I reckon Beliek wont sign for anyone before August 9th & then by the end of that month, after he realises (or Emery tells him) that he is surplus to requirements he will sign for a foreign team.
Dijksteel IMO is thee most underrated in the whole squad. How he splits opinion goes way over my head he’s a very modern attacking full back who I think will reach the PL one day no doubt. We should do whatever it takes to get another contract signed.
I've got no issues with Bowyers comments, either you play for us and be grateful for the chance or you stay on the reserves and someone else can play.
What's the point in playing a player who is clearly on the move when there is always someone out there who can play instead. Sign or sell, no problems
So by your logic Bowyer should have dropped Aribo last season.
But then Dijksteel doesnt hold the cards that Aribo held
Managers / Clubs need to stand up to Agents, sadly this is the only way that it tends to work
If you had a proper structure running the club you could have a proper policy.
Something a long the lines that any 1st choice player, under 30, must have 2 years on their contract at the start of the season. You don't sign, your on the list and you don't play. If they did that last summer BFG would have been sold, Grant and Aribo probably would have signed contracts. So would have the Sunderland player who's name escapes me.
It's not the solution and would need some proper thinking about but more the start of an idea.
Reading striker Sam Baldock will not take a pay cut if he is to leave the club this summer, it is understood.
The 30-year-old ex-Premier League forward was among a group of first-team players told their time at Madejski Stadium was over by manager Jose Gomes.
He is the only member of the group involved in the club’s pre-season and newly-promoted Charlton Athletic showed interest in signing him.
However, the Chronicle understands Baldock told Reading FC he will not leave unless his wages are paid in full, casting serious doubts over a potential move to The Valley.
Baldock, who has two years remaining on his contract, was among a number of players handed significant salary packages while former chief executive Ron Gourlay was at the helm of the club. Royals eased their financial problems yesterday (Monday) when they sold Liam Kelly to former boss Jaap Stam’s Feyenoord in a cut-price deal.
Gomes wants to sign up to four players this summer and remains keen on bringing Liverpool’s Ovie Ejaria back to Berkshire on loan.
The Portuguese has urged the exiled squad members and their agents to secure moves as soon as possible.
Suspect that if he won't entertain a pay cut (you can't blame him) then maybe we get him on loan and agree to pay a % of his wages. Sounds like Reading might be happy with that, financially. And, subject to a successful loan spell and a potential takeover, we make him a permanent offer at a later date.
Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
“I’ve told his agent: ‘Either come in and sign or things will be slightly different’.”
is that a threat?
Bow's obviously frustrated with the shambles created by the owner after all.
Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
“I’ve told his agent: ‘Either come in and sign or things will be slightly different’.”
is that a threat?
Bow's obviously frustrated with the shambles created by the owner after all.
Almost equivalent to the shambles the FA have created by closing the English window on 8th August while the European (World?) window remains open until 31st. It almost certainly means that Bielik will go abroad, and ditto any decent loans. We will only get to choose from "those requiring experience" ie untried.
someone i work with bumped into Josh Magennis on a night out in Manchester last friday and he said Otzumer is coming to us?? I'd been a bit skeptical considering we all thought this would be announced on the 1st but hopefully some truth and we get Otzumer & Williams
I've got no issues with Bowyers comments, either you play for us and be grateful for the chance or you stay on the reserves and someone else can play.
What's the point in playing a player who is clearly on the move when there is always someone out there who can play instead. Sign or sell, no problems
So by your logic Bowyer should have dropped Aribo last season.
In all honesty yes. It's my view but I seriously hate player power. Players should feel privileged to play for big clubs and lead a luxury line of work. Players not working with the clubs that gave them a platform does my head in. Just look at the Neymar situation at PSG and Pogba at Man U. Players who act up like that should be sold. If I owned a club I would transfer list any player who was running down their contract, bring in a player who wants to play for the shirt and the fans.
The Aribo situation was different though, we are desperate and have a shite owner. If we were a stable club and players agents were trying to stiff us I would be getting rid.
But yes, hot shots with their dodgy agents would be getting moved on as quick as possible
Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
It's a bit disingenuous to say that JA was 'running down his contract' when the one he was offered was quickly whipped away from him.......
Yeah it was definitely that simple.
I understood it to be Aribo's agent wasn't happy with the offer so the contract was spitefully withdrawn and a worse one put in its place. It was apparently a decent offer.
If thats true then I quite like that as a two fingers approach to the Agent
Of course its frustrating as we came off worse in the sense that we dont have the player now but still makes me smile to think of the Agent's reaction when he basically got a f**k you from Roland
Not sure what it achieved taking it off the table and replacing it with a poorer one! If you want the player to sign, surely you don't mess around with silly gestures.
cawley just tweeted that bowyer hoping for bielek back on loan and arsenal have confirmed that we would be there choice
on the subject of arsenal nekitah was seen at wireless festival at the weekend and was asked by a young fan to come to charlton he laughed and said " na man "
Lee Bowyer wants Anfernee Dijksteel to sign a new contract – and has vowed there will be no other young players running down their terms at Charlton Athletic.
“I’ve told his agent: ‘Either come in and sign or things will be slightly different’.”
is that a threat?
When his manager days are done, Bowyer will make an awesome technical director.
I bumped into Bellerin in Haggerston and asked him if he knew of anyone from Arsenal coming to Charlton on loan, he said he can’t say but said that Charlton is always spoke about well at Arsenal and everyone who has been on loan at us always comes back better!
Not anything we didn’t already know but good to know we are held in high regard even by there first team players
Baldock is a loan deal apparently, so he won’t need a pay cut. That’s according to Cawley Not sure why he didn’t play much last year, but if you base his goals by his starts it’s 1 in 3 id have him as an option.
As rumours go we know we are interested in Baldock on loan, Bielik on loan, Cullen on loan. We know we are interested in bringing in Williams on a permanent deal. We also know Bowyer has said he wants a minimum of 6 players before the window shuts but hopes to get 7 more through the door.
Bowyer and Gallen will get in players, whether that’s what we need or the amount that we need, we are yet to see. But I am confident in their abilities and we should credit them for their work and patience in what is extremely difficult times, in an extremely competitive league, where the gap is huge between the clubs relegated from the Premier League, and ones promoted or struggling down near the bottom.
Bowyer may WANT 6 players... but that is not the same as GETTING 6 players. Was it just last year (with Bowyer/Gallen) in the season we did not even have enough players to hold practice? Lee may want 6, but in the end Rat, not Bowyer nor Steve, decides whether we actually GET them. And, of course, I don't trust Rat to ever do the right thing. I'll believe it when I see it and not one second before.
Anfernee wants to play for Charlton in the Champ next season, just hope he gets a decent pay rise, he's earning peanuts atm. Thanks @Henry Irving. @Braziliance, I pass on what I hear, for example we made a contract offer to Josh Morris, it was 1500 a week less than Fleetwood offered. I said Bowyer liked and wanted to sign him, I didn't say he was signing for us.
Anfernee wants to play for Charlton in the Champ next season, just hope he gets a decent pay rise, he's earning peanuts atm. Thanks @Henry Irving. @Braziliance, I pass on what I hear, for example we made a contract offer to Josh Morris, it was 1500 a week less than Fleetwood offered. I said Bowyer liked and wanted to sign him, I didn't say he was signing for us.
@Redhenry do you think Fleetwood outbid us on wages for Morris because they wanted him in the first team? Would Bowyer have seen Morris as a first team player or a squad player? Just wondering if you feel the 1500 a week less would be because he wouldn't be a guaranteed first team player with us maybe? Or maybe he wanted to stay up north? I'd be surprised if we can't compete with Fleetwood for wages so interested if you have any further insight.
Anfernee wants to play for Charlton in the Champ next season, just hope he gets a decent pay rise, he's earning peanuts atm. Thanks @Henry Irving. @Braziliance, I pass on what I hear, for example we made a contract offer to Josh Morris, it was 1500 a week less than Fleetwood offered. I said Bowyer liked and wanted to sign him, I didn't say he was signing for us.
@Redhenry do you think Fleetwood outbid us on wages for Morris because they wanted him in the first team? Would Bowyer have seen Morris as a first team player or a squad player? Just wondering if you feel the 1500 a week less would be because he wouldn't be a guaranteed first team player with us maybe? Or maybe he wanted to stay up north? I'd be surprised if we can't compete with Fleetwood for wages so interested if you have any further insight.
I’m not surprised we can’t compete with Fleetwood on wages. We have already been told by Bowyer that we have the lowest budget in the Championship.
Our wages this coming year are best estimated at £10-12M. Reading is a mid-wage club last year in the Championship and look at what they pay. Peanuts does not even begin to describe our situation.
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What's the point in playing a player who is clearly on the move when there is always someone out there who can play instead. Sign or sell, no problems
Managers / Clubs need to stand up to Agents, sadly this is the only way that it tends to work
Something a long the lines that any 1st choice player, under 30, must have 2 years on their contract at the start of the season. You don't sign, your on the list and you don't play. If they did that last summer BFG would have been sold, Grant and Aribo probably would have signed contracts. So would have the Sunderland player who's name escapes me.
It's not the solution and would need some proper thinking about but more the start of an idea.
The Aribo situation was different though, we are desperate and have a shite owner. If we were a stable club and players agents were trying to stiff us I would be getting rid.
But yes, hot shots with their dodgy agents would be getting moved on as quick as possible
Roland is the enemy
Not anything we didn’t already know but good to know we are held in high regard even by there first team players
Alo alo
Not sure why he didn’t play much last year, but if you base his goals by his starts it’s 1 in 3
id have him as an option.
As rumours go we know we are interested in Baldock on loan, Bielik on loan, Cullen on loan. We know we are interested in bringing in Williams on a permanent deal. We also know Bowyer has said he wants a minimum of 6 players before the window shuts but hopes to get 7 more through the door.
Bowyer and Gallen will get in players, whether that’s what we need or the amount that we need, we are yet to see. But I am confident in their abilities and we should credit them for their work and patience in what is extremely difficult times, in an extremely competitive league, where the gap is huge between the clubs relegated from the Premier League, and ones promoted or struggling down near the bottom.
Spanners out spending us on proven championship players.
Thanks @Henry Irving. @Braziliance, I pass on what I hear, for example we made a contract offer to Josh Morris, it was 1500 a week less than Fleetwood offered. I said Bowyer liked and wanted to sign him, I didn't say he was signing for us.