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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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So when is oztumer signing then ???0
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Imagine this has been dragged out what with the mess Bolton are inFAVADDICK said:So when is oztumer signing then ???
Dont forget RedHenry has basically confirmed it which means its set in stone2 -
Yeah I see that people mentioned him but not as rumour, come out of nowhere it seems.covered end junior said:He’s been mentioned but more as a suggestion rather than an actual rumour.0 -
I'd completed forgot about Richards. Might be something to do with the fact that he hasn't kicked a football in anger for over 3 years. By all accounts at £35K per week.CAFCsayer said:Mile Jedinak, Alan Hutton, Tommy Elphick, Albert Adomah, Ritchie De Laet, Mark Bunn and Micah Richards been released by Villa... Some good players there0 -
Always the best type of signing...BR7_addick said:
Yeah I see that people mentioned him but not as rumour, come out of nowhere it seems.covered end junior said:He’s been mentioned but more as a suggestion rather than an actual rumour.
Transfers have become a bit boring these days as you normally know about it days / weeks in advance
Ones like this that still come out of no where remind me of the good old days of ceefax etc.11 -
I blame Cawley. With him on holiday the quality of the rumours has plummeted!BR7_addick said:How’s Oshilaja signed for us without even so much of a murmur of a rumour in this thread, useless the lot of ya.6 -
How dare Cawley l take a break from pestering addicks on twitter at this time.2
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Speaking of Twitter ITK’s, absolutely cracking up if you search Oshilaja on twitter there’s Luton fans saying things like “yeah mate I can confirm he’s traveled with squad for trials, my sources confirmed today” LOL!10
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Good callroseandcrown said:
Could that be oshilaja from dons?blackpool72 said:
Thisobjectivecafc said:Really need a no nonsense centre half as well0 -
Top sleuthing Rosie, I don't care what Elfs says about youroseandcrown said:
Could that be oshilaja from dons?blackpool72 said:
Thisobjectivecafc said:Really need a no nonsense centre half as well
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Is this the 3rd player from Gallen's 'block of 4'?1
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Most likely with Oztumer being the fourth I'd have thoughtmoutuakilla said:Is this the 3rd player from Gallen's 'block of 4'?4 -
Oztumer announced this week my guess then it’s the wait for the loans, DM, CM and ST.0
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So after playing for Luton the other day in a friendly he signs for Cafc without a squeak and its announced on a Monday evening.CafcSCP said:Oshilaja has signed
Oztumer has signed for Cafc said the ITK but not a whisper on the official site.
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I'd imagine it's a bit more complicated given his contract position at Bolton.soapboxsam said:
So after playing for Luton the other day in a friendly he signs for Cafc without a squeak and its announced on a Monday evening.CafcSCP said:Oshilaja has signed
Oztumer has signed for Cafc said the ITK but not a whisper on the official site.
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Wonder how long they were working on Oshilaja for. Perhaps didn’t expect him to chose us while being on trial with Luton. Last Tuesday Bowyer said:
"So, we need to get our priorities right which is a striker next, and that’s the one we’re going to be pushing for, and a midfielder to join him and then we will re-evaluate"
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5d2ddf1e869cf/bowyer-on-the-return-of-ben-amos-and-targeting-a-striker
After that we signed a midfielder in Williams, a defender in Oshilaja, Oztumer has apparently signed (another midfielder) and we’ve been linked with Gallagher (another midfielder).
Could the striker be the other young Arsenal player mentioned, Nelson?0 -
Nelson won’t be joining us, did well in the Bundesliga.Scoham said:Wonder how long they were working on Oshilaja for. Perhaps didn’t expect him to chose us while being on trial with Luton. Last Tuesday Bowyer said:
"So, we need to get our priorities right which is a striker next, and that’s the one we’re going to be pushing for, and a midfielder to join him and then we will re-evaluate"
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5d2ddf1e869cf/bowyer-on-the-return-of-ben-amos-and-targeting-a-striker
After that we signed a midfielder in Williams, a defender in Oshilaja, Oztumer has apparently signed (another midfielder) and we’ve been linked with Gallagher (another midfielder).
Could the striker be the other young Arsenal player mentioned, Nelson?2 -
In terms of pre season matches, it's strikers we really need! Playing Villa on Saturday we've bags of options for the back 4 (or 3 or 5) but bugger all up top0
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If we got Nelson I will be down the bookies, emptying my account for promotion.5
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Fair enough, didn’t realise. More likely to be someone lacking any first team experience.cafcfan1990 said:
Nelson won’t be joining us, did well in the Bundesliga.Scoham said:Wonder how long they were working on Oshilaja for. Perhaps didn’t expect him to chose us while being on trial with Luton. Last Tuesday Bowyer said:
"So, we need to get our priorities right which is a striker next, and that’s the one we’re going to be pushing for, and a midfielder to join him and then we will re-evaluate"
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5d2ddf1e869cf/bowyer-on-the-return-of-ben-amos-and-targeting-a-striker
After that we signed a midfielder in Williams, a defender in Oshilaja, Oztumer has apparently signed (another midfielder) and we’ve been linked with Gallagher (another midfielder).
Could the striker be the other young Arsenal player mentioned, Nelson?
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Fairly sure Nelson will play a big part for Arsenal this year, fantastic player1
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Sid James Fan Club said:
Yes he is a very good player, and one who I think will be wanted by quite a few clubs, but this is where the loan market is a farce..... the manager is saying Albie Morgan has to go out on loan to learn and meanwhile Charlton are rumoured to take a player with even less experience just because he’s from Chelsea. They play very similar positions so why develop someone else’s player with zero benefit? #limit the loans!Garrymanilow said:Gallagher would be an excellent signing. He's come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, so hopefully this season will be the one where he show's he can hack it in men's football. He's not got much experience but if played alongside midfielders who can coach him through the game we might get a lot out of himBut it's not zero benefit is it? Albie has a lot to work on and Bowyer evidently feels the Championship isn't the place for him to do it. I would agree; last season Albie started games well and then faded completely out of them by half time. He would be better off getting a loan to L1 or L2 and playing every week as opposed to being dominated in the Championship. If you throw a player in at the wrong level too soon you can kill their confidence. Just look at how long it took Grant to start to look like the player he could be, and it look a L2 loan for him to build that confidence up. Conversely Gallagher is a big strong player who was academy player of the season for a Chelsea team who regularly sweep up in the youth league. These are two players at different stages of development and talent, and the benefit we would get would be having a quality player help us survive in a league that we are currently ill-equipped for.The loan market isn't a farce, it's literally our only hope of survival with our budget. Teams will lend us their high-potential players for free or a portion of their wages in the hopes that our excellent coaching set-up will benefit them. We're definitely not signing another five players permanently so clever use of the loan market is essential. If they limit the loans we're nutsacked.22 -
Its probably unlikely we'd get him but i wouldn't rule it out purely on bundesliga grounds. Tammy Abraham did a year in the premier League and still dropped down to the championship to play.Scoham said:
Fair enough, didn’t realise. More likely to be someone lacking any first team experience.cafcfan1990 said:
Nelson won’t be joining us, did well in the Bundesliga.Scoham said:Wonder how long they were working on Oshilaja for. Perhaps didn’t expect him to chose us while being on trial with Luton. Last Tuesday Bowyer said:
"So, we need to get our priorities right which is a striker next, and that’s the one we’re going to be pushing for, and a midfielder to join him and then we will re-evaluate"
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5d2ddf1e869cf/bowyer-on-the-return-of-ben-amos-and-targeting-a-striker
After that we signed a midfielder in Williams, a defender in Oshilaja, Oztumer has apparently signed (another midfielder) and we’ve been linked with Gallagher (another midfielder).
Could the striker be the other young Arsenal player mentioned, Nelson?
Dunno if he was injured last season but he only played 19 games on loan so a full season at championship level isn't a terrible option at his age. Unless they flog him to palace to get zaha that is.0 -
Well put - gallagher right now is a better option for us than Albie. Albie never played for EnglandGarrymanilow said:Sid James Fan Club said:
Yes he is a very good player, and one who I think will be wanted by quite a few clubs, but this is where the loan market is a farce..... the manager is saying Albie Morgan has to go out on loan to learn and meanwhile Charlton are rumoured to take a player with even less experience just because he’s from Chelsea. They play very similar positions so why develop someone else’s player with zero benefit? #limit the loans!Garrymanilow said:Gallagher would be an excellent signing. He's come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, so hopefully this season will be the one where he show's he can hack it in men's football. He's not got much experience but if played alongside midfielders who can coach him through the game we might get a lot out of himBut it's not zero benefit is it? Albie has a lot to work on and Bowyer evidently feels the Championship isn't the place for him to do it. I would agree; last season Albie started games well and then faded completely out of them by half time. He would be better off getting a loan to L1 or L2 and playing every week as opposed to being dominated in the Championship. If you throw a player in at the wrong level too soon you can kill their confidence. Just look at how long it took Grant to start to look like the player he could be, and it look a L2 loan for him to build that confidence up. Conversely Gallagher is a big strong player who was academy player of the season for a Chelsea team who regularly sweep up in the youth league. These are two players at different stages of development and talent, and the benefit we would get would be having a quality player help us survive in a league that we are currently ill-equipped for.The loan market isn't a farce, it's literally our only hope of survival with our budget. Teams will lend us their high-potential players for free or a portion of their wages in the hopes that our excellent coaching set-up will benefit them. We're definitely not signing another five players permanently so clever use of the loan market is essential. If they limit the loans we're nutsacked.3 -
Your missing my point on what the loan system is being exploited for.Garrymanilow said:Sid James Fan Club said:
Yes he is a very good player, and one who I think will be wanted by quite a few clubs, but this is where the loan market is a farce..... the manager is saying Albie Morgan has to go out on loan to learn and meanwhile Charlton are rumoured to take a player with even less experience just because he’s from Chelsea. They play very similar positions so why develop someone else’s player with zero benefit? #limit the loans!Garrymanilow said:Gallagher would be an excellent signing. He's come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, so hopefully this season will be the one where he show's he can hack it in men's football. He's not got much experience but if played alongside midfielders who can coach him through the game we might get a lot out of himBut it's not zero benefit is it? Albie has a lot to work on and Bowyer evidently feels the Championship isn't the place for him to do it. I would agree; last season Albie started games well and then faded completely out of them by half time. He would be better off getting a loan to L1 or L2 and playing every week as opposed to being dominated in the Championship. If you throw a player in at the wrong level too soon you can kill their confidence. Just look at how long it took Grant to start to look like the player he could be, and it look a L2 loan for him to build that confidence up. Conversely Gallagher is a big strong player who was academy player of the season for a Chelsea team who regularly sweep up in the youth league. These are two players at different stages of development and talent, and the benefit we would get would be having a quality player help us survive in a league that we are currently ill-equipped for.The loan market isn't a farce, it's literally our only hope of survival with our budget. Teams will lend us their high-potential players for free or a portion of their wages in the hopes that our excellent coaching set-up will benefit them. We're definitely not signing another five players permanently so clever use of the loan market is essential. If they limit the loans we're nutsacked.
Have you watched U23 games? They are nothing like first team games. Gallagher also a lot to work on, he has never played a first team game and your now saying is a player Charlton should bring in? Based on what? His first team experience? Have you seen Dempsey or Wiredu both of these players have played and beat him on regular occasions. Your blinded by the fact he plays for Chelsea. He can’t even get in the first team pre season squad. He is one of 40 plus players Chelsea want to farm out and sell to the highest bidder. Chelsea may well regularly seeep up youth leagues, that’s because they sweep up every player in sight for ££££.. Your absolutely right to say they are at different stages in their development only you have them round the wrong way, Albie Morgan has far more experience and it would not be a suprise to see him stay. I have no doubt Gallagher will be a very good player but so will Dempsey Morgan and Wiredu.It’s even more odd that your argument on loans is that you think bringing in another 19 year old with no first team experience will make Charlton better equipped.
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But Morgan is in our youth setup and Gallagher is in Chelsea's, and chances are he's in Chelsea's because he's a better player or has a higher ceiling than Morgan potential wise. May not be the case, but he's been a part of England youth sides and was voted best Chelsea academy player for a reason. He's also been selected for a couple of first team squads for Chelsea so he's not a million miles from appearing for them.
IMO Morgan needs a loan out to League 1 flesh out his game, and Gallagher needs to show he's ready for senior football, and we need midfielders that are able to play box to box better than Morgan currently does, and it seems Gallen and Bowyer believe the same3 -
Morgan is actually already in the first team set up, Gallagher better ability wise?No he’s not, (in my humble opinion). So he got a player award in the academy? What Championship or league games has he played? He was part of England youth sides because if you look that’s pretty much all they select, or those in cat 1 clubs.sam3110 said:But Morgan is in our youth setup and Gallagher is in Chelsea's, and chances are he's in Chelsea's because he's a better player or has a higher ceiling than Morgan potential wise. May not be the case, but he's been a part of England youth sides and was voted best Chelsea academy player for a reason. He's also been selected for a couple of first team squads for Chelsea so he's not a million miles from appearing for them.
IMO Morgan needs a loan out to League 1 flesh out his game, and Gallagher needs to show he's ready for senior football, and we need midfielders that are able to play box to box better than Morgan currently does, and it seems Gallen and Bowyer believe the same
Anyhow I go back to my point that this is why loans are flawed when you simply keep letting Premier League clubs dictate the market with a saturation of player loans they have no intention of keeping. Let Gallagher show he’s ready for senior football in Chelsea........ oh hang on they don’t do that, they let other clubs do it for them......
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Except he started Lampard's first game against Bohemians. He has a lot of developing to do sure; if he was getting into Chelsea's actual first team then he would be completely out of our reach. I am very much not blinded by the fact he plays for Chelsea. I think you might be though. You've said yourself that Chelsea hoover up the best talent going at youth level, and Gallagher was still their player of the year. Gallagher is an England youth international you has won the u17 World Cup and the English youth league. Albie played 8 games in L1, and if we're being really honest he only played as much as he did because our squad depth was so limited, and now Bowyer, an exceptional judge of a player, thinks he needs a loan at a lower level to develop. I can see that you're very fixated on our own academy players, which is not a terrible thing, but you are kidding yourself if you think Albie is ahead of Gallagher because he played a couple of games against Gillingham and Rochdale. I like Albie, but I'll trust Bowyer's judgment on his developmentSid James Fan Club said:
Your missing my point on what the loan system is being exploited for.Garrymanilow said:Sid James Fan Club said:
Yes he is a very good player, and one who I think will be wanted by quite a few clubs, but this is where the loan market is a farce..... the manager is saying Albie Morgan has to go out on loan to learn and meanwhile Charlton are rumoured to take a player with even less experience just because he’s from Chelsea. They play very similar positions so why develop someone else’s player with zero benefit? #limit the loans!Garrymanilow said:Gallagher would be an excellent signing. He's come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, so hopefully this season will be the one where he show's he can hack it in men's football. He's not got much experience but if played alongside midfielders who can coach him through the game we might get a lot out of himBut it's not zero benefit is it? Albie has a lot to work on and Bowyer evidently feels the Championship isn't the place for him to do it. I would agree; last season Albie started games well and then faded completely out of them by half time. He would be better off getting a loan to L1 or L2 and playing every week as opposed to being dominated in the Championship. If you throw a player in at the wrong level too soon you can kill their confidence. Just look at how long it took Grant to start to look like the player he could be, and it look a L2 loan for him to build that confidence up. Conversely Gallagher is a big strong player who was academy player of the season for a Chelsea team who regularly sweep up in the youth league. These are two players at different stages of development and talent, and the benefit we would get would be having a quality player help us survive in a league that we are currently ill-equipped for.The loan market isn't a farce, it's literally our only hope of survival with our budget. Teams will lend us their high-potential players for free or a portion of their wages in the hopes that our excellent coaching set-up will benefit them. We're definitely not signing another five players permanently so clever use of the loan market is essential. If they limit the loans we're nutsacked.
Have you watched U23 games? They are nothing like first team games. Gallagher also a lot to work on, he has never played a first team game and your now saying is a player Charlton should bring in? Based on what? His first team experience? Have you seen Dempsey or Wiredu both of these players have played and beat him on regular occasions. Your blinded by the fact he plays for Chelsea. He can’t even get in the first team pre season squad. He is one of 40 plus players Chelsea want to farm out and sell to the highest bidder. Chelsea may well regularly seeep up youth leagues, that’s because they sweep up every player in sight for ££££.. Your absolutely right to say they are at different stages in their development only you have them round the wrong way, Albie Morgan has far more experience and it would not be a suprise to see him stay. I have no doubt Gallagher will be a very good player but so will Dempsey Morgan and Wiredu.It’s even more odd that your argument on loans is that you think bringing in another 19 year old with no first team experience will make Charlton better equipped.
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Not blinded just stating what I’ve seen , I have over the years been able to watch all these players develop , so no I’m not kidding myself. I’m also pointing out by Bowyers own point he needs players with experience in the championship ....Garrymanilow said:
Except he started Lampard's first game against Bohemians. He has a lot of developing to do sure; if he was getting into Chelsea's actual first team then he would be completely out of our reach. I am very much not blinded by the fact he plays for Chelsea. I think you might be though. You've said yourself that Chelsea hoover up the best talent going at youth level, and Gallagher was still their player of the year. Gallagher is an England youth international you has won the u17 World Cup and the English youth league. Albie played 8 games in L1, and if we're being really honest he only played as much as he did because our squad depth was so limited, and now Bowyer, an exceptional judge of a player, thinks he needs a loan at a lower level to develop. I can see that you're very fixated on our own academy players, which is not a terrible thing, but you are kidding yourself if you think Albie is ahead of Gallagher because he played a couple of games against Gillingham and Rochdale. I like Albie, but I'll trust Bowyer's judgment on his developmentSid James Fan Club said:
Your missing my point on what the loan system is being exploited for.Garrymanilow said:Sid James Fan Club said:
Yes he is a very good player, and one who I think will be wanted by quite a few clubs, but this is where the loan market is a farce..... the manager is saying Albie Morgan has to go out on loan to learn and meanwhile Charlton are rumoured to take a player with even less experience just because he’s from Chelsea. They play very similar positions so why develop someone else’s player with zero benefit? #limit the loans!Garrymanilow said:Gallagher would be an excellent signing. He's come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, so hopefully this season will be the one where he show's he can hack it in men's football. He's not got much experience but if played alongside midfielders who can coach him through the game we might get a lot out of himBut it's not zero benefit is it? Albie has a lot to work on and Bowyer evidently feels the Championship isn't the place for him to do it. I would agree; last season Albie started games well and then faded completely out of them by half time. He would be better off getting a loan to L1 or L2 and playing every week as opposed to being dominated in the Championship. If you throw a player in at the wrong level too soon you can kill their confidence. Just look at how long it took Grant to start to look like the player he could be, and it look a L2 loan for him to build that confidence up. Conversely Gallagher is a big strong player who was academy player of the season for a Chelsea team who regularly sweep up in the youth league. These are two players at different stages of development and talent, and the benefit we would get would be having a quality player help us survive in a league that we are currently ill-equipped for.The loan market isn't a farce, it's literally our only hope of survival with our budget. Teams will lend us their high-potential players for free or a portion of their wages in the hopes that our excellent coaching set-up will benefit them. We're definitely not signing another five players permanently so clever use of the loan market is essential. If they limit the loans we're nutsacked.
Have you watched U23 games? They are nothing like first team games. Gallagher also a lot to work on, he has never played a first team game and your now saying is a player Charlton should bring in? Based on what? His first team experience? Have you seen Dempsey or Wiredu both of these players have played and beat him on regular occasions. Your blinded by the fact he plays for Chelsea. He can’t even get in the first team pre season squad. He is one of 40 plus players Chelsea want to farm out and sell to the highest bidder. Chelsea may well regularly seeep up youth leagues, that’s because they sweep up every player in sight for ££££.. Your absolutely right to say they are at different stages in their development only you have them round the wrong way, Albie Morgan has far more experience and it would not be a suprise to see him stay. I have no doubt Gallagher will be a very good player but so will Dempsey Morgan and Wiredu.It’s even more odd that your argument on loans is that you think bringing in another 19 year old with no first team experience will make Charlton better equipped.
You equally seem to think Gallagher because he plays for Chelsea youth team is better equipped, I happen to disagree. That is my opinion
To be clear they hoover the academy structure up with £££ that is why they have been given a transfer ban.
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Agree with Sid here. If Bow was letting Albie out on loan, and I’m not saying that isn’t the right thing to do, and replacing him with say Glen Whelan then you can see the sense in that but instead we are saying we can replace him with another youngster who hasn’t played a single moment of first team football but everyone is wetting themselves because he is a Chelsea player and won an award there.
Sid watches a hell of a lot of youth team football so I’m inclined to listen to his views seriously on this.2
