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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • Just how lucky was Duchatelet to end up with Bowyer, Jackson, Gallen and Marshall ? 
    Nobody else left in the building.
  • Ffs, just watched 20 mins worth of Jonson Clarke-Harris videos
    Fcuk that.
    I'm watching pornhub 
    Try x-hamster Rambo, they have more categories...............so I'm told.
  • Doing some viewing on the RTG boards after their Jason Pearce link, quite hilarious opinions on him. Some seem to not realise he was the player that just beat them at Wembley. 

    While I was on there though I stumbled across an interesting thread on players they should go for and saw these charts, now I know stats aren't everything, but judging by the charts are our centre backs good enough for the step up? From what I can read into it Jason Pearce is our best centre back. Now I know stats don't mean much sometimes, we still got promoted and players with good stats like Tafazolli, Clarke and Tilt didn't. But I wonder if we are looking into bringing in another solid centre back.

    There was also a striker chart and it looks to me like Eaves is very much the striker to go for, now I don't know how accurate this is but one Mackem on there has said his wage demand is 2k. Now I'm not sure how he would know that or if it's even true but if it is then surely we can offer him something. 

    Anyway images below, yes I am not coping well in the off season already and yes I probably need to get a different hobby other than browsing other teams forums and smashing fm.


    Wouldn't trust that with a barge poke. Just a casual glance & 90& of the defenders names mean nothing to me, but Bauer only about par with Michael Turner  ??? Behave. 
    I know but it's still interesting. According to that graph Naby is pretty average, Pearce is good in the air and Bauer is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I just wonder could we do better. 
    If we had a transfer budget that was higher than the price of a Mars bar then yes.
  • Doing some viewing on the RTG boards after their Jason Pearce link, quite hilarious opinions on him. Some seem to not realise he was the player that just beat them at Wembley. 

    While I was on there though I stumbled across an interesting thread on players they should go for and saw these charts, now I know stats aren't everything, but judging by the charts are our centre backs good enough for the step up? From what I can read into it Jason Pearce is our best centre back. Now I know stats don't mean much sometimes, we still got promoted and players with good stats like Tafazolli, Clarke and Tilt didn't. But I wonder if we are looking into bringing in another solid centre back.

    There was also a striker chart and it looks to me like Eaves is very much the striker to go for, now I don't know how accurate this is but one Mackem on there has said his wage demand is 2k. Now I'm not sure how he would know that or if it's even true but if it is then surely we can offer him something. 

    Anyway images below, yes I am not coping well in the off season already and yes I probably need to get a different hobby other than browsing other teams forums and smashing fm.


    Wouldn't trust that with a barge poke. Just a casual glance & 90& of the defenders names mean nothing to me, but Bauer only about par with Michael Turner  ??? Behave. 
    I know but it's still interesting. According to that graph Naby is pretty average, Pearce is good in the air and Bauer is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I just wonder could we do better. 
    If we had a transfer budget that was higher than the price of a Mars bar then yes.
    A handful of those defenders that are statistically better than Naby would be available on frees
  • edited June 2019
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Doing some viewing on the RTG boards after their Jason Pearce link, quite hilarious opinions on him. Some seem to not realise he was the player that just beat them at Wembley. 

    While I was on there though I stumbled across an interesting thread on players they should go for and saw these charts, now I know stats aren't everything, but judging by the charts are our centre backs good enough for the step up? From what I can read into it Jason Pearce is our best centre back. Now I know stats don't mean much sometimes, we still got promoted and players with good stats like Tafazolli, Clarke and Tilt didn't. But I wonder if we are looking into bringing in another solid centre back.

    There was also a striker chart and it looks to me like Eaves is very much the striker to go for, now I don't know how accurate this is but one Mackem on there has said his wage demand is 2k. Now I'm not sure how he would know that or if it's even true but if it is then surely we can offer him something. 

    Anyway images below, yes I am not coping well in the off season already and yes I probably need to get a different hobby other than browsing other teams forums and smashing fm.


    Wouldn't trust that with a barge poke. Just a casual glance & 90& of the defenders names mean nothing to me, but Bauer only about par with Michael Turner  ??? Behave. 
    I know but it's still interesting. According to that graph Naby is pretty average, Pearce is good in the air and Bauer is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I just wonder could we do better. 
    This reminds me of an very intresting piece I read about 15 years ago.  The, very similar to this set, stats rated 3 of England's center halves in the following order.  1st Sol Campbell, 2nd Terry 3rd Rio.  Very similar to how its rated Pearce, BFG and Sarr. 

    What the artical went on to delevop was the idea that it was completely misleading.  It didn't take into account the amount of times Campbell got caught on the ball and won it back, was out of position so had to make a challenge, got beaten to the ball then won it etc.  Its conclusion was that Rio was the best because he had to make far less challenges because he gave the ball away far less and was quicker to the ball.  Also that Terry wasn't quite as good as Rio but better than Campbell for the same reasons.

    I would suggest that this is the same with our 3 currently.  Pearce is brilliant in a challenge, but has to make more than the other 2.
    It's a good point. You have to factor in I guess a players role and how well the team perform in front of him. The only reason why I have mentioned this is cause he was very shaky against Donny at the Valley and obviously at Wembley needed to be hooked. When you look at Naby he is a unit, not a slouch and has a bit about him but I think mentally he suffers. Imagine Naby with let's say Pearce's mindset, would be a much better player. It's just food for thought. Should we be looking at one of those performers in a worse team to strengthen or can Naby settle down similar to Bauer.

    I also understand how well Naby played when Pearce was out but one thing I know about our fans for sure is that we are very generous quickly towards a player. I'll never forget the hype for Bikey and Johnson. We were making out like Johnson was a warrior and I remember a lot of us were not bothered for Morrison to go cause we thought we had better. Look how that turned out. I think even I at the time wasn't bothered about Morrison leaving 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Doing some viewing on the RTG boards after their Jason Pearce link, quite hilarious opinions on him. Some seem to not realise he was the player that just beat them at Wembley. 

    While I was on there though I stumbled across an interesting thread on players they should go for and saw these charts, now I know stats aren't everything, but judging by the charts are our centre backs good enough for the step up? From what I can read into it Jason Pearce is our best centre back. Now I know stats don't mean much sometimes, we still got promoted and players with good stats like Tafazolli, Clarke and Tilt didn't. But I wonder if we are looking into bringing in another solid centre back.

    There was also a striker chart and it looks to me like Eaves is very much the striker to go for, now I don't know how accurate this is but one Mackem on there has said his wage demand is 2k. Now I'm not sure how he would know that or if it's even true but if it is then surely we can offer him something. 

    Anyway images below, yes I am not coping well in the off season already and yes I probably need to get a different hobby other than browsing other teams forums and smashing fm.


    Wouldn't trust that with a barge poke. Just a casual glance & 90& of the defenders names mean nothing to me, but Bauer only about par with Michael Turner  ??? Behave. 
    I know but it's still interesting. According to that graph Naby is pretty average, Pearce is good in the air and Bauer is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I just wonder could we do better. 
    This reminds me of an very intresting piece I read about 15 years ago.  The, very similar to this set, stats rated 3 of England's center halves in the following order.  1st Sol Campbell, 2nd Terry 3rd Rio.  Very similar to how its rated Pearce, BFG and Sarr. 

    What the artical went on to delevop was the idea that it was completely misleading.  It didn't take into account the amount of times Campbell g8got caught on the ball and won it back, was out of position so had to make a challenge, got beaten to the ball then won it etc.  Its conclusion was that Rio was the best because he had to make far less challenges because he gave the ball away far less and was quicker to the ball.  Also that Terry wasn't quite as good as Rio but better than Campbell for the same reasons.

    I would suggest that this is the same with our 3 currently.  Pearce is brilliant in a challenge, but has to make more than the other 2.
    It's a good point. You have to factor in I guess a players role and how well the team perform in front of him. The only reason why I have mentioned this is cause he was very shaky against Donny at the Valley and obviously at Wembley needed to be hooked. When you look at Naby he is a unit, not a slouch and has a bit about him but I think mentally he suffers. Imagine Naby with let's say Pearce's mindset, would be a much better player. It's just food for thought. Should we be looking at one of those performers in a worse team to strengthen or can Naby settle down similar to Bauer.

    I also understand how well Naby played when Pearce was out but one thing I know about our fans for sure is that we are very generous quickly towards a player. I'll never forget the hype for Bikey and Johnson. We were making out like Johnson was a warrior and I remember a lot of us were not bothered for Morrison to go cause we thought we had better. Look how that turned out. I think even I at the time wasn't bothered about Morrison leaving 
    You also have to think who your playing against, Marquis and Wyke would probably suit Pearce better than say a Taylor or Grant. 
  • Should this be on a separate thread ? This is for transfer rumours.
  • Should this be on a separate thread ? This is for transfer rumours.
    It’s a ‘transfer out of the club’ discussion so leave it here. 
  • Dick Plum on ITTV has mentioned Nick Blackman Derby and Leroy Fer Swansea 
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  • Fer will be on big wages
  • Quite literally a 0% chance we end up with either of them, less than 0 for Fer
  • Having now watched both Blackman and Fer I can confirm that neither will be signing. Pity though.

    https://youtu.be/QNTAYS4bOS8
  • Blackman sounds more likely than Fer, based on their history and likely current wages!
  • Blackman was the striker I was told we were interested in. 

    We won't be paying for a fee for him and Derby wanted one (no idea how much). 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Doing some viewing on the RTG boards after their Jason Pearce link, quite hilarious opinions on him. Some seem to not realise he was the player that just beat them at Wembley. 

    While I was on there though I stumbled across an interesting thread on players they should go for and saw these charts, now I know stats aren't everything, but judging by the charts are our centre backs good enough for the step up? From what I can read into it Jason Pearce is our best centre back. Now I know stats don't mean much sometimes, we still got promoted and players with good stats like Tafazolli, Clarke and Tilt didn't. But I wonder if we are looking into bringing in another solid centre back.

    There was also a striker chart and it looks to me like Eaves is very much the striker to go for, now I don't know how accurate this is but one Mackem on there has said his wage demand is 2k. Now I'm not sure how he would know that or if it's even true but if it is then surely we can offer him something. 

    Anyway images below, yes I am not coping well in the off season already and yes I probably need to get a different hobby other than browsing other teams forums and smashing fm.


    Wouldn't trust that with a barge poke. Just a casual glance & 90& of the defenders names mean nothing to me, but Bauer only about par with Michael Turner  ??? Behave. 
    I know but it's still interesting. According to that graph Naby is pretty average, Pearce is good in the air and Bauer is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I just wonder could we do better. 
    This reminds me of an very intresting piece I read about 15 years ago.  The, very similar to this set, stats rated 3 of England's center halves in the following order.  1st Sol Campbell, 2nd Terry 3rd Rio.  Very similar to how its rated Pearce, BFG and Sarr. 

    What the artical went on to delevop was the idea that it was completely misleading.  It didn't take into account the amount of times Campbell got caught on the ball and won it back, was out of position so had to make a challenge, got beaten to the ball then won it etc.  Its conclusion was that Rio was the best because he had to make far less challenges because he gave the ball away far less and was quicker to the ball.  Also that Terry wasn't quite as good as Rio but better than Campbell for the same reasons.

    I would suggest that this is the same with our 3 currently.  Pearce is brilliant in a challenge, but has to make more than the other 2.
    It's a good point. You have to factor in I guess a players role and how well the team perform in front of him. The only reason why I have mentioned this is cause he was very shaky against Donny at the Valley and obviously at Wembley needed to be hooked. When you look at Naby he is a unit, not a slouch and has a bit about him but I think mentally he suffers. Imagine Naby with let's say Pearce's mindset, would be a much better player. It's just food for thought. Should we be looking at one of those performers in a worse team to strengthen or can Naby settle down similar to Bauer.

    I also understand how well Naby played when Pearce was out but one thing I know about our fans for sure is that we are very generous quickly towards a player. I'll never forget the hype for Bikey and Johnson. We were making out like Johnson was a warrior and I remember a lot of us were not bothered for Morrison to go cause we thought we had better. Look how that turned out. I think even I at the time wasn't bothered about Morrison leaving 
    Really don't think that was true of Sarr!
  • Both out of contract. Blackman is in Spain and might be affordable. Out of favour at Derby so will be on the move somewhere...

    Fer is likely on a LARGE salary and unattainable. Linked to Villa I believe. 
  • Just putting two names out there. 

    Would Liam Kinsella be good enough? He is out of contract at Walsall. Or am I just being nostalgic. 

    Liam Bridcutt also seems out of favour at Forest. He has a year left on his contract though  
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  • Ok I'm a doughnut and had it in my head as Jamal Blackman which made no sense to get in a goalie especially not someone like him to play back up so my bad. 

    Would still say no chance on Fer though, he will have better offers 
  • Blackman certainly has pace, he was on pretty big wages at Derby though.
  • edited June 2019
    Gillis said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Doing some viewing on the RTG boards after their Jason Pearce link, quite hilarious opinions on him. Some seem to not realise he was the player that just beat them at Wembley. 

    While I was on there though I stumbled across an interesting thread on players they should go for and saw these charts, now I know stats aren't everything, but judging by the charts are our centre backs good enough for the step up? From what I can read into it Jason Pearce is our best centre back. Now I know stats don't mean much sometimes, we still got promoted and players with good stats like Tafazolli, Clarke and Tilt didn't. But I wonder if we are looking into bringing in another solid centre back.

    There was also a striker chart and it looks to me like Eaves is very much the striker to go for, now I don't know how accurate this is but one Mackem on there has said his wage demand is 2k. Now I'm not sure how he would know that or if it's even true but if it is then surely we can offer him something. 

    Anyway images below, yes I am not coping well in the off season already and yes I probably need to get a different hobby other than browsing other teams forums and smashing fm.


    Wouldn't trust that with a barge poke. Just a casual glance & 90& of the defenders names mean nothing to me, but Bauer only about par with Michael Turner  ??? Behave. 
    I know but it's still interesting. According to that graph Naby is pretty average, Pearce is good in the air and Bauer is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I just wonder could we do better. 
    This reminds me of an very intresting piece I read about 15 years ago.  The, very similar to this set, stats rated 3 of England's center halves in the following order.  1st Sol Campbell, 2nd Terry 3rd Rio.  Very similar to how its rated Pearce, BFG and Sarr. 

    What the artical went on to delevop was the idea that it was completely misleading.  It didn't take into account the amount of times Campbell got caught on the ball and won it back, was out of position so had to make a challenge, got beaten to the ball then won it etc.  Its conclusion was that Rio was the best because he had to make far less challenges because he gave the ball away far less and was quicker to the ball.  Also that Terry wasn't quite as good as Rio but better than Campbell for the same reasons.

    I would suggest that this is the same with our 3 currently.  Pearce is brilliant in a challenge, but has to make more than the other 2.
    It's a good point. You have to factor in I guess a players role and how well the team perform in front of him. The only reason why I have mentioned this is cause he was very shaky against Donny at the Valley and obviously at Wembley needed to be hooked. When you look at Naby he is a unit, not a slouch and has a bit about him but I think mentally he suffers. Imagine Naby with let's say Pearce's mindset, would be a much better player. It's just food for thought. Should we be looking at one of those performers in a worse team to strengthen or can Naby settle down similar to Bauer.

    I also understand how well Naby played when Pearce was out but one thing I know about our fans for sure is that we are very generous quickly towards a player. I'll never forget the hype for Bikey and Johnson. We were making out like Johnson was a warrior and I remember a lot of us were not bothered for Morrison to go cause we thought we had better. Look how that turned out. I think even I at the time wasn't bothered about Morrison leaving 
    Really don't think that was true of Sarr!
    Cause he was literally awful. Anyone that puts in half a shift for us gets a lot of praise quickly. Johnson on his debut put in a half decent shift and damaged his rib if I remember right and we made out like he was a war hero. Vetokele after 5 good performances we thought Chelsea would take him. Loads of stuff like that. Then we thought we had outgrown Morrison because TBH and Bikey formed a partnership. Next season we are relegated, Bikey and TBH are gone (Bikey dreadful before he left) and Morro is captain of Birmingham and is rated very high among their fans.

  • Blackman and fer go against the mantra laid out by Roland in his statement that he wants young players with potential sell on value, but then again they are not costing a fee so could be some truth in it. In my opinion If we hold on to the best players wr currently have and add a mixture of experienced championship players on a free, a few gambles on prospects from the division below with a soupcon of decent loans and we might have half a chance.
  • Not in a million years with either Blackman or Fer be signing for us. It’s a rumour made up by some virgin in his bedroom on Twitter. Not even worth thinking about
  • Swisdom said:
    Both out of contract. Blackman is in Spain and might be affordable. Out of favour at Derby so will be on the move somewhere...

    Fer is likely on a LARGE salary and unattainable. Linked to Villa I believe. 
    Blackman isn’t out of contract, Derby want a fee. 
  • edited June 2019
    I am not really big on paying a fee for a 29-year old striker who was sent on loan in 2018-19 away from the very division we are hoping to survive in. Honestly, not sure I would want him on a free, especially if Eaves and a couple of others discussed on this thread are available.
  • Bowyer has said he wants three strikers in. Eaves if he signs is a punt in many respects. Untried in The Championship and only two prolific seasons behind him. If Blackman is on our radar then I trust LB and SG to have it right yet again. I’m guessing that as Blackman is not wanted at Derby and has been out on loan at Sporting Gijon that he might well be a loan target.
  • If I remember him rightly then Blackman probably wouldnt be a bad replacement for Karlan Grant
  • edited June 2019
    From his video clips he’s certainly mobile.
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