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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    It would be sensible practice for Arsenal to loan him to a Championship club as he's taking a big jump from only having ever played League One football to the Premier League - think the main permanent move option for him would be to go to the Bundesliga
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,981
    I understand Bielik's point, he could probably get into a starting XI in the lower Bundesliga and increase his wages.

    However, if Arsenal didn't wanna sell and from his interview after the playoff final on our squad harmony, i don't think it would take too much encouragement for him to come back.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    plus there is the draw of living in London still
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    palarsehater said:
    plus there is the draw of living in London still
    Living in Germany is quite a draw too.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    palarsehater said:
    plus there is the draw of living in London still
    Living in Germany is quite a draw too.
    i meant if staying in england and going to a champ club that london is a bit better to live than say Birmingham 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Bielik could be going to AC Milan

    https://arseblog.news/2019/07/bielik-linked-with-ac-milan-as-reports-say-emery-has-no-role-for-him/
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    How can Williams get a pay cut by joining us when he is currently out of contract? 

    Literally no sense it makes?


  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Dazzler21 said:
    How can Williams get a pay cut by joining us when he is currently out of contract? 

    Literally no sense it makes?


    a reduction on what he was earning before.

    Players released usually get an extra month so he could well still be being paid for July at whatever rate he was on before.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Bielik won’t be back. I can’t see Arsenal playing him and their budget isn’t the best so they will cash in. 

    His future at Arsenal ended when they signed the young French lad last year. 
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2019
    Henry Irving said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    How can Williams get a pay cut by joining us when he is currently out of contract? 

    Literally no sense it makes?


    a reduction on what he was earning before.

    Players released usually get an extra month so he could well still be being paid for July at whatever rate he was on before.
     Was he released? Or did his contract expire? Aren't they seen as different?

    Release = Released from the terms of your contract, usually mutually agreed and therefore club can choose to pay you a bit after the release. 
    Expire = Contract Ends, club does not owe you a thing? 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Dazzler21 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    How can Williams get a pay cut by joining us when he is currently out of contract? 

    Literally no sense it makes?


    a reduction on what he was earning before.

    Players released usually get an extra month so he could well still be being paid for July at whatever rate he was on before.
     Was he released? Or did his contract expire? Aren't they seen as different?

    Release = Released from the terms of your contract, usually mutually agreed and therefore club can choose to pay you a bit after the release. 
    Expire = Contract Ends, club does not owe you a thing? 
    You are correct, it expired.

    Players who's contracts have expired will still usually get the extra month. ie Reeves.  Might be different for Williams as it was a short term deal, i don't know.
  • Imnot Athletic
    Imnot Athletic Posts: 1,017
    So is Williams working his notice :wink:
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Henry Irving said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    How can Williams get a pay cut by joining us when he is currently out of contract? 

    Literally no sense it makes?


    a reduction on what he was earning before.

    Players released usually get an extra month so he could well still be being paid for July at whatever rate he was on before.
     Was he released? Or did his contract expire? Aren't they seen as different?

    Release = Released from the terms of your contract, usually mutually agreed and therefore club can choose to pay you a bit after the release. 
    Expire = Contract Ends, club does not owe you a thing? 
    You are correct, it expired.

    Players who's contracts have expired will still usually get the extra month. ie Reeves.  Might be different for Williams as it was a short term deal, i don't know.
    Williams was on the "released" list wasn't he?  With a note saying they left the door open?

    The only out of contract players that weren't "released" where Aribo, BFG and Fosu.

    All the released players would, or should, have received the extra month. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Imnot Athletic said:
    So is Williams working his notice :wink:
    He's on gardening leave.
    I saw him mowing one of the pitches at Sparrow's Lane this morning.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    How can Williams get a pay cut by joining us when he is currently out of contract? 

    Literally no sense it makes?


    a reduction on what he was earning before.

    Players released usually get an extra month so he could well still be being paid for July at whatever rate he was on before.
     Was he released? Or did his contract expire? Aren't they seen as different?

    Release = Released from the terms of your contract, usually mutually agreed and therefore club can choose to pay you a bit after the release. 
    Expire = Contract Ends, club does not owe you a thing? 
    You are correct, it expired.

    Players who's contracts have expired will still usually get the extra month. ie Reeves.  Might be different for Williams as it was a short term deal, i don't know.
    Williams was on the "released" list wasn't he?  With a note saying they left the door open?

    The only out of contract players that weren't "released" where Aribo, BFG and Fosu.

    All the released players would, or should, have received the extra month. 
    Correct

    To be precise

    Their contract has expired, they have been released from their registration.

    Fosu and Aribo both had expired contracts but we didn't release their registrations hence we were able to get (very little) money for them.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    If I was Emery i'd be picking Bielik all day over Guendouzi. Painfully average footballer
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Fair enough.
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
    It's a bit disingenuous to say that JA was 'running down his contract' when the one he was offered was quickly whipped away from him....... 
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  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Imnot Athletic said:
    So is Williams working his notice :wink:
    I think when the additional 6/7 signings don't all materialise JW will get a decent 11th hour offer.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
    Intresting thing to say publicly, what's he going to do if they don't agree terms? Put him on the list like Peterborough do? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,847
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
    Interesting comment about Djiksteel. Also that Baldock would be a loan 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Pelling1993 said:
    If I was Emery i'd be picking Bielik all day over Guendouzi. Painfully average footballer
    He’s not long turned 20 and has plenty of top flight experience. Bielik was a class above last season but 2 divisions lower. 

  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    palarsehater said:
    cawley just tweeted that bowyer hoping for bielek back on loan and arsenal have confirmed that we would be there choice

    on the subject of arsenal nekitah was seen at wireless festival at the weekend and was asked by a young fan to come to charlton he laughed and said " na man "
    F*** him then.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
    Sign a new Contract or you go back to the reserves as we'll just put Solly back as first choice is what he's saying there to me
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    SuedeAdidas said:
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
    It's a bit disingenuous to say that JA was 'running down his contract' when the one he was offered was quickly whipped away from him....... 
    Yeah it was definitely that simple. 

    I understood it to be Aribo's agent wasn't happy with the offer so the contract was spitefully withdrawn and a worse one put in its place. It was apparently a decent offer.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Dazzler21 said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
    It's a bit disingenuous to say that JA was 'running down his contract' when the one he was offered was quickly whipped away from him....... 
    Yeah it was definitely that simple. 

    I understood it to be Aribo's agent wasn't happy with the offer so the contract was spitefully withdrawn and a worse one put in its place. It was apparently a decent offer.
    If thats true then I quite like that as a two fingers approach to the Agent

    Of course its frustrating as we came off worse in the sense that we dont have the player now but still makes me smile to think of the Agent's reaction when he basically got a f**k you from Roland
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    jac52 said:
    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-bowyer-on-contract-talks-with-lyle-taylor-anfernee-dijksteel-and-jason-pearce/

    Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.

    “I’ve told his agent: ‘Either come in and sign or things will be slightly different’.”

    is that a threat?


  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Heard that Bow has agreed Beilik loan with Arsenal, but the player wants to stay and get a first team place. 
    It could drag on to end of August. 

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