My understanding is that Lyle was less than impressed with how Sunderland conducted the face to face meeting. He got the impression that they thought that he (LT) would be awed by it all and agree to everything. He wasn’t and didn’t.
I don’t know the details but I suspect they would have been very similar offers. I am certain a journeyman lower league striker would not have turned down a significantly better financial deal at a massive club just to stay South.
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
I doubt (don't know) we can't compete with most L1 clubs. It's more likely to be the same budget ie the worst in the Championship, but better than the vast majority of L1.
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
Steve Gallen said (I think at the FF he attended) that in the event of not being promoted our shopping pool was in L2 / free transfers. If the rumours are true I suspect that promotion hasn't made the difference to the shopping list that some people expected.
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
Steve Gallen said (I think at the FF he attended) that in the event of not being promoted our shopping pool was in L2 / free transfers. If the rumours are true I suspect that promotion hasn't made the difference to the shopping list that some people expected.
There is nothing wrong with that though if you scoop up the right players, Jayden Stockley, Christian Doidge and James Norwood would have all been more than welcome here. It's all about finding the ones who are too good for that league and can step up, like Mo Eisa for the Posh.
What is worrying me is that we can't even seem to scoop up free agents who were playing at much smaller clubs than us last season allegedly. How is that even possible
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
Steve Gallen said (I think at the FF he attended) that in the event of not being promoted our shopping pool was in L2 / free transfers. If the rumours are true I suspect that promotion hasn't made the difference to the shopping list that some people expected.
There is nothing wrong with that though if you scoop up the right players, Jayden Stockley, Christian Doidge and James Norwood would have all been more than welcome here. It's all about finding the ones who are too good for that league and can step up, like Mo Eisa for the Posh.
What is worrying me is that we can't even seem to scoop up free agents who were playing at much smaller clubs than us last season allegedly. How is that even possible
Not the fact we won’t be able to offer League 1 players more money they are on, but other clubs will be able to offer more.
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
Steve Gallen said (I think at the FF he attended) that in the event of not being promoted our shopping pool was in L2 / free transfers. If the rumours are true I suspect that promotion hasn't made the difference to the shopping list that some people expected.
There is nothing wrong with that though if you scoop up the right players, Jayden Stockley, Christian Doidge and James Norwood would have all been more than welcome here. It's all about finding the ones who are too good for that league and can step up, like Mo Eisa for the Posh.
What is worrying me is that we can't even seem to scoop up free agents who were playing at much smaller clubs than us last season allegedly. How is that even possible
To be slightly more positive, it's not as if we've lost any of our alleged targets yet. Indeed the level of transfer business is still pretty small at the moment
I think Bowyer wants to stay, and part of me hopes that a sale is going through and he is waiting on a new ownership to take him on.
BUT if he gets offered a position whilst still in limbo I would not blame him if was to leave.
He wants to stay but it sounds like he is getting frustrated with the budget, signings etc. I would be gutted if he goes. From what I'm hearing we can't compete with many League One clubs let alone Champ.
How did our budget compare with League 1 clubs last season?
Our budget was approx double the league one average. There should be no expectation it will match someone like Sunderland who are still receiving parachute payments
Doesn’t make the achievement of promotion as great as i first thought , prolly includes the high salaries of Sarr and Vetokele there was i thinking everyone signed for the love of our club and not for the wages we offered them
How have we gone from roughly double the league one average budget to not being able to compete with most league one clubs this year? It's utterly nuts.
Steve Gallen said (I think at the FF he attended) that in the event of not being promoted our shopping pool was in L2 / free transfers. If the rumours are true I suspect that promotion hasn't made the difference to the shopping list that some people expected.
There is nothing wrong with that though if you scoop up the right players, Jayden Stockley, Christian Doidge and James Norwood would have all been more than welcome here. It's all about finding the ones who are too good for that league and can step up, like Mo Eisa for the Posh.
What is worrying me is that we can't even seem to scoop up free agents who were playing at much smaller clubs than us last season allegedly. How is that even possible
Not the fact we won’t be able to offer League 1 players more money they are on, but other clubs will be able to offer more.
That is what I am referring to, we can't seem to get these free agents who would fit in potentially because our contracts are shit, it's a joke.
It’s always a game of cat and mouse at this stage of the season. Agents will be urging players to wait as long as they dare to see if better offers come along. Clubs will have various targets and priorities and budget to jiggle.
It it would be great to get in some quality players with Championship experience but in the main we were always going to be in the better L1 players market just like under Powell’s promotion. I’m convinced our budget is shit but I do trust in Gallen and Bowyer. I also don’t think we should underestimate Bowyers pulling power. Remarkable comment given his inexperience.
The biggest factor next next season will be the ability of Bowyer and Jackson to instil that great togetherness and camaraderie we enjoyed last season. That and to get more than the sum of its parts out of the team. I have every confidence they can do both.
Its going to be very tough no doubt but as but as long as we have LB I really think we can survive.
A new ownership before the window closing looks unlikely but we can still hope. I’m still confident that Bowyer will be picking the team for the opening fixture.
Graham Carey has rejected Plymouth’s contract offer. Worth a look or not good enough for the Championship?
Slightly wary of signing players who've played in a relegated L1 side, when we were promoted (as opposed to if we were still in L1). Can Carey and Lameiras be that good if their team was relegated? Even if they are good individually, did they help create other weaknesses in the team as a whole?
Graham Carey has rejected Plymouth’s contract offer. Worth a look or not good enough for the Championship?
Slightly wary of signing players who've played in a relegated L1 side, when we were promoted (as opposed to if we were still in L1). Can Carey and Lameiras be that good if their team was relegated? Even if they are good individually, did they help create other weaknesses in the team as a whole?
Fact Plymouth had the third worst defence in the Division (only Rochdale and Scunthorpe conceded more) probably had something to do with their relegation
Scored more goals than any of the teams from 14th down
Graham Carey has rejected Plymouth’s contract offer. Worth a look or not good enough for the Championship?
Slightly wary of signing players who've played in a relegated L1 side, when we were promoted (as opposed to if we were still in L1). Can Carey and Lameiras be that good if their team was relegated? Even if they are good individually, did they help create other weaknesses in the team as a whole?
Didn't work out well for Gudmundsson, Pope or Lookman. Bet they are well gutted they left.
Thought I would share this, will attach image and link the thread. Two people on the Graham Carey thread on Pasoti linking us with Ruben Lameiras. The owner of the website seems convinced we are getting him, twice now he has said it. The mention of us was when another forum user questioned if he was off to Swansea
This is wonderful isnt it! 3 ish weeks ago we was celebrating and on a high and now..............oh doom and gloom coz Roland strikes again!! Sell the dam club!!!
According to Sky Sports West Ham have bid accepted for a midfielder from a spanish club. Also they have a target of 5 midfielders. No doubt Josh will be pleased...
According to Sky Sports West Ham have bid accepted for a midfielder from a spanish club. Also they have a target of 5 midfielders. No doubt Josh will be pleased...
They also will have Jack Wilshere back this coming season too. Albeit probably not for long until he gets injured again but with bringing in a midfielder from Villarreal who is a full Spanish international, and most likely will sign at least another one or two on top, you have got to wonder where Cullen is going to force himself into the squad.
Could be good news for us. But we must sort out our own issues first, that is for sure. Long summer ahead, unfortunately.
Thought that was inevitable at West Ham. They are no longer about bringing through the youth and I firmly expect Cullen to go out on loan again at some point this coming season.
According to Sky Sports West Ham have bid accepted for a midfielder from a spanish club. Also they have a target of 5 midfielders. No doubt Josh will be pleased...
They also will have Jack Wilshere back this coming season too. Albeit probably not for long until he gets injured again but with bringing in a midfielder from Villarreal who is a full Spanish international, and most likely will sign at least another one or two on top, you have got to wonder where Cullen is going to force himself into the squad.
Could be good news for us. But we must sort out our own issues first, that is for sure. Long summer ahead, unfortunately.
That being the case I can see West Ham trying to get a fee for Cullen rather than loan out again. If that’s the case then we are out of the equation.
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It's more likely to be the same budget ie the worst in the Championship, but better than the vast majority of L1.
What is worrying me is that we can't even seem to scoop up free agents who were playing at much smaller clubs than us last season allegedly. How is that even possible
there was i thinking everyone signed for the love of our club and not for the wages we offered them
It it would be great to get in some quality players with Championship experience but in the main we were always going to be in the better L1 players market just like under Powell’s promotion. I’m convinced our budget is shit but I do trust in Gallen and Bowyer. I also don’t think we should underestimate Bowyers pulling power. Remarkable comment given his inexperience.
The biggest factor next next season will be the ability of Bowyer and Jackson to instil that great togetherness and camaraderie we enjoyed last season. That and to get more than the sum of its parts out of the team. I have every confidence they can do both.
Its going to be very tough no doubt but as but as long as we have LB I really think we can survive.
A new ownership before the window closing looks unlikely but we can still hope. I’m still confident that Bowyer will be picking the team for the opening fixture.
Scored more goals than any of the teams from 14th down
Didn't work out well for Gudmundsson, Pope or Lookman. Bet they are well gutted they left.
https://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=107889&start=143
Could be good news for us. But we must sort out our own issues first, that is for sure. Long summer ahead, unfortunately.