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Conor Gallagher - Going to Athletico (p81)
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Gutted at this news, but this is the risk with loans. If he hadn't played well for us, he would have stayed, we are both a victim of his success and the recipients of it.
Also, if we had a player playing that well out on loan from us, we'd recall them (doesn't make it any easier though) : (0 -
Why would you say Conor was 100 times better than Cullen?DoctorCharlton said:
Conor is 100 times better than Cullen.FishCostaFortune said:
I am not underplaying Conor's ability because he was fantastic. But when everyone is fit, Cullen is our best and most influential player.DoctorCharlton said:We've just lost our best player, to say I am absolutely gutted would be an understatement.0 -
Don't we all want players who can not only "rattle" the opposition but can play too? Football fans are very fickle but better on our side than the opposition has always been favoured.ValleyGary said:Be interesting to see how Derby fans take to him if he went there. He rattled them a couple of weeks ago.
Wonder if Burnley are in for him and Chelsea think he's got the opportunity to step up and learn more.0 -
I don't think Conor would have initiated it, Chelsea have probably had a lot of interest and it makes sense for them even if it is a dick move, to put him in a better footballing team which we have stopped being since Cullen/Jonny Williams have gone down injured, but I think if he really pushed to stay they surely would have listened and kept him here.1
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Ffffs can we just stop being such a shit outfit where everything is shit
Lets sign some players up that are decent and ours and if someone wants em they pay up big
sorry kids yes our best player who we had a song for is gone , oh lyle taylor , no not that one just yet , connor fucking gallagher
sick of this shitness
edit: tantrum over till lyle goes
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Unfortunately not, I don't get told much and often (wish I did)DoctorCharlton said:
You got any inside news on Maddison?SamE7 said:
As I said yesterday (first), Swansea. I was told that at about 8pm. I will be very surprised if it ends up being wrongThe Red Robin said:
I imagine they have at least one club lined up. Unless it's a Premier League club I really don't see the point. He's settled in well, has clearly developed and they're going to unsettle him mid-season. Typical Chelsea.Chunes said:Bloody hell. They've just straight-up recalled him without even having another loan to send him to??
Awful news. Another midfielder down now. Not easy to replace. We're in a relegation battle with no players.1 -
Looks like thats that then.palarsehater said:
On sky sports they were at chelsea’s training ground in cobham - sorry chaps
Can only imagine our injury crisis has played a part and Chelsea not happy with Conor playing with our u23 midfield the last few months.
Makelele was down at the club in October i believe and seemed over the moon with Conor's development back then.1 -
charltonnick said:That's the down side of the loan system , they are put in the shop window. I hope it had nothing to do with him having to play 3 games in the space of 5 or 6 days during the Christmas period. He needed a rest but due to the injuries he couldn't be. We would not have got promoted last season without the loan players so we have have done well out of the system.
It's the downside of having a recall clause in a loan contract.0 -
Na, not 'much better' at all.DoctorCharlton said:FishCostaFortune said:
I am not underplaying Conor's ability because he was fantastic. But when everyone is fit, Cullen is our best and most influential player.DoctorCharlton said:We've just lost our best player, to say I am absolutely gutted would be an understatement.Conor is 100 times better than Cullen.
Edit: ok maybe not 100x, but much better. Offers so much more going forward than Cullen.
Cullen can control a game when he plays well. Gallagher is fantastic but he's hundred miles an hour. Cullen has a proper football brain.7 -
Absolutely amazed by this.
Playing week in week out at a club where only 2 weeks ago Chelsea said they were really happy with the situation..............and now they've recalled him. Utter c*nts.19 -
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Edited my post, but honestly anybody that believes Cullen is a better player than Gallagher in my opinion is deluded.FishCostaFortune said:
Why would you say Conor was 100 times better than Cullen?DoctorCharlton said:
Conor is 100 times better than Cullen.FishCostaFortune said:
I am not underplaying Conor's ability because he was fantastic. But when everyone is fit, Cullen is our best and most influential player.DoctorCharlton said:We've just lost our best player, to say I am absolutely gutted would be an understatement.
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Sage said:Chelsea are fucking wankers.
Wherever he goes is a joke, think about the player, his happiness, development and career. Doesn’t matter who ‘owns’ the player, it’s their career and going to Swansea is not going to benefit him any more than being here.
God, I hope we get in someone with good quality and finish above Swansea this season and Chelsea miss out on Europe. Even if that’s unlikely.Sad to say it, but now its happened you have to consider the fact the player is clearly open and agreeing to whatever the next move is. He was placed here for a year, he's been doing well, If he really was happy wanting to see the season out here, i've absolutely no doubt they would have left him here.
Doubt we'll ever get the full story behind this one.
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My eyesight is shit but I wouldn't want to identify that picture as him in a line out and send him downpalarsehater said:
Sky sports saying he has been recalled for assessment by chelsea and it is not yet confirmed that his loan deal with us is finished - his future could be decided today.0 -
Gallagher will be the better footballer no doubt.
Cullen is more important to our team right now.9 -
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It's an interesting theory. Swansea wiped the floor with us at The Valley, and on paper we are hurtling towards relegation. It's a great shame, because Gallagher has been our most creative player this season. Would Maddison be a direct replacement, or is he more defensive?MummysLittleSoldier said:Might be unpopular, but got a bad feeling Gallagher has initiated this and the Chelsea accusations bit premature.
Chelsea/Lampard happy with him being here and his progress. Has he had a little moan up because he's now playing in a pretty poor midfield with other 18/19yo getting overrun most weeks and losing games? If we didn't have the injuries and were still going like we were at the beginning with him scoring goals and being more creative, I don't know that this would be happening. He might fancy himself as wanting to play in a successful, creative team, more like the Derby loanees had last season.
Generally hope I am wrong as I want to love the guy for what he did for us in these 5 months, but something don't add up or sit right. Particularly when you factor in there is no immediate loan lined up
Far more attacking, they dont even play same position. Maddision a CAM/Left sided attacking mid
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They are different types of midfielders. Cullen is accomplished in a more holding role, while Gallagher is better going forward. Cullen makes our midfield tick, and we are a much better team when he's fit.DoctorCharlton said:FishCostaFortune said:
I am not underplaying Conor's ability because he was fantastic. But when everyone is fit, Cullen is our best and most influential player.DoctorCharlton said:We've just lost our best player, to say I am absolutely gutted would be an understatement.Conor is 100 times better than Cullen.
Edit: ok maybe not 100x, but much better. Offers so much more going forward than Cullen.
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Not what I've heard but its 100% happened. Fuck chelsea bunch of wankers. Must have short memories, not just the progress connor made, look at Jay dasilva. Wankers the lot of themMummysLittleSoldier said:Might be unpopular, but got a bad feeling Gallagher has initiated this and the Chelsea accusations bit premature.
Chelsea/Lampard happy with him being here and his progress. Has he had a little moan up because he's now playing in a pretty poor midfield with other 18/19yo getting overrun most weeks and losing games? If we didn't have the injuries and were still going like we were at the beginning with him scoring goals and being more creative, I don't know that this would be happening. He might fancy himself as wanting to play in a successful, creative team, more like the Derby loanees had last season.
Generally hope I am wrong as I want to love the guy for what he did for us in these 5 months, but something don't add up or sit right. Particularly when you factor in there is no immediate loan lined up1 -
Or exceeded where they thought he would be and want to test him at a higher level? By the sounds of the Gallen interview https://www.football.london/charlton-athletic-fc/charlton-transfer-market-arsenal-chelsea-17562561 he liked being round the placekentred2 said:
Chelsea obviously not happy with his development or feel gone as far forward as he can in this Charlton side.FishCostaFortune said:Well I hope we never loan out and develop another Chelsea youth player again. I understand Chelsea want what's best for the player, but if they have continually praised our development of Conor, and then pulled this on us, it's just not really fair on the time and resources we spent on him.0 -
He's been told a million times not to exaggerate!!FishCostaFortune said:
Why would you say Conor was 100 times better than Cullen?DoctorCharlton said:
Conor is 100 times better than Cullen.FishCostaFortune said:
I am not underplaying Conor's ability because he was fantastic. But when everyone is fit, Cullen is our best and most influential player.DoctorCharlton said:We've just lost our best player, to say I am absolutely gutted would be an understatement.1 -
What does recalling him for assessment mean?0
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He's the one at the front.oohaahmortimer said:
My eyesight is shit but I wouldn't want to identify that picture as him in a line out and send him downpalarsehater said:Sky sports saying he has been recalled for assessment by chelsea and it is not yet confirmed that his loan deal with us is finished - his future could be decided today.2 -
Pretty sure he'll do whatever Chelsea tell him to do (within reason).AFKABartram said:Sage said:Chelsea are fucking wankers.
Wherever he goes is a joke, think about the player, his happiness, development and career. Doesn’t matter who ‘owns’ the player, it’s their career and going to Swansea is not going to benefit him any more than being here.
God, I hope we get in someone with good quality and finish above Swansea this season and Chelsea miss out on Europe. Even if that’s unlikely.Sad to say it, but now its happened you have to consider the fact the player is clearly open and agreeing to whatever the next move is. He was placed here for a year, he's been doing well, If he really was happy wanting to see the season out here, i've absolutely no doubt he would have left him here.
Doubt we'll ever get the full story behind this one.
"you're leaving Charlton and we're sending you a club higher in the league" is hardly going to break his heart.2 -
Interesting that he's training at Chelsea and there's been no announcement yet from either club. I reckon at this point the loan is still on, they're just having a look at him and seeing how he's developed. There's no doubt that he has other, higher-placed options available to him, but it could be that they sit down with him, see how much he's developed and how he's now playing at a higher standard than he was when he left. They might decide that he should be given the option of playing with a team with a bit more about them, or they may see that he's learning a lot under Bowyer, including working with a bit of adversity on the pitch, and decide that his development in going very well at Charlton and send him back to us. If he trains too well they might even keep him to be around the squad. It could all change but at the moment it feels a bit less like 'Conor Gallagher has been recalled from his loan' and more like 'Conor Gallagher has been told to report to Chelsea training for assessment' and the story has switched around a bit when it's got to journalists. That's what I'm holding onto anyway. It's not over yet.
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Exactly this.charltonnick said:That's the down side of the loan system , they are put in the shop window. I hope it had nothing to do with him having to play 3 games in the space of 5 or 6 days during the Christmas period. He needed a rest but due to the injuries he couldn't be. We would not have got promoted last season without the loan players so we have have done well out of the system.0 -
Fully fit, I think Cullen was our most important player - he ran the midfield. Gallagher has more flair and scores goals, although they have dried up lately.DoctorCharlton said:
Edited my post, but honestly anybody that believes Cullen is a better player than Gallagher in my opinion is deluded.FishCostaFortune said:
Why would you say Conor was 100 times better than Cullen?DoctorCharlton said:
Conor is 100 times better than Cullen.FishCostaFortune said:
I am not underplaying Conor's ability because he was fantastic. But when everyone is fit, Cullen is our best and most influential player.DoctorCharlton said:We've just lost our best player, to say I am absolutely gutted would be an understatement.3 -
He's not an IT consultant registered with a consultancy. They don't disrupt 18yr olds unless the kid is happy to and they see valid reason.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Pretty sure he'll do whatever Chelsea tell him to do (within reason).AFKABartram said:Sage said:Chelsea are fucking wankers.
Wherever he goes is a joke, think about the player, his happiness, development and career. Doesn’t matter who ‘owns’ the player, it’s their career and going to Swansea is not going to benefit him any more than being here.
God, I hope we get in someone with good quality and finish above Swansea this season and Chelsea miss out on Europe. Even if that’s unlikely.Sad to say it, but now its happened you have to consider the fact the player is clearly open and agreeing to whatever the next move is. He was placed here for a year, he's been doing well, If he really was happy wanting to see the season out here, i've absolutely no doubt he would have left him here.
Doubt we'll ever get the full story behind this one.
"you're leaving Charlton and we're sending you a club higher in the league" is hardly going to break his heart.
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Lets see how he trains with Premier League playersChunes said:What does recalling him for assessment mean?
Looks good enough in training = Burnley or Norwich
Still lacking = Swansea or Derby0 -
Swansea did not wipe the floor with us mate at the valley.Viewfinder said:
It's an interesting theory. Swansea wiped the floor with us at The Valley, and on paper we are hurtling towards relegation. It's a great shame, because Gallagher has been our most creative player this season. Would Maddison be a direct replacement, or is he more defensive?MummysLittleSoldier said:Might be unpopular, but got a bad feeling Gallagher has initiated this and the Chelsea accusations bit premature.
Chelsea/Lampard happy with him being here and his progress. Has he had a little moan up because he's now playing in a pretty poor midfield with other 18/19yo getting overrun most weeks and losing games? If we didn't have the injuries and were still going like we were at the beginning with him scoring goals and being more creative, I don't know that this would be happening. He might fancy himself as wanting to play in a successful, creative team, more like the Derby loanees had last season.
Generally hope I am wrong as I want to love the guy for what he did for us in these 5 months, but something don't add up or sit right. Particularly when you factor in there is no immediate loan lined up3 -
Breaks down with an injury = stays at CharltonForeverAddickted said:
Lets see how he trains with Premier League playersChunes said:What does recalling him for assessment mean?
Looks good enough in training = Burnley or Norwich
Still lacking = Swansea or Derby10
