told they may actually be the same person so it could only be one!
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You knew that, Seth. Stop playing games.
Of the 6 presented so far they are not very convincing for reasons I have stated. I have not classed anything as fake news or misreporting, but engaged with those reports as they appear and taken them at face value. However when considering them I have concluded so far that they have very little value, not that they are fake news or misreporting.
Been here from the start of the thread and read it all.
I was just sitting here writing the word 'nuance' over and over again, predicting your reply. Bang, there it was. The chances, eh?
It's always a different set of rules when the tables are turned.
The logic still applies, regardless of how much contextualising and nuancing you throw in the way.
Warm hugs.
Lets leave it there.
edit: not any more, the thumbnail didn't work. (It did say "nuance" but you could only see "uanc")
I could be wrong.
Bad wording by me. Apologies.
It's just that I could be arsed this time.
Now, if you want to start a thread on Thatcher just watch me go!!!
"A kinder, gentler politics".
Totally not a troll though.
Aah fuck. See you after the next vote (either Brexit, Tory no confidence, or general election)!
Before you raise the examples that happened, that motion is specifically about the 100,000 that were supposidly killed that was later reduced to 3000. That false evidence was used to justify a war, remind you of any other conflict? While the Balkan war may have been just, surely you must see the importance of evidence being true. I get you might not agree with his pacifist stance, I don't.
That motion says that the evidence used to start that conflict was fabricated, which the Spanish UN investigator concluded, it doeisn't deny genocide.
We'll have our corbyn thread one day, comrades.