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ICC Cricket World Cup 2019

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    Maybe, but you'd bring Ali back in obviously, as he has been bowling well
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,966
    Amused by cricinfo’s reporting on the streaker:
    ”...A distant pimply dot of wobbly human can be seen cavorting across the grass as the stewards give chase... stark naked... just a green wig. He has had a chat with Latham and Santner. He’s done a cartwheel now on the square... Scenes!”
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,966
    That 1 run 35th over just added 0.6 to the required run rate.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Ali is a walking disaster when the going gets tough ,and they aint gonna be easy from now on. TBH he should be sent back to Worcester now.
    Hes in the squad as an all-rounder which he clearly isnt in this tourno , and you need players with backbone from now on. Just a shame we have no batters
    able to come in to replace him.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Ali is a walking disaster when the going gets tough ,and they aint gonna be easy from now on. TBH he should be sent back to Worcester now.
    Hes in the squad as an all-rounder which he clearly isnt in this tourno , and you need players with backbone from now on. Just a shame we have no batters
    able to come in to replace him.

    Moeen, is not in good form at the moment with the bat I think he has been bowling okay and this is not the first time you have commented on his backbone, I think he has been excellent for England in all forms of the game.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    Moeen's often at his best when the usual sorts come out and slag him off. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play in the semis or final, ropey batting form or otherwise
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,670
    Latham gone.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,027
    edited July 2019
    Good old Plunkett
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    Unless you genuinely think Liam Dawson's popgun SLA is our best spin option (hint: it isn't)
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,085
    Unless the impossible happens, England will have beaten two of the other semi finalists in their last two games, and beaten them well. Surely that has some phycological impact. 

    Can still see Australia walk it mind

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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2019
    We already have 5 bowlers, Archer,Wood,Plunkett,Stokes,Rashid or Curran - there is no need to replace Ali with a bowler, so the sensible option would have been  to bolster the batting, but for some strange reason, the selectors seem to have left us a batter short in reserve.
    If i was in the England team, you would think it would be natural to want scrappers in the team rather than the wet fish of Ali - wouldnt you?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,878
    Leuth said:
    Unless you genuinely think Liam Dawson's popgun SLA is our best spin option (hint: it isn't)
    To be fair our spin options are pretty thin.
    Unlike our pace attack we have loads to choose from. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    I want a good spinner. Rashid is not in good form - I agree - which leaves Ali. Who, as a bonus, can bat. Sometimes ;)
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Spinners have done eff all in this tourno, Rashid,Khan,Kuldeep,Santner,Zampa have all been generally spanked. The only exception may be Shakib.

    Go with 5 quicks with variation. The only thing about England is the lack of a leftie for variation.

    Ali can go home in my opinion, and unfortnately Rashid has his shoulder problem. We have no real option re another batter, so maybe the only other thing is to bring in Curran at 8, or maybe Vince out of the spotlight at 6-7.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    edited July 2019
    So you'd drop our main spin option for a sixth fast bowler or James Vince? I'm glad you don't pick the side
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    And 'Ali can go home' is plain nonsense. Why would you send one of your squad members home for being in streaky batting form? Unless you just didn't like him for some reason (can't think what that might be)
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Leuth said:
    So you'd drop our main spin option for a sixth fast bowler or James Vince? I'm glad you don't pick the side
    Try to read my comments again.

    Our 'main' spin option is clearly not very good when the pressure is on.
    Spinners are not performing in this tourno.
    We already 5 (FIVE) bowlers in Wood,Archer,Stokes,Woakes and Rashid or Curran (maybe).
    The only other batting option is Vince (selector decision).

    I'm glad im not your optician.



  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    We're playing at Edgbaston next, which is giving assistance to the spinners, but whatever
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Leuth said:
    We're playing at Edgbaston next, which is giving assistance to the spinners, but whatever


    YS Chahal
    10.008808.8020

    K Yadav10.007217.20

    Yeah, Indias spinners figures last at Edgbaston show that.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,232
    Even Vince's mum doesn't want him to play :smile:

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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Even Vince's mum doesn't want him to play :smile:
    The selectors have clearly ballsed up here, we have Ali,Curran and Dawson all not playing , but the only batting option is Vince.
    Doesnt make any sense, especially when we have been playing with six bowlers , plus Root in every game, yet we have no option to bring in a batter.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,262
    Vince should be nowhere near the team now.

    We’ve won the last two games. Let’s stick with this side until the end now, whichever way it goes.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,451
    Batting averages of the current England squad at Edgbaston in ODIs in the last five years. 

    Bairstow 111.00 at 101.83 SR
    Stokes      95.50 at 107.30 
    Rashid      69.00 at 138.00 
    Moeen      67.00 at 134.00 
    Buttler      63.00 at 134.04 
    Roy           60.66 at 117.41 
    Root         51.75 at   91.18 
    Morgan     42.50 at   87.62
    Woakes       8.50 at   73.91 



  • We've effectively just won 2 knock out games, confidence is high, 8 days to rest before the next game. Looking forward to it.

    Another side batting first wins.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    Not saying Denly is necessarily the answer, but the issue with Rashid's shoulder was one of the reasons they went from a top order batter who can bowl spin (Denly) to a spinner who can bat (Dawson) to cover for Rashid, which has left our squad looking slightly unbalanced to me
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,262
    Looking like Aus v NZ and Eng v Ind as per a previous post, unless SA can spring a surprise on the Aussies.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,232
    Vince should be nowhere near the team now.

    We’ve won the last two games. Let’s stick with this side until the end now, whichever way it goes.
    Agreed, it's what I think. 
    No idea, why anyone would want to change it.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,451
    Vince should be nowhere near the team now.

    We’ve won the last two games. Let’s stick with this side until the end now, whichever way it goes.
    Agreed, it's what I think. 
    No idea, why anyone would want to change it.
    The only change they should consider is whether to bring in another spin bowler, as the next game is at Edgbaston.  That would obviously be Moeen Ali, but it would mean dropping one of Archer, Wood, Woakes, Stokes, and Plunkett.  

    Realistically, they're not going to drop Woakes or Archer.  And dropping Stokes would mean losing the insurance of his runs, should the top order fail.  So that means choosing two out of Moeen, Wood and Plunkett.  No combination of two out of those three would significantly weaken the team. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,878
    Chizz said:
    Vince should be nowhere near the team now.

    We’ve won the last two games. Let’s stick with this side until the end now, whichever way it goes.
    Agreed, it's what I think. 
    No idea, why anyone would want to change it.
    The only change they should consider is whether to bring in another spin bowler, as the next game is at Edgbaston.  That would obviously be Moeen Ali, but it would mean dropping one of Archer, Wood, Woakes, Stokes, and Plunkett.  

    Realistically, they're not going to drop Woakes or Archer.  And dropping Stokes would mean losing the insurance of his runs, should the top order fail.  So that means choosing two out of Moeen, Wood and Plunkett.  No combination of two out of those three would significantly weaken the team. 
    Plunkett has to play